What's the fucking deal with Palestinians?

You want to see people stop blowing themselves up?

Give them billions in military aid.

I can guarantee you suicide bombing will stop overnight.

swallowedwords wrote:

The sad thing is, the lives of many Arabs in occupied territories would be greatly improved if their so-called leaders wanted a true and lasting peace with their Jewish neighbors. Again, when Muslim children are taught from infancy to despise Jews/Christians, there's not much chance for peace in the future.

I do see radical Islam as the problem.

Until you, and America at large, start to see Israel's part in this carnage, the cycle will just keep repeating.

swallowedwords wrote:

Retaliation is a bitch, isn't it? Again, all of this would end if the Arabs truly wanted peace with Israel. Like I said before, unfortunately, many won't rest until every Jew is pushed into the sea. There was a great chance to attain a peaceful settlement in the late 90s, but good old Yasser Arafat wasn't interested in peace.

hahha..retalition is a bitch? Im sure that's what the suicide bombers say too. Unless you open your mind; you will always be part of the problem. Look in the f'n mirror.

swallowedwords wrote:

As I mentioned previously, my mother is from Ireland and Catholic, so I definitely have an interest in this topic. I think it was perfectly justifiable for Irish Catholics to fight against English occupation, but I denounce the terror that the IRA took part in. Part of my mother's family was beaten and killed by the Black and Tans, yet my mom has always denounced the IRA's tactics as counter-productive and cruel.

So can you see how, when you look past the suicide bombings, there's a genuine fight for freedom going on?

swallowedwords wrote:

Hmmm, not really. I think it's more about eliminating all Non-Muslims, instead of a fight for freedom. I also think it has a lot to do with envy. Jews have built Israel into a modern, functioning society. I believe many Islamist radicals use religion as an excuse to murder innocents, while the deeper problem could be the envy and resentment of those who are doing better than you.

Jews havent dont that, the west has and have you heard of Dubai?

chopitdown wrote:

why do you automatically assume it's NOT down to radical islam? What if it's radical islam and the religious promises etc... that make men that desperate?

Clearly, this is not a single issue or a single side conflict. Both sides have to want to get along and both sides have to make concessions. We can post facts and figures about how one side is blowing up the other side and we can make either side the victim, as this thread has demonstrated, but the bottom line is both sides have to want peace and both sides have to control the extremists in their camps if peace is to ever come about.

i hate posts like these... it's as if the palestinians are doing just as much destruction as the israeli's are... when clearly that is not the case. you can't make a single post that will make israel seem more of a victim than palestine because it isn't.

swallowedwords wrote:

Hmmm, not really. I think it's more about eliminating all Non-Muslims, instead of a fight for freedom. I also think it has a lot to do with envy. Jews have built Israel into a modern, functioning society. I believe many Islamist radicals use religion as an excuse to murder innocents, while the deeper problem could be the envy and resentment of those who are doing better than you.

that's ridiculous. it's not about eliminating non-muslims... do you think it's just a coincidence that muslims began retaliating at the same time israel declared its independence? your points just make no sense at all.

also, it has nothing to do with envy. now you are just making retarded assumptions based on your own bullshit. in SEVERAL arab countries, there are modern, functioning societies and westernized cities. in fact, I just got back from a trip to Dubai... ever heard of it?

the only reason israel is "doing better" than arabs militarily or anything is because of all the aid given by the US... and that is why many arabs feel resentment towards the US, because of it's one-sided support of israel that has allowed israel to break all these laws...

edit: lol, looks like you did hear of dubai. and for your information, many countries already HAVE taken palestinian REFUGEES in, after they were kicked out of palestine by the israelis...