Canada 2020

polaris
polaris Posts: 3,527
edited June 2006 in A Moving Train
maybe canadians do understand the climate change crisis - if only we could get real leadership on the issue ... and surferdude - i know yer gonna wanna point to provinces and such ... but that stat on albertans is problematic - if you don't accept there is a problem - you're not gonna wanna fix it ...

anyways - what will canada be like in 2020??

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http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/06/30/canada2020.html

Nearly a quarter of Canadians think global warming will be the single biggest challenge facing the country by the year 2020, according to a poll commissioned by the Dominion Institute as part of an ambitious national project.

What will the weather be like in 2020? (CBC) That was the opinion of 23 per cent of respondents, compared to one in 10 who named health care as the biggest challenge in Canada by that time.

A full 72 per cent of respondents agreed with the statement that "global warming will have become the greatest crisis facing mankind" by 2020. Women were slightly more likely than men to agree with the statement, and only 57 per cent of Albertans polled agreed.

The Innovation Research Group telephone survey, which reached 1,007 adults in mid-June, is considered accurate to within plus or minus 3.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.

Other findings:

23 per cent believe Quebec will have separated from the rest of Canada 14 years from now, with 31 per cent of Quebecers polled holding that position.
78 per cent of respondents thought the gap between rich and poor Canadians will have widened.
63 per cent agreed with the statement that "Canada will be a more tolerant and caring society."
68 per cent agreed that "energy conservation and new technologies will have made the environment better."
70 per cent disagreed with the statement that "global terrorism will no longer be a threat to Canadian society."
66 per cent agreed "Canada's influence in international affairs will have increased considerably."
Poll kicks off major project

The poll was conducted as the Dominion Institute prepares to launch a project called Canada in 2020, with CBC as one of its three media partners.

The project is "a four-month public dialogue" designed to get Canadians thinking about what they want the country to look like in 14 years.

"I think now is the time we have to start really thinking and acting on the challenges facing our country in the future," Rudyard Griffiths, executive director of the Dominion Institute, said Friday.

A major part of Canada in 2020 will be the publication on CBC.ca and in the Toronto Star and Montreal's La Presse of a series of 20 opinion pieces by well-known thinkers and writers. The first piece will appear Saturday, July 1.

Other content related to the ideas in the opinion pieces will appear on CBC.ca, as well as on CBC Radio and CBC-TV.

Writers asked to imagine country in 2020

For the newspaper series, the writers were all challenged to produce 2,000-word essays "on a single issue or event that they think could transform Canada by the year 2020."

Another part of the project is an essay contest that offers a prize of $2,020 for the best 800-word entry. Details are available at the Canada in 2020 website, http://www.twenty-twenty.ca.

The Dominion Institute is a non-partisan registered charity established in 1997 "by a group of young professionals concerned about the erosion of a common memory in Canada."

A grant from the Peter Munk Charitable Foundation made the 2020 project possible.
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    to answer your question of how canada i sgoing to look like in 2020. here is my idea. we will look at 2005 summer of gun to be be nothing. there will be even more gun play.

    we will have a bigger gap between the rich and the poor (hence more gun play).

    we will have much more smog alerts.

    quebec will seperate.

    But hey atleast we will be making it harder fro people to smoke
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    polaris wrote:
    maybe canadians do understand the climate change crisis - if only we could get real leadership on the issue ... and surferdude - i know yer gonna wanna point to provinces and such ... but that stat on albertans is problematic - if you don't accept there is a problem - you're not gonna wanna fix it ...

    anyways - what will canada be like in 2020??
    Well asking the average Canadian what the biggest worry will be in 2020 seems like a joke and extremely unscientific. These are the same people who made gay marriage a big election issue. The populace will mimic back whatever they see on the news. In the fall of 2001 the number one answer would have been security.

    I'm all for steps taken to reduce greenhouse emissions. I'm not for Kyoto. I'm not for other provinces telling another how to go about their business. I'm waiting to see the NDP ideas put forward to the government, I'd love to see them costed out. Because realistically the NDP is the only party in Canada that seems to have any handle on the environment, but who knows if they've properly costed out their proposals.

    One thing I'd like to see Canada adopt is a type of labelling program that lets a consumer know how hard on the environment the manufacturing and distribution of the good is. I know that this is information that I'd use in making consumer decisions.
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  • world
    world Posts: 266
    Nobody cares what Canada thinks.
    Chicago '98, Noblesville '00, East Troy '00, Chicago '00, Champaign '03, Chicago '03, Chicago1 '06, Chicago2 '06, Milwaukee '06, Chicago1 '09, and Chicago2 '09
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    world wrote:
    Nobody cares what Canada thinks.

    then why are you reading a thread that clearly stats Canada in it?
  • world
    world Posts: 266
    fife wrote:
    then why are you reading a thread that clearly stats Canada in it?

