Ron Paul segment on Bill O'reilly tonight

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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    the main consequence of letting Iran take over parts of Iraq is that it increases real or imagined threats to Isreal, and limits western access to oil....that's all I can see....and I don't personally feel that justifies any more bloodshed.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Drowned Out wrote:
    not without consequence...but what is the consequence of the alternative?

    hypothetical, I know :)

    there would be much more consequence with going to war with Iran, no question. but allowing them to do as they please should not be the answer either.

    im not sure what should happen.

    I wish all the shit would end so I can go visit. Iran/Iraq area is where civilization began. so many places to see. maybe one day
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I wish all the shit would end so I can go visit. Iran/Iraq area is where civilization began. so many places to see. maybe one day

    Agreed....it looks beautiful there....or was anyway.
  • Flannel Shirt
    Flannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    This fucking jerkoff did extra. Lets not forget this. He is a smug asshole. Never a discussion, just confrontation.
    Ron Paul did look flustered.
    Fuck fox news.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • Its Evolution Baby
    Its Evolution Baby Posts: 849
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    This fucking jerkoff did extra. Lets not forget this. He is a smug asshole. Never a discussion, just confrontation.
    Ron Paul did look flustered.
    Fuck fox news.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Agreed....it looks beautiful there....or was anyway.

    On the current route, t will be full of shrapnel and chaos soon.

    edit: not to mention widespread radioactive particles from DU rounds.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Flannel Shirt wrote:
    This fucking jerkoff did extra. Lets not forget this. He is a smug asshole. Never a discussion, just confrontation.
    Ron Paul did look flustered.
    Fuck fox news.

    When you tune into O'reilly, all he does is urinate his opinion all over the place.

    Like Hannity, it's 99% agenda.
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    JamMastaE wrote:
    you have a lot more problems besides being inbred if you find O'Reilly "refreshing"

    and if you think Iran is a REAL threat then anything else you say can't be taken seriously because it's obvious you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

    awesome post dude.
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    When you tune into O'reilly, all he does is urinate his opinion all over the place.

    Like Hannity, it's 99% agenda.

    hannity, beck, ingraham, et al. SAY that they are giving you their opinion. i don't see the problem....if someone is telling you they are giving you their opinion...it is what it is.

    i'll agree with you to an extent on o'riley b/c he tries to be "above it all" which is obviously BS....

    but i don't see anything wrong with guys like hannity saying here's my opinion, and it's why i believe it.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    hannity, beck, ingraham, et al. SAY that they are giving you their opinion. i don't see the problem....if someone is telling you they are giving you their opinion...it is what it is.

    i'll agree with you to an extent on o'riley b/c he tries to be "above it all" which is obviously BS....

    but i don't see anything wrong with guys like hannity saying here's my opinion, and it's why i believe it.

    Hannity and the format of that show is an "opinion" agenda leaning to the "right." It really isn't about the human individual, or common sense.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    hannity, beck, ingraham, et al. SAY that they are giving you their opinion. i don't seen the problem....if someone is telling you they are giving you their opinion...it is what it is.

    i'll agree with you to an extent on o'riley b/c he tries to be "above it all" which is obviously BS....

    but i don't see anything wrong with guys like hannity saying here's my opinion, and it's why i believe it.


    O'reilly and Hannity are so predictable, it's to the point now that I know what they are going to say, or what angle they are going to take, well before they say it.

    Most of the time when they speak with their guests, they don't listen to anything but the sound of their own voice.

    It's a bit irresponsible as some people are impressionable, and put a lot of faith in what they say as unbiased and fair.
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    gue_barium wrote:
    Hannity and the format of that show is an "opinion" agenda leaning to the "right." It really isn't about the human individual, or common sense.

    hannity tells you he's a conservative...i'll agree that O'Reilly is misleading...he pretends to be a centrist....

    and it's true that you can tell what hannity will say...but you can also predict what keith olbermann will say...and i have no problem with any of that...

    my problem is with "journalists" who pretend to be unbiased...i just don't think that's possible.
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    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    hannity tells you he's a conservative...i'll agree that O'Reilly is misleading...he pretends to be a centrist....

    and it's true that you can tell what hannity will say...but you can also predict what keith olbermann will say...and i have no problem with any of that...

    my problem is with "journalists" who pretend to be unbiased...i just don't think that's possible.

    That could be a good subject for another post.

    McNeil/Lehrer back in the day on PBS were probably as close to mainstream newsworthy unbiased reporting as the good 'ol USA has ever had. 'Course, not too many people tuned in.
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  • jeffbr
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    gue_barium wrote:
    That could be a good subject for another post.

    McNeil/Lehrer back in the day on PBS were probably as close to mainstream newsworthy unbiased reporting as the good 'ol USA has ever had. 'Course, not too many people tuned in.

    Good call. I was a loyal watcher of the show for years and years.
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  • Bushleaguer28
    Bushleaguer28 Posts: 776
    baraka wrote:
    Hi Purple Hawk. I think, if Bill had let Paul, he would have more than made his point. One really can't debate this issue without a history lesson. These people just didn't wake up one day and decide to hate us for our freedom. It is a hard pill to shallow, but our past has come back to bite us and the current administration's actions have only made our position in the middle east worse. As for just walking out now after our fumble? Not sure is it is as easy as Paul says, we have really made a mess of things, but what he says about our past involvement fueling this fire is undeniable.

    O'reilly runs a tv program, has guests on, has certain questions he wants to ask, and only a very limited time to do so. When the people dont answer his questions he will continue to push and then move on. From what i saw in that interview, Paul had more time to respond to the questions then most guests on orielly's program. So im not sure that argument is valid.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Bushleaguer28 wrote:
    O'reilly runs a tv program, has guests on, has certain questions he wants to ask, and only a very limited time to do so. When the people dont answer his questions he will continue to push and then move on. From what i saw in that interview, Paul had more time to respond to the questions then most guests on orielly's program. So im not sure that argument is valid.


    Perhaps the timing thing is a bit of a problem then.

    Ever think this show might be just too "busy" to hold a decent conversation?

    How exactly do the other shows on TV manage it?
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Bushleaguer28 wrote:
    O'reilly runs a tv program, has guests on, has certain questions he wants to ask, and only a very limited time to do so. When the people dont answer his questions he will continue to push and then move on. From what i saw in that interview, Paul had more time to respond to the questions then most guests on orielly's program. So im not sure that argument is valid.
    o'reilly is not a listener. never has been, never will be. he runs a media enterprise, that's the niche he's found for himself in the culpable american media market.
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  • Bushleaguer28
    Bushleaguer28 Posts: 776
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Perhaps the timing thing is a bit of a problem then.

    Ever think this show might be just too "busy" to hold a decent conversation?

    How exactly do the other shows on TV manage it?

    i dunno - he only has the highest ratings for a show of his genre for a reason. Maybe you should contact producers if you think they are overbooked - i personally think a 6 minute segment to answer maybe 4 real questions (which paul answered none of) is more then enough time.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Bushleaguer28 wrote:
    i dunno - he only has the highest ratings for a show of his genre for a reason. Maybe you should contact producers if you think they are overbooked - i personally think a 6 minute segment to answer maybe 4 real questions (which paul answered none of) is more then enough time.


    Apparently not if Bill has to cut him off all the time.
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  • Bushleaguer28
    Bushleaguer28 Posts: 776
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Apparently not if Bill has to cut him off all the time.

    go back and time how much of the segment paul speaks
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