Castro reportedly in 'grave' condition

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  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    jlew24asu wrote:
    ...Singapore is a republic...elections in Singapore...

    Hey, just like Iraq! Saddam even won his final re-election with 99% of the vote!

    Man, being a nieve idiot is even easier than I thought!
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Collin wrote:
    Cuba isn't a dictatorship either.
    last I checked Castro has been calling the shots for the last 50 years.
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    Eh no you don't... per head of population FAR from it.

    Per capita, US is no. 20

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_eco_aid_don_percap-economic-aid-donor-per-capita

    Per GDP US is no. 23

    http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_eco_aid_don_pergdp-economic-aid-donor-per-gdp

    Note we're in the top ten on both lists


    What part of "we give more aid than any other country, BY FAR" did you not understand?
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    Hey, just like Iraq! Saddam even won his final re-election with 99% of the vote!

    Man, being a nieve idiot is even easier than I thought!

    A. Its not a democracy when someone holds a gun to your head and tells you who to vote for.

    B. Calling someone a nieve idiot shows that you just got pwned in an argument and can't come up with anything better to say.
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    Hey, just like Iraq! Saddam even won his final re-election with 99% of the vote!

    Man, being a nieve idiot is even easier than I thought!

    hey im not saying singapore is free. honestly I dont know, I have never been there.
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    jlew24asu wrote:
    hey im not saying singapore is free. honestly I dont know, I have never been there.

    I imagine it's a lot like Miami...
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yes I do

    imposing freedom? ok I want them to be free.

    If you want them to be free and have choice, then why would you make a statement about 'forcing' something on them. You do see the fallacy in your statement, right? If the cuban people WANTED another dictator, would you attack them and impose your will on them? That's taking THEIR choice away and is the furthest thing from 'freedom'. I would hope they would choose wisely, but ultimately, it's not my choice to make.

    jlew24asu wrote:
    if given the choice, would any human, choose freedom or choose a dictator?

    I know what I would choose, but I'm not going to impose my choice on others. There are a lot of countries that do not like the 'choices' of the US. I don't think any American would want said country to impose their will on them.
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    jlew24asu wrote:
    last I checked Castro has been calling the shots for the last 50 years.

    The people's action party in Singapore has been ruling since 1959. That's 48 years.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Collin wrote:
    The people's action party in Singapore has been ruling since 1959. That's 48 years.

    super. and you say thats a good thing?
  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    What part of "we give more aid than any other country, BY FAR" did you not understand?
    Eh... ANY of it... cos it's wrong :confused:

    What part of MY post TELLING you you're wrong don't you understand... the facts and figures are there! Pretty straightforward.
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
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    Had I not found this love with you
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    Eh... ANY of it... cos it's wrong :confused:

    What part of MY post TELLING you you're wrong don't you understand... the facts and figures are there! Pretty straightforward.


    In dollars and cents. its true. america, by far, gives the most.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    jlew24asu wrote:
    super. and you say thats a good thing?

    Not necessarily but it has been for the people there.

    edit:

    Singapore, a highly-developed and successful free-market economy, enjoys a remarkably open and corruption-free environment, stable prices, and a per capita GDP equal to that of the four largest West European countries.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Collin wrote:
    Not necessarily but it has been for the people there.

    I'm not so sure about that.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    The fledgling nation had to become self-sufficient, and faced problems including mass unemployment, housing shortages and lack of land and natural resources such as petroleum. During Lee Kuan Yew's term as prime minister from 1959 to 1990, his administration curbed unemployment, raised the standard of living and implemented a large-scale public housing programme. The country's economic infrastructure was developed, the threat of racial tension was eliminated and an independent national defence system was created. Singapore evolved from a developing nation to a global city with first world status towards the end of the 20th century.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • Heineken Helen
    Heineken Helen Posts: 18,095
    jlew24asu wrote:
    In dollars and cents. its true. america, by far, gives the most.
    eh... no, it's NOT true :D:D:D Jesus, I give you the FACTS and I'm still wrong! :rolleyes:

