tonight's debate

mfc2006 wrote:

what should we expect? with the barrage of dirty ads & accusations flying though the media & from the mouths of the politicians themselves...

will the gloves be off? this is a town hall debate, right? how will that play a role? it will be interesting to say the least...

just wanted to hear everyone's thoughts.

if John McCain doesn't continue the attacks during the debate, then he is every bit the political coward I think he is. Some of his attacks are so bad, it's disrespectful to his wife and daugther who were similarly attacked in 2000 by the Bush campaign. For him to go down this road, as he has the last 4 days, cheapens him as a human being.

digster wrote:

Problem is, I don't know how Obama pressing for the end of negative campaigning would fly. With Obama, I don't think he's done as many or as bad negative political ads, but his hands are nowhere near clean on the issue of negative politics. As a supporter, I'm first to admit that his campaigning has not matched his rhetoric in that regard. So some people might view that as disingenuous.

I think Obama can and should, however, go after McCain on the politics of character asassination that McCain has engaged in throughout the campaign.

which is my point ... if from here on on, they ran SOLELY on their own opinions, that would be good for the country. It'll make McCain look like a dick for not saying "ok let's do that" ....

I know, I know, negative ads work.

anyway, tonight ... Obama needs to stay on point ... a Reagan-esque theme of "are you better now than you were 8 years ago?" ... hammer McCain on healthcare, the economy and Iraq.

Uncle Leo wrote:

McPalin has been on the attack. All he has to do tonight is work Bill Ayers into every answer and BAM...we have Willie Horton driving a swift boat.

Truthfully, I have never for one second thought that Obama would win and this just seems like a perfect time for my prediction to come true.

Yes, they clearly have been on the attack. But at the same time, there doesn't seem any studies showing that this has actually helped the McCain--rather, it seems to energize the Republican base, which was already in the bag, and alienate any undecided and moderate voters.

While the election is certainly close at this point, especially if one lends credence to the Bradley effect and factors in margin of error, I don't feel either candidate is looking at any easy win just yet. As well, I have a hard time believing that Ayers (or Keating for that matter, to look at it from another prospective) will trump issues such as the failing economy and what seems to be a falling foreign policy.

While the Swift Boat ordeal certainly aided in Kerry's defeat, I think liberals and conservatives alike recognize that he was a weak candidate. Obama seems to energize voters beyond Kerry's "at least I'm not George Bush" appeal. Also, he can move his forehead a little, proving that unlike Kerry, he's likely not a robot.

I guess my question is: What new revelation has there been about Obama and Ayer's connection that will propel the issue to the forefront of the election as well as change the minds of even more voters? What new light can this issue be shown in that will shift public perception in such a meaningful way as to assure "an easy victory" for John McCain?

nothinghead wrote:

so you're Joe Six-pack that Sarah Palin keeps referring to?

Me, I'm Joe Twelve-Pack...I represent Americans with drinking problems, I guess.

LOL!

McCain, you just voted for the pork on the bailout. Stop lying. You are not a reformer.

WHY does McCain blink so much???

jimed14 wrote:

anyone notice McCain couldn't remember the 3 things Brokaw asked him to prioritize? and when he did eventually write them down ... he couldn't prioritize them?

Yes. I believe Tom Brokaw also just said, "I'm going to shoot the next motherfucker who speaks for more than a minute."

Come on, think of the advertising dollars. We don't need answers, we gotta get this thing done as quickly as possible.

And a stunning blow landed as Obama employs the "use it or lose it" argument for drilling in Alaska.

Obama just proved one thing, he doens't udnerstand the meaning of the word "quickly" ... as Brokaw asked ... :rolleyes:

this is a fucking joke