Obama's Birth Certificate thing...

Collin wrote:

We're just looking at it from different perspectives, I guess. I think Obama's case isn't like 'every other presidential candidate' precisely because of all the rumours and slander. Indeed he went no further, this doesn't have me up in arms but I just think that maybe he should have taken it a little further to nip the whole thing in the bud. Instead he decided to treat this lightly, paying no further attention to it and hardly commenting on it. I think this approach has given his 'opponents' in this case more ammo, I think this will only confirm many people's prejudices and strengthen their distrust.

Are you aware of what is on this guy's plate right now?? The current regime has essentially stepped off except to write a lot of really bad legislation that will destroy many public, beautiful places, in the names of the oil and coal companies. He's watching all of that. He's putting together his administration. He's working feverishly to work out solutions for economic collapse, The world is fire, and then there is this idiot who purports to be some sort of graphic expert who in his cowardice spews his nonsense in anonymity. There's no there, there. We have elected a man who is actually concerned with working out domestic and international problems instead of creating them. Why not be grateful that there is finally a serious intellect who'll be taking charge of the White House.

angelica wrote:

you're a little black and white in your views, aren't you?

Let's see, he can concentrate on the very seriousness of the shit storm he is inheriting, or he can play ping pong with frivolous lawsuits started by partisan idiots who work to the detriment of the country in the name of 'party', or some self interest. Yeah, this one I see as pretty cut and dried, Angelica.

Sweet Emotion wrote:

Are you aware of what is on this guy's plate right now?? The current regime has essentially stepped off except to write a lot of really bad legislation that will destroy many public, beautiful places, in the names of the oil and coal companies. He's watching all of that. He's putting together his administration. He's working feverishly to work out solutions for economic collapse, The world is fire, and then there is this idiot who purports to be some sort of graphic expert who in his cowardice spews his nonsense in anonymity. There's no there, there. We have elected a man who is actually concerned with working out domestic and international problems instead of creating them. Why not be grateful that there is finally a serious intellect who'll be taking charge of the White House.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I concur 100%.

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I think the concept of challenging politics to stand up to all forms of scrutiny is a worthwhile process in and of itself.

I doubt very highly it would take more than a few moments of BO's time to have someone issue a simple statement in response, and be done with it.

Avoiding something based on distrust just breeds further distrust.

Something like "we have looked into the claims and find them to be nothing more than desperate, trivial and inconsequential, and something that requires no further action on our behalf", and then he could go on to sell his strong points, and totally turn it around.

The ignorance thing is just bad practice...bad PR.

You should forward your thoughts to his blackberry. He might be very appreciative.

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I think the concept of challenging politics to stand up to all forms of scrutiny is a worthwhile process in and of itself.

I doubt very highly it would take more than a few moments of BO's time to have someone issue a simple statement in response, and be done with it.

Avoiding something based on distrust just breeds further distrust.

Something like "we have looked into the claims and find them to be nothing more than desperate, trivial and inconsequential, and something that requires no further action on our behalf", and then he could go on to sell his strong points, and totally turn it around.

The ignorance thing is just bad practice...bad PR.

He already had a "simple statement in response" put out back in June while he was still campaigning. Then he released a copy of his COLB - for public viewing, which I think is very unusual. The plain fact of the matter is, it will never be enough to satisfy the intrewebs.. They have already made up their minds. No remarks, statements or even a long form birth certificate will ever convince them otherwise. These people will never consider him legitimate, so why bother trying to change their minds. Let these Berg types make claims, put out requests for donations, and continue to circulate money between themselves in what amounts to a "wow, isn't this like the neatest evah!? I is OUTRAGED ova teh theft of teh whit house by furriners" pyramid scheme.

unifiedscene wrote:

I find it quite telling that you have no response to the substance of my post, and instead make it about your personal perceptions of me. That's the first sign of a weak argument.

it takes one to know one?......;)

aNiMaL wrote:

I cringe when people lend credence to cockamamie frivolous bullshit like this topic is.

Who is playing favorites? I am calling it as I see it.

Again, where is the proof or reason to believe that Obama was born in Africa? Has the African doctor come forward saying that he delivered the infant Obama? Is there photographs of the newborn Obama in an African hospital? Is there at least a Kenyon Birth Certificate for Barack Obama?

What logical reason exists to doubt Obama on his word, and in reading the proof from the Hawaii Health Department that he was in fact born in HI?

so you see one view. is it okay for you that someone else sees differently, and would like to explore their perspective?