I'd go just to view the people ...

gue_barium · May 2007

catefrances wrote:

yes i know it says in genesis how old Noah was. but remember it says a lot of things in the bible that may not be necessarily so as we know it.
don't think i am some sort of biblical apologist. i am deconstructing it as i would any work of fiction.

If in Genesis, we are to interpret 'day' to incorporate millions of years, then why would the meaning of 'day' change (in Genesis, to Christian revisionists), to mean also, a 24-hour day? yom is the hebrew word for day translated.

catefrances · May 2007

gue_barium wrote:

If in Genesis, we are to interpret 'day' to incorporate millions of years, then why would the meaning of 'day' change (in Genesis, to Christian revisionists), to mean also, a 24-hour day? yom is the hebrew word for day translated.

ever heard an elder person say, 'in my day' ?
what time frame do you reckon they were talking about?

and where does it say we are to interpret 'day' as millions of years? but you know gue, this misunderstanding about what constitutes the actual length of a day could actually mean that Man not God were the actual authors of the bible and that it is the word of Man not God. which would mean.....ah forget it. i'm just amusing myself.

gue_barium · May 2007

catefrances wrote:

ever heard an elder person say, 'in my day' ?
what time frame do you reckon they were talking about?

and where does it say we are to interpret 'day' as millions of years? but you know gue, this misunderstanding about what constitutes the actual length of a day could actually mean that Man not God were the actual authors of the bible and that it is the word of Man not God. which would mean.....ah forget it. i'm just amusing myself.

Have you even clicked the link?

lol.

here:

...Genesis 1 seems to be the only place where many Christians would argue concerning the meaning of the Hebrew word day (yom). For instance, do Christians ever spend hours arguing about how long Joshua took to march around Jericho? Could it have been a million years or a hundred thousand years, or did he march around in a day? Of course Christians don’t spend time arguing about this because they know what the word day means in context in regard to this section of Scripture.

Again, we need to ask the question as to why Christians seem to argue about the meaning of the word day in Genesis 1 to the exclusion of all of the other times the word day is used in the Old Testament.

In fact, a good question to ask people who argue about the meaning of the word in Genesis, is to answer the question as to when does the word day actually mean a literal 24-hour day? Most people do not have an answer to this. Many Christians are quick to say that the word day cannot mean an ordinary day in Genesis, and yet they don’t know the answer as to when the word day in context should be interpreted as an ordinary day. This is a very important thing to point out. The Hebrew language, like any other language, has certain rules of grammar that clarify the precise meaning of each word. This applies to the word day as well as any other word.

catefrances · May 2007

gue_barium wrote:

Have you even clicked the link?

lol.

here:

...Genesis 1 seems to be the only place where many Christians would argue concerning the meaning of the Hebrew word day (yom). For instance, do Christians ever spend hours arguing about how long Joshua took to march around Jericho? Could it have been a million years or a hundred thousand years, or did he march around in a day? Of course Christians don’t spend time arguing about this because they know what the word day means in context in regard to this section of Scripture.

Again, we need to ask the question as to why Christians seem to argue about the meaning of the word day in Genesis 1 to the exclusion of all of the other times the word day is used in the Old Testament.

In fact, a good question to ask people who argue about the meaning of the word in Genesis, is to answer the question as to when does the word day actually mean a literal 24-hour day? Most people do not have an answer to this. Many Christians are quick to say that the word day cannot mean an ordinary day in Genesis, and yet they don’t know the answer as to when the word day in context should be interpreted as an ordinary day. This is a very important thing to point out. The Hebrew language, like any other language, has certain rules of grammar that clarify the precise meaning of each word. This applies to the word day as well as any other word.

yes? and?
i imagine that time did not exist before God made the earth and heavens. so time as we know it is only applicable to a space as we know it - Earth.
how many days or what constitutes a day would be irrelevant to the human concept of such a timelength as humans did not exist at that time. this could be why it is not as disputable, or less so, later on in the bible.

who the hell even wrote genesis anyway? moses? so where did he get the story from? oral testimony or written? what it some lore passed down through the generations until moses decided to write the story down?

gue_barium · May 2007

catefrances wrote:

yes? and?
i imagine that time did not exist before God made the earth and heavens. so time as we know it is only applicable to a space as we know it - Earth.
how many days or what constitutes a day would be irrelevant to the human concept of such a timelength as humans did not exist at that time. this could be why it is not as disputable, or less so, later on in the bible.

who the hell even wrote genesis anyway? moses? so where did he get the story from? oral testimony or written? what it some lore passed down through the generations until moses decided to write the story down?

The revisionists would have you believe that genesis encompasses our modern belief that the world is millions of years old. But, they can't have it both ways in translation of the text, particularly when it comes to the word, "day."

Another reason I consider this to be a children's museum. It's Mickey Mouse.

catefrances · May 2007

gue_barium wrote:

The revisionists would have you believe that genesis encompasses our modern belief that the world is millions of years old. But, they can't have it both ways in translation of the text, particularly when it comes to the word, "day."

