something I realized as I was watching "Clueless"

sponger
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edited May 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
As you may remember from the movie, Cher at some point learns the joy of altruism and takes up certain selfless causes.

Among those is the fictional Pismo Beach disaster relief program, of which she is named Captain.

And it suddenly occurred to me: What if she did not hold the distinct rank of "Captain"?

Let's assume for a moment that the Disaster relief effort was already adequately staffed with leadership, and thought to best utilize Cher in more of a "helper" rather than in an administrative role?

Would she have been so inclined to devote her free time to this cause?

Without the distinguishment of rank and the subsequent taking of a larger portion of the credit for the results of said effort, would there still have been an allure for her to take part in the aid of Pismo Beach residents?
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  • Hitch-Hiker
    Hitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    I think you're looking a little too deeply into this one :p
    Good movie though.
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  • orig_long red
    orig_long red Posts: 2,029
    it bothers me that in the movie she's 16, while the dude she falls for, and subsequently gets, has to be in his early twenties.
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  • sponger
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    long red wrote:
    it bothers me that in the movie she's 16, while the dude she falls for, and subsequently gets, has to be in his early twenties.


    I'm also against cradle-robbing. But, in case you're interested, I do remember Dr. Drew's and Adam Corolla's position on this subject.

    Their position is that the reason it's wrong is because guys in their 20's who are hitting on teenagers usually aren't interested in a meaningful relationship so much as they're interested in getting laid.

    They contend that teenaged girls are not emotionally ready to deal with that reality of men and relationships. Also, they say these kinds of relationships are symptomatic of absentee fathers, as these girls are dating older guys because they're looking for a father figure.

    So, if you follow Dr. Drew's and Adam Corolla's rationale, the relationship between Cher and that older guy is actually "healthy", and therefore permissible. The movie portrays their relationship as being based on a deep emotional connection, rather than on a lusty 23 year old's desire to take advantage of a naive teenager.

    If you listen to their radio show, you'll notice that when teenage girls call in to talk about their 20-something b/f's, Drew and Adam will first dissect the intricacies of the relationship before casting it down. Usually, they'll discover the existence of an absentee father or the 20-something's sex addition which has resulted in promiscuity.
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  • MyHandsBound
    MyHandsBound Posts: 698
    the mighty mighty bostones.....I saw them in NY some time ago...it was a great show:)
  • samick
    samick Posts: 373
    I don't know why people would admit to seeing that movie
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    samick wrote:
    I don't know why people would admit to seeing that movie


    LOL. I am shameless.
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  • SENROCK
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    this is a fun movie. its weird that you read so much into it! :eek:
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  • sponger
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    SENROCK! wrote:
    this is a fun movie. its weird that you read so much into it! :eek:

    It was a fun movie, but I also think it was a sign of the times. It encapsulated in many respects what had become and what still is the "Mtv" generation.

    Its message of abandoning one's preoccupation with image and substituting it with social awareness gave the movie an authentic message that overtook its entertainment value.

    It was the feminine teenager's "Fight Club." I don't doubt that there were legions of young minds that seriously found themselves relating to Cher's personal dilemma of balancing vanity with moral substance.
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  • Jeanie
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    sponger wrote:
    It was a fun movie, but I also think it was a sign of the times. It encapsulated in many respects what had become and what still is the "Mtv" generation.

    Its message of abandoning one's preoccupation with image and substituting it with social awareness gave the movie an authentic message that overtook its entertainment value.

    It was the feminine teenager's "Fight Club." I don't doubt that there were legions of young minds that seriously found themselves relating to Cher's personal dilemma of balancing vanity with moral substance.

    It's a modern Emma isn't it?
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    sponger wrote:
    It was a fun movie, but I also think it was a sign of the times. It encapsulated in many respects what had become and what still is the "Mtv" generation.

    Its message of abandoning one's preoccupation with image and substituting it with social awareness gave the movie an authentic message that overtook its entertainment value.

    It was the feminine teenager's "Fight Club." I don't doubt that there were legions of young minds that seriously found themselves relating to Cher's personal dilemma of balancing vanity with moral substance.

    well it was based on jane austen's emma, so im sure there's depth there somewhere. just a different kind of depth. :)
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  • libragirl
    libragirl Posts: 4,632
    wow..
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  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    and its weird that she falls for her step brother. wtf?

    btw - paul rudd is the f'ing man.
  • AmentsChick
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    singularity wrote:
    btw - paul rudd is the f'ing man.

    Well said. He *IS* the f'ing man!!
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  • nfanel
    nfanel Posts: 2,558
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Well said. He *IS* the f'ing man!!
    +1 more.

    i love clueless. i'm not afraid to admit it. :p
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    nfanel wrote:
    +1 more.

    i love clueless. i'm not afraid to admit it. :p
    I'm not a big fan of the movie...but I just absolutely love Paul Rudd in everything he's in...especially (i'm going to get slammed for this) his role as Phoebe's Mike on Friends...he was adorable!
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  • EvilMerlin
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    AmentsChick wrote:
    I'm not a big fan of the movie...but I just absolutely love Paul Rudd in everything he's in...especially (i'm going to get slammed for this) his role as Phoebe's Mike on Friends...he was adorable!

    Who doesn't love Paul Rudd? I have his funny or die screensaver on my comp here at work.
  • acoustic guy
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    Whats the matter kid? You think the death of Sammy Davis Jr left an opening in the Rat Pack?
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