    Where are you getting this 'fact' of yours then? Please educate me, I'd love to know!
    The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
    Verona??? it's all surmountable
    Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
    Wembley? We all believe!
    Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
    Chicago 07? And love
    What a different life
    Had I not found this love with you
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Collin wrote:
    The fledgling nation had to become self-sufficient, and faced problems including mass unemployment, housing shortages and lack of land and natural resources such as petroleum. During Lee Kuan Yew's term as prime minister from 1959 to 1990, his administration curbed unemployment, raised the standard of living and implemented a large-scale public housing programme. The country's economic infrastructure was developed, the threat of racial tension was eliminated and an independent national defence system was created. Singapore evolved from a developing nation to a global city with first world status towards the end of the 20th century.

    sounds great. but what happens if someone opposes the government? are people forced to watch state run tv? is there freedom of speech? freedom of religion? with any dictatorship peoples freedoms are limited in some way, which is bad. but thats just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong
  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    jlew24asu wrote:
    What will happen when Castro dies? will things change? how is his brother?
    ................................................
    .


    Cuba will eventually become a State, if not the 51st, then the 52nd behind Puerto Rico. If Cuba becomes a State before Puerto Rico the U.S. will not have a need for Puerto Rico, even as a commonwealth. The Canal is outdated, they pay no federal taxes, and, can not support our military requirements. Puerto Rico will become just another island nation.

    Cuba is strategically more vital to us by location and resources. It would be stupid not to open up the diplomatic channels immediately with Cuba. It would be stupid not offer them Statehood, in a respectable timeframe after Castro passes. The U.S. can not afford to let this opportunity pass.

    If done CORRECTLY, I don't see a lot of opposition from his brother or the Cuban people.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Heineken Helen wrote:
    eh... no, it's NOT true :D:D:D Jesus, I give you the FACTS and I'm still wrong! :rolleyes:

    Where are you getting this 'fact' of yours then? Please educate me, I'd love to know!



    Net Official Development Assistance in 2005 as US dollar amounts (millions)Country Aid amount by dollars

    USA 27,457
    Japan 13,101
    UK 10,754
    France 10,059
    Germany 9,915
    Netherlands 5,131
    Italy 5,053
    Canada 3,731
    Sweden 3,280
    Spain 3,123
    Norway 2,775
    Denmark 2,107
    Belgium 1,975
    Switzerland 1,771
    Australia 1,666
    Austria 1,552
    Finland 897
    Ireland 692
    Greece 535
    Portugal 367
    New Zealand 274





    http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp#ForeignAidNumbersinChartsandGraphs
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    puremagic wrote:
    Cuba will eventually become a State, if not the 51st, then the 52nd behind Puerto Rico. If Cuba becomes a State before Puerto Rico the U.S. will not have a need for Puerto Rico, even as a commonwealth. The Canal is outdated, they pay no federal taxes, and, can not support our military requirements. Puerto Rico will become just another island nation.

    Cuba is strategically more vital to us by location and resources. It would be stupid not to open up the diplomatic channels immediately with Cuba. It would be stupid not offer them Statehood, in a respectable timeframe after Castro passes. The U.S. can not afford to let this opportunity pass.

    If done CORRECTLY, I don't see a lot of opposition from his brother or the Cuban people.

    wow really? I sure hope not. I want Cuba to be an independent nation.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    jlew24asu wrote:
    sounds great. but what happens if someone opposes the government? are people forced to watch state run tv? is there freedom of speech? freedom of religion? with any dictatorship peoples freedoms are limited in some way, which is bad. but thats just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong

    http://www.sustainer.org/dhm_archive/search.php/?display_article=vn210singaporeed

    It's an interesting read.

    But this thread isn't about Singapore so I suggest we let it rest.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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