'Apocalyptic scenario' if Egypt, Saudi go nuclear: Israel minister...

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  • Intothewild
    Intothewild Posts: 68
    mammasan wrote:
    I just find it fucking ridiculous that Israel, the country that secretly created a nuclear weapons program and armed itself with nuclear weapons, is complaining that countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia want to start or restart nuclear energy programs.


    Thats because YOU live in........the Garden State and NOT Israel. If your country had been invaded three times by your neighbors wouldn't you NOT want them to have nuclear bombs? How is this so difficult to understand?
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Intothewild wrote:
    Thats because YOU live in........the Garden State and NOT Israel. If your country had been invaded three times by your neighbors wouldn't you NOT want them to have nuclear bombs? How is this so difficult to understand?
    It isn't really a matter of having nuclear bombs or not anymore. The technology is there for the whole world to use. The nuclear issue isn't an issue if you think in terms of the strategica fearmongera. That is to say folks like Mujumahehahdahhdadh of Iran and the like, who send pleading nonsensical letters to our President in fear of the Bush intention... aren't afraid of nuclear annihilation so much as they are afraid of an Iraq-style bomb and scrape campaign. The nuclear issue is a tool for the masses (Iranian or American) to digest in the way the masses digest all other hyperbolic veiled threats to one's well-being.
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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    Israel gets to have nuclear weapons to defend itself because Israel is the only legitimate, civilized democracy in that whole godforsaken region.

    There's your answer right there.

    Define civilized.
  • Intothewild
    Intothewild Posts: 68
    polaris wrote:
    the daily treatment of palestinians by israeli authorities can be described as anything but civilized ...

    And suicide bombings by Paletinian children on Israeili civillians is? Plenty of blame to go around
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Brown people are lower on the social scale than all other minorities put together.

    Hate to say it, but it is an ethnic scrubbing and reduction in numbers of that race of people.

    Let's just call it what it is.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • Intothewild
    Intothewild Posts: 68
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Brown people are lower on the social scale than all other minorities put together.

    Hate to say it, but it is an ethnic scrubbing and reduction in numbers of that race of people.

    Let's just call it what it is.

    Not sure which race you are referring to since everyone in the middle east, Israelis included, are brown
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Intothewild wrote:
    Not sure which race you are referring to since everyone in the middle east, Israelis included, are brown

    Israelis? really? I'd like to see some if you can show me.
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  • Intothewild
    Intothewild Posts: 68
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Falasha_makstyle.jpg
  • Intothewild
    Intothewild Posts: 68
    Meant "this dark enough for ya"?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Intothewild wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Falasha_makstyle.jpg

    and what percentage of Israeli's would you say have that skin color? 95%? 70%

    less than 1%?
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  • Intothewild
    Intothewild Posts: 68
    Well you asked. I delivered. Clearly you have not been to the Middle East. If you had you would not be making statements that there are no brown Israelis. That's just ignorant. Both Arabs and Israeli's are semitic people. The pic I posted was a joke. That was an Ethiopian Jew. Cant get much browner than that can ya? Do your homework or travel or something...
  • Intothewild
    Intothewild Posts: 68
    The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance...
    ...it is the illusion of knowledge.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Intothewild wrote:
    The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance...
    ...it is the illusion of knowledge.

    Anytime you want to answer my question on what percentage or Israelis are dark skinned (or black people as you are trying to indicate?!?!) go right ahead.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but so far you have shown me nothing at all.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Intothewild wrote:
    Well you asked. I delivered. Clearly you have not been to the Middle East. If you had you would not be making statements that there are no brown Israelis. That's just ignorant. Both Arabs and Israeli's are semitic people. The pic I posted was a joke. That was an Ethiopian Jew. Cant get much browner than that can ya? Do your homework or travel or something...


    You've missed the boat entirely on what's going on.

    nice sidetrack into uselessness though.
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  • Intothewild
    Intothewild Posts: 68
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Anytime you want to answer my question on what percentage or Israelis are dark skinned (or black people as you are trying to indicate?!?!) go right ahead.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but so far you have shown me nothing at all.


    Oh black people...You said dark skinned. Lots of people are dark skinned. Well darker than me anyways. And really, WTF difference does the color of an Israelis skin matter to you?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Intothewild wrote:
    Oh black people...You said dark skinned. Lots of people are dark skinned. Well darker than me anyways. And really, WTF difference does the color of an Israelis skin matter to you?

    Trolling along are we?

    You're the one that made the issue of Israeli skin color if you care to recollect.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • My3rdEye
    My3rdEye Posts: 927
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    and what percentage of Israeli's would you say have that skin color? 95%? 70%

    less than 1%?

    Ethnic Groups:

    Jewish 75.8%
    Israeli Arab 19.9%
    Unaffiliated 4.3%
    **Most unaffiliated persons are non-Jewish immigrants from the former USSR)
    This data includes legal citizens of the State of Israel, not including any Jewish, Muslim, Christian, or other citizen living under areas administrated by the Palestinian Authority.

    Religions:
    Jewish 76.0%
    Muslim 16.3%
    Christian 2.1%
    Druze 1.7%
    Unclassified by Choice 3.9%

    Source: Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics
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  • Intothewild
    Intothewild Posts: 68
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Brown people are lower on the social scale than all other minorities put together.

    Hate to say it, but it is an ethnic scrubbing and reduction in numbers of that race of people.

    Let's just call it what it is.


    Actually you brought up the race card
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    Intothewild wrote:
    Actually you brought up the race card

    yeah but you missed entirely what he was saying.

    seeing as how israel is the one terrorizing the region, shouldn't they be the number one people who SHOULDN'T have nuclear weapons?

    i don't know, just a thought. then again, israel IS so civilized.....

    torturing, unjust arrests in the thousands, massacres, etc....

    civilized.....
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Intothewild wrote:
    Thats because YOU live in........the Garden State and NOT Israel. If your country had been invaded three times by your neighbors wouldn't you NOT want them to have nuclear bombs? How is this so difficult to understand?

    So should Mexico, Cuba, Nicarague, El Salvador, Cuba, Panama all be protesting the US' possession of nuclear weapons. Egypt and saudi Arabia are not a threat to Israel and further more neither of these countries has claimed any intention to build a nuclear weapons program and have ssured the international community that they would follow IAEA guidelines and rules. Every country has the right to pursue nuclear technology for the purpose of providing energy to it's people. Israel has no right to roadblock those actions considering that they are the only country possessing nuclear weapons that has not signed the NPT. If anything their neighbors should be the ones complaining about Israel.
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