Do you know you're buying and eating certified Kosher food all the time?

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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Take a look for these symbols next time you're at the grocery store. In Canada you'll find the U, the MK, and the COR amongst others.

    Essentially all ice creams, cooking oils, ketchup, pickles, beets....the list is rather expansive.

    http://kosherfood.about.com/od/guidetokosherfoodlabels/ss/symbols.htm

    Look for yourself next time you go grocery shopping. You might be rather surprised how much of your pantry is already kosher
    http://web.mit.edu/burton2/kosher_symbols%5E1.jpg

    You're paying an additional nominal fee for a Rabbi to certify these products.

    Some argue it's supports Israel and their policies discretely. The verdict is still out for me.

    Question: Do you think this is deceptive advertising?

    roland, does your computer have an intel chip in it? ever use johnson and johnson products? use any IBM equipment? anything made my general electric? or hewlett packard? ever eat at mcdonalds? they all invest in israel.

    if you answer yes to any of these then you too are supporting israel and their racist policies. so who cares about whether or not by eating kosher food were supporting israel.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    catefrances wrote:
    roland, does your computer have an intel chip in it? ever use johnson and johnson products? use any IBM equipment? anything made my general electric? or hewlett packard? ever eat at mcdonalds? they all invest in israel.

    if you answer yes to any of these then you too are supporting israel and their racist policies. so who cares about whether or not by eating kosher food were supporting israel.


    Some things we have choices over some things we do not...

    like what I decide to ingest that in fact becomes me on a cellular level.

    right?
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Some things we have choices over some things we do not...

    like what I decide to ingest that in fact becomes me on a cellular level.

    right?

    as you know i am an atheist and how my food is prepared religiously means nothing to me, purely because i am an atheist. their rituals hold no meaning for me. im not gonna refuse food simply because it has been prepared kosher, or halal for that matter.
    sorry roland it seems much ado about nothing if you ask me. and to suggest(not saying you are) that consuming kosher goods is support for israel is ludicrous.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    omg you need some help dude...


    one track mind


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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    catefrances wrote:
    as you know i am an atheist and how my food is prepared religiously means nothing to me, purely because i am an atheist. their rituals hold no meaning for me. im not gonna refuse food simply because it has been prepared kosher, or halal for that matter.
    sorry roland it seems much ado about nothing if you ask me. and to suggest(not saying you are) that consuming kosher goods is support for israel is ludicrous.

    That's not entirely the argument I'm looking at. Part of it is industry food labeling practices (with regards to food preparation) to the mainstream consumer they have no face value knowledge of, unless they are A) first told about, and B) have to carry around a little cryptic code book thereafter.

    Why is this?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    El_Kabong wrote:
    roland needs change he can believe in


    If only we all did brother...

    ;)
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  • South of Seattle
    South of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    I've been looking for some Halal honey butter for my biscuits. I could only find that shit in Utah. :(
    NERDS!
  • _Crazy_Mary_
    _Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    Yes, a few years ago I noticed the symbols on many of the foods I was buying. I don't care either way. I don't see how it is fake advertising.
    For the most part I make everything from scratch now. Sometimes I'll buy crackers or candy or bread, but we don't buy many pre-packaged foods.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    That's not entirely the argument I'm looking at. Part of it is industry food labeling practices (with regards to food preparation) to the mainstream consumer they have no face value knowledge of, unless they are A) first told about, and B) have to carry around a little cryptic code book thereafter.

    Why is this?

    well then people need to ask. just like they should with all the little chemical preservative codes on their food. if they arent overly concerned HOW their food retains its flavour and WHY it lasts so long, then why should they care about how its prepared religiously?
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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    If you eat Kosher food, I promise you, you won't turn into a Jew.

    I used to work at Entenmann's bakery in the 90's. We made sure that our kitchens were kosher before we could use the Pareve symbol on our boxes, especially at Passover.

    What makes it Pareve? A rabbi blesses the utensils, the dishwasher, everything in the kitchen. He makes sure it's clean and that no meat nor dairy touches the blade of a knife nor the blade of a mixer.

    It's important to some people. To me, it is not.

    What is the big f'ing deal?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    catefrances wrote:
    well then people need to ask. just like they should with all the little chemical preservative codes on their food. if they arent overly concerned HOW their food retains its flavour and WHY it lasts so long, then why should they care about how its prepared religiously?

    At least they use actual words that can be read and so the consumer can have some vague notion or idea of upon encountering.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Bu2 wrote:
    If you eat Kosher food, I promise you, you won't turn into a Jew.

