Saddam's late Christmas present...

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    sponger wrote:
    Iraqis voted for his execution, not americans. I'm talking about Iraqis owning up to the fact that Saddam is a reflection of their way of life -that he is not some enigmatic blemish on their proud history. They need to say, "Look, Iraq is a fucked up place to live in. It's no wonder why he have people like Saddam in control." Instead they want to play the victims. And victims will always be victims regardless of who they blame and execute.

    I'm not denying that, I'm just adding that there were other determinents in Saddam's behavior.
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  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm not denying that, I'm just adding that there were other determinents in Saddam's behavior.

    Yeah, but America's role was not what my post was about, so I didn't "forget" anything. If Saddam was being executed because Bush voted for it, then we'd be talking about America's role.
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  • gue_barium
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    sponger wrote:
    Iraqis voted for his execution, not americans. I'm talking about Iraqis owning up to the fact that Saddam is a reflection of their way of life -that he is not some enigmatic blemish on their proud history. They need to say, "Look, Iraq is a fucked up place to live in. It's no wonder why he have people like Saddam in control." Instead they want to play the victims. And victims will always be victims regardless of who they blame and execute.
    That's quite a perspective, and it's true. I hadn't heard it said that way before.
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  • enharmonic
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    tybird wrote:
    It is amazing what prime geo-political real estate and hosting a major U.S. military facility will get you these days.....at least the Turks have historically balanced their genocidal efforts between Christians (Armenians) and Muslims (Kurds). ;)

    You nailed it.

    The double standard is chilling.
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  • sapperskunk
    sapperskunk Posts: 684
    enharmonic wrote:
    You nailed it.

    The double standard is chilling.

    The US is like the last country to not recognize the Armenian genocide, it's terrible, especially as an Armenian like myself, System of a Down has been huge advocates trying to influence legislation but to no avail. But also as a veteran, I understand the importance of strategic airbases throughout the world. What can I say, I'm conflicted.
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  • enharmonic
    enharmonic Posts: 1,917
    sapperskunk wrote:
    The US is like the last country to not recognize the Armenian genocide, it's terrible, especially as an Armenian like myself, System of a Down has been huge advocates trying to influence legislation but to no avail. But also as a veteran, I understand the importance of strategic airbases throughout the world. What can I say, I'm conflicted.

    It's real simple. The value of an Armenian life is less than nothing to American leadership. When a nation has nothing that America wants, that nation and its people get swept under the rug. It's frightening. :(

    Now, let there be oil discovered in Armenia...or even Darfour for that matter.
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  • PJ_Lukin
    PJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    Now Bush's true mission is accomplished.........vengance against the man who wanted to kill his father.
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  • Cosmo
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    Nothing says the 'Spirit Of Christmas' and the Celebration of the Birth of Our Saviour like a good old fashioned lynching, right?
    I'm not shedding a tear for Saddam Hussein... but, it just seems sort of sick to me that people of a so-called 'Christian Nation' revel in the barbaric execution so close to the holiest season of the year.
    Now... I'm not a Christian... but, I love and try to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and personally, do not find any glee in death at a time when I am honoring Jesus and His life. It just seems to me... well, I would think that Jesus wouldn't be too cool with it. Fer Christ's sake... the decorations are still up.
    I would imagine it would be different if it were done closer to Groundhog Day or something. Somehow... to me... Christmas celebrations and Capital Punishment just ain't a good mix. I guess it's because Christmas reminds me more of Love Thy Enemy than Groundhog Day.
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