Another reason I consider this to be a children's museum. It's Mickey Mouse.

i know the believers are clutching at straws. thats all one can do when one relies on faith.

and that brings up an important question.

were there mice on the ark?

angelica · May 2007

Cosmo wrote:

No one assigned the task of judging other people's beliefs to me.
On the other hand... if you are a selfish, nasty, decietful person who tries to convince me of your righteousness because of your religion... whatever religion, including the belief in non-belief... I'm seeing through you and taking your word for what it's worth... which ain't much.

I agree with you.

Collin · May 2007

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this has to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.

Furthermore, it's pure religious bullshit propaganda... this isn't about sharing beliefs or anything... it's a propaganda machine made to brainwash people, especially kids.

Disgusting, imo.

But hey, if people want to go there ... who am I to criticize them?

I wonder how long it'll take before parent start urging schools to visit the "museum".

By the way, did you know lions were designed with sharp claws not to tear their prey open but to climb trees?

gue_barium · May 2007

angelica wrote:

I agree with you.

It's the new Disney museum.

RolandTD20Kdrummer · May 2007

Take your own virtual tour. Click on the right arrow to progress through the exhibit.

#25-#29 covers the ark.... It's the make a buck on Jesus factory...

"Anyone who rejects 6 day creation and Noah's flood is willfully ignorant"

http://www.answersingenesis.org/museum/walkthrough/

gue_barium · May 2007

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Take your own virtual tour. Click on the right arrow to progress through the exhibit.

#25-#29 covers the ark.... It's the make a buck on Jesus factory...

"Anyone who rejects 6 day creation and Noah's flood is willfully ignorant"

http://www.answersingenesis.org/museum/walkthrough/

Add a pirate exhibit and I am sooo there!

Collin · May 2007

They're also showing a very educational movie about how life was back then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acWQx-9O21g&mode=related&search=

RolandTD20Kdrummer · May 2007

Collin wrote:

They're also showing a very educational movie about how life was back then...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acWQx-9O21g&mode=related&search=

lol...I used to run home practically every day for lunch in grades 4,5,6 just to catch the Flintstones...that and Rocket Robin hood.

Well....I suppose if Dino could fit in the family car...the ark must have been a breeze.

I'd like to watch Noah lasso and wrestle a T-rex... he must have been badass..

RolandTD20Kdrummer · May 2007

sweet Jesus...someone else is definitely making a good buck on Jesus...

deals!
http://www.muralsforkids.com/index.php?cPath=23_39_111

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robbie · June 2007

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Cosmo · June 2007

When I go to the museum here in Los Angeles... i see little school kids on a field trip... just like the ones I used to love to go on as a kid.
Does this being a 'museum' count? If I had a kid, I'd be kinda concerned if his/her class planned a trip to it. I would want him/her to go... only because I remember the excitement I felt as a kid... but, this particular museum... I don't know. I think I would suggest to the school a nice little trip to the zoo, instead.
....
And it's NOT just because it's Christian. If the Scientologists built a museum that 'proves' their point of view was right... or the Muslims built a museum with their 'proof'... I would feel exactly the same.

Collin · June 2007

Cosmo wrote:

When I go to the museum here in Los Angeles... i see little school kids on a field trip... just like the ones I used to love to go on as a kid.
Does this being a 'museum' count? If I had a kid, I'd be kinda concerned if his/her class planned a trip to it. I would want him/her to go... only because I remember the excitement I felt as a kid... but, this particular museum... I don't know. I think I would suggest to the school a nice little trip to the zoo, instead.
....
And it's NOT just because it's Christian. If the Scientologists built a museum that 'proves' their point of view was right... or the Muslims built a museum with their 'proof'... I would feel exactly the same.

I don't think I'd let my kid go. I'd take him to another museum instead, or like you said, the zoo.

harmless_little_f*** · June 2007

I am a Christian, so I respect the Bible INCLUDING Genesis, but I can't help thinking that some of these Conservative types make us look like total idiots.

'Answers in Genesis'? Maybe. Scientific answers? No, and nor were they ever meant to be.

Cosmo · June 2007

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

I am a Christian, so I respect the Bible INCLUDING Genesis, but I can't help thinking that some of these Conservative types make us look like total idiots.

'Answers in Genesis'? Maybe. Scientific answers? No, and nor were they ever meant to be.

...
That's along the lines that I'm thinkin'. I mean, your spirituality, faith and beliefs come from the heart.. not the brain. The same way miracles cannot be explained, your faith cannot be explained either.
I think they'd be better serve their religion by simply accepting faith as faith and quit trying to make religion a science. They really do look like fools with the teenage vegetarian dinosaurs on the Ark with Noah thing. It's fine and dandy to build this display to illustrate your belief... but, please... just call it what it is... an amusement park, not a museum.

Mookie Baylock · June 2007

People need to draw a firm line between faith and science. They are not compatible.

I see nothing wrong with a museum of Christianty. I think it would be very interesting. But this museum is saying that science supports their claims. This is absolutely false. This is the problem with this museum. As an academic expert in evolution and a museum professional this offends me.

Many people see museums (excluding silly vaudevillian things like wax museums) and think words like "truth" and "knowledge" and "education". The fact that this museum offers none of these cheapens my profession.

I'd go just to view the people ...

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