    Sorry. That's not my argument.

    I want to know why they have to use little secret symbols that are 100% meaningless without some kind of secret code book nobody knows about.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Bu2 wrote:
    If you eat Kosher food, I promise you, you won't turn into a Jew.

    I used to work at Entenmann's bakery in the 90's. We made sure that our kitchens were kosher before we could use the Pareve symbol on our boxes, especially at Passover.

    What makes it Pareve? A rabbi blesses the utensils, the dishwasher, everything in the kitchen. He makes sure it's clean and that no meat nor dairy touches the blade of a knife nor the blade of a mixer.

    It's important to some people. To me, it is not.

    What is the big f'ing deal?

    howdy bu bu. :)

    I have no problem with them doing that as long as I have the choice to choose NOT to purchase or eat food prepared in that way. That's all I'm saying. I don't want my food blessed and I'd say it's as important to me that it isn't as it is to those that want it blessed. :)
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    At least they use actual words that can be read and so the consumer can have some vague notion or idea of upon encountering.

    so you know what (150a) and (202) means when theyre talking about colour and preservative in your soy sauce then? not sure how many people do know and how many actually care.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Jeanie wrote:
    howdy bu bu. :)

    I have no problem with them doing that as long as I have the choice to choose NOT to purchase or eat food prepared in that way. That's all I'm saying. I don't want my food blessed and I'd say it's as important to me that it isn't as it is to those that want it blessed. :)

    Precisely.

    It's a two way street isn't it?

    Apparently not for some reason. I have to comply and adapt to rules for like.0000000001 percent of the worlds population. Actually I read somewhere it's 0% rounded...

    but I'm wrong of course...

    Critical thinking is bad.....just follow along

    I think I'm seeing how the holocaust happened...lol
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    catefrances wrote:
    so you know what (150a) and (202) means when theyre talking about colour and preservative in your soy sauce then? not sure how many people do know and how many actually care.

    They don't put just a the number, and at least I would know it's a preservative, or color dye, and it's in the list of ingredients itself.

    If they put a number randomly on the package outside the ingredients list like the kosher symbols I wouldn't though.

    Is it too hard to print kosher on the ingredients list at the end?!?

    I'm thinking no.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    They don't put just a the number, and at least I would know it's a preservative, or color dye, and it's in the list of ingredients itself.

    If they put a number randomly on the package outside the ingredients list like the kosher symbols I wouldn't though.

    Is it too hard to print kosher on the ingredients list at the end?!?

    I'm thinking no.

    but what is preservative 202 exactly? i dont know but i eat it anyway. :)
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Precisely.

    It's a two way street isn't it?

    Apparently not for some reason. I have to comply and adapt to rules for like.0000000001 percent of the worlds population. Actually I read somewhere it's 0% rounded...

    but I'm wrong of course...

    Critical thinking is bad.....just follow along

    I think I'm seeing how the holocaust happened...lol

    Well I'm not going to wade into the holocaust debate Roland. :D

    Life is too short and there are other things for me to think about, however, I do believe that regardless of the religion there is far too much of it that we are subjected to in day to day life. If people hold belief and they follow a religion that's great and I have no problem but I am tired of constantly having to adapt and change and make accomadations for that because of how it's handled in the world. The shame is that athiests tend not to band together as a group so I think we'll always be pretty much stuffed by this! :p:D
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    catefrances wrote:
    but what is preservative 202 exactly? i dont know but i eat it anyway. :)


    I dunno, but did you know the largest Kosher meat plant in the US just got busted for making meth? Not particularly awesome news. http://www.jta.org/cgi-bin/iowa/breaking/108541.html

    I don't want to support certain religious (edit: preferably all) groups unknowingly. That is my right...or is it? Do I have to? Does it make me a bad person if I don't want to or be able to make that decision at face value instead of deciphering symbols?

    It's the same as me approaching someone and telling them I have to personally touch XYZ items in their factory and they have to pay me for it, and the they have to recoup the fees by passing on the additional cost to the consumer. They would tell me to fuck off in about three seconds.

    I'm still a little wary of why so many mainstream food corps are bending over backwards to get kosher certification to appeal to near 0% of the population.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • sweetpotato
    sweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    RainDog wrote:
    Didn't know. Didn't care.

    Now that I do know, is it possible to care less?

    Yes. Yes it is. I now officially care even less about Kosher food than I did before.

    :D
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