Obama not sure if he's CFR member...denies SPP/NAU, says it was cooked up by bloggers

bootlegger10 wrote:

http://www.cfr.org/publication/4280/future_of_north_american_integration_in_the_wake_of_the_terrorist_attacks.html

October of 2001 summary from CFR's own website talking about how 9/11 might affect the prospects of a North American Union. In print on their own website.

And yet Obama has never heard of this, and denies it is being talked about.

In 2001, Obama was in the State Senate and 3 years away form getting his US Senate seat ... do you know when he spoke at this CFR? or when Michelle Obama became a member?

I went on their site and cannot find any recent articles on this NAU plan ..

i like that obama is too inexperienced to be president, while at the same time so poised that 8 years ago he was part of an elite organization bent on world domination. kind of like how he's a muslim terrorist in disguise, while simultaneously wrong for attending a christian church that's too radical. the man can't win... and he's not even in office yet!

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Explain why he has no clue what the NAU is in 2008.

I think the excuses need to stop.

Ok, you mentioned the (THE) CFR ... and how Obama knows all about it even though the video, he doesn't seem to be heavily involved (his statement) ...

Then you set up the link to the SPP (Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America) ... which does include this in its Myths vs Fact section ...

http://spp.gov/myths_vs_facts.asp

Myth: The SPP is being undertaken without the knowledge of the U.S. Congress.

Fact: U.S. agencies involved with SPP regularly update and consult with members of Congress on our efforts and plans.

So, I'd assume Obama would know about the SPP ...

But, as far as an NAU ... it also states this ...

Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.

Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at http://www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.


So, where is this NAU talk coming from?

And I'm not seeing how this is tied to the (THE) CFR ...

I went on their website (CFR) and found no articles other than the one posted in 2001 about a supposed North American Union.

Again ... just trying to understand what you're worried about here ...

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

They changed the name, but rest assured this is the one and same entity doing the one and same thing as the NAU...same people......the SPP/NAU terms are synonymous and interchangeable. I first told people about here over a year ago.

You need to do a lot of research on what the CFR is, I did mine years ago.

ok, I'm asking you ... can you point me in the direction of the research?

You've been studying it for years, should be easy for you to point me in the direction of a few articles to get me concerned.

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I dug these links from a post I made here in August 2007.

http://www.canadians.org/integratethis/backgrounders/guide/index.html

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1355300745194023737

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1423048425357282639&hl=en-CA

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=6572

http://www.infowars.net/articles/august2007/200807SPP.htm

thank you ... I will read them ...

Has anything happened since August of 2007 that has you more concerned?

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Other than it getting incredibly quiet, as there has been literally zero information to go on. Pretty much a media black out. It's all hush hush now. Even all their websites have been changed and toned down due to all the negativity it created. Back peddle big time, such as that myth and facts section creation. Once people reacted to it, they countered accordingly, and toned it all down.

Their website used to include a huge picture of the proposed highway proudly displayed...not any more.

All in secrecy this whole thing was hatched and planned. Zero public involvement.

in nutshell, the entire infrastructure of all three countries would form into one entity from education , resources, military, banks, currency.....so many things....literally everything.

The terms Canada, US, and Mexico would just become formalities on a map

seriously, I cannot see this being any sort of priority right now ...

good to know about, but, again, it's no where near the top of the agenda at current.

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The fact that Obama hasn't heard anything about it, and thinks it's not real, and has simply been been cooked up by bloggers really does not sit well at all....it makes no sense whatsoever.

And I'm not sure it's even a 'fact' to begin with....

(although he may claim it...)

angelica wrote:

And I'm not sure it's even a 'fact' to begin with....

(although he may claim it...)

Do you have any evidence of this, or is this just your opinion?

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The are more pressing issues for sure, however this is not going away overnight. This plan is still being worked on in private circles away from public scrutiny and awareness. The fact that Obama hasn't heard anything about it, and thinks it's not real, and has simply been been cooked up by bloggers really does not sit well at all....it makes no sense whatsoever.

Or perhaps he hasn't heard of it because this is some nutty fringe group of people who have no hope of ever getting this plan off the ground so no one with REAL issues to deal with doesn't give a flying fuck what they're "hatching and planning." It's not like they're going to create some NAU without any government ever taking a look at the plan.