    Because im a nobody.
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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Wouldnt a "warm up" be good for Canada? Your arctic beaches and coasts would be prime vacation beaches. :)
    Why go home

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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    surferdude wrote:

    I'm all for steps taken to reduce greenhouse emissions. I'm not for Kyoto. I'm not for other provinces telling another how to go about their business. I'm waiting to see the NDP ideas put forward to the government, I'd love to see them costed out. Because realistically the NDP is the only party in Canada that seems to have any handle on the environment, but who knows if they've properly costed out their proposals.

    One thing I'd like to see Canada adopt is a type of labelling program that lets a consumer know how hard on the environment the manufacturing and distribution of the good is. I know that this is information that I'd use in making consumer decisions.

    I agree with all of this, actually. People need to quit using the K-word and start looking at alternatives that actually have some bite. It doesn't work, people, its fundamentally broken. I'll second the notion that the NDP's proposals deserve a closer look.
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    2020?? Good question

    What i'd like is Quebec to separate or at the very least get in the Canadian constitution, back to peace keeping and more intelligent deployment of our troops, maybe have a Trudeau in charge, no violation of any kind of human rights, will have a system like the revenue sharing in the NFL but it will be a country to country thing (rich help the poor), our healthcare system will be fixed (private or public), our education level will be at the top of industrialized nations, more openness to immigration and better integration of immigrants, but more selective and accurate immigration (doctors to be doctors, engineer to be engineer, fill the needs etc.)... of course a lot more...

    Really what i'd want is probably very different than what will happen...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    2020?? Good question

    What i'd like is Quebec to separate or at the very least get in the Canadian constitution, back to peace keeping and more intelligent deployment of our troops, maybe have a Trudeau in charge, no violation of any kind of human rights, will have a system like the revenue sharing in the NFL but it will be a country to country thing (rich help the poor), our healthcare system will be fixed (private or public), our education level will be at the top of industrialized nations, more openness to immigration and better integration of immigrants, but more selective and accurate immigration (doctors to be doctors, engineer to be engineer, fill the needs etc.)... of course a lot more...

    Really what i'd want is probably very different than what will happen...

    Nice response ... Hmmm ... Quebec separating, no ... An agreement that increases the chance that they remain in Canada, check. I am not clear on what "back to peacekeeping" means, but since I support peacekeeping, check. A Trudeau in charge? Check, could be fun (and constructive). I don't think our human rights record is that bad these days, but check. Revenue sharing with other countries? Not without some pretty careful checks and balances. Healthcare fixed? Check. Education at the top, check. More openness to immigration isn't a big issue, I believe, but better integration of immigrants without quashing their own cultural beliefs? Check.

    See, we aren't so different across this country.
    :)
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    Nice response ... Hmmm ... Quebec separating, no ... An agreement that increases the chance that they remain in Canada, check. I am not clear on what "back to peacekeeping" means, but since I support peacekeeping, check. A Trudeau in charge? Check, could be fun (and constructive). I don't think our human rights record is that bad these days, but check. Revenue sharing with other countries? Not without some pretty careful checks and balances. Healthcare fixed? Check. Education at the top, check. More openness to immigration isn't a big issue, I believe, but better integration of immigrants without quashing their own cultural beliefs? Check.

    See, we aren't so different across this country.
    :)

    :)
    Hehe sure, we could all reach out somewhere in the middle, it needs the will of everyone.

    The NFL thing is more a joke, but it's more to say that i'd like Canada to commit to the previously announced .07% sharing with other country, and take a leadership role to make other country also do their parts.
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    The NFL thing is more a joke, but it's more to say that i'd like Canada to commit to the previously announced .07% sharing with other country, and take a leadership role to make other country also do their parts.
    Strongly agree with you here. Just wondering why the reference to a Trudeau in charge. Didn't the last one do enough damage? Wouldn't our second generation Trudeau be just as bad as the second generation Bush? Just a dumber version of the father. That's way too American for me ;)
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    again ... kyoto targets are a joke ... germany is well below the target and many other countries will reach those targets without much of a problem ... the only thing wrong with it is that we and the US aren't doing anything ...

    as the algae moves towards the bc coast and the violent storms continue - we can all harp about supposed economic costs but the cost to the economy will be far worse ...

    great piece by evan soloman on Sunday on cbc on the topic ...
  • Is Quebec seperating itself from Canada a real possiblity? From a great distance I can't see it happening.....
    The wind is blowing cold
    Have we lost our way tonight?
    Have we lost our hope to sorrow?

    Feels like were all alone
    Running further from what’s right
    And there are no more heroes to follow

    So what are we becoming?
    Where did we go wrong?
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    polaris wrote:
    again ... kyoto targets are a joke ... germany is well below the target and many other countries will reach those targets without much of a problem ... the only thing wrong with it is that we and the US aren't doing anything ...

    as the algae moves towards the bc coast and the violent storms continue - we can all harp about supposed economic costs but the cost to the economy will be far worse ...

    great piece by evan soloman on Sunday on cbc on the topic ...

    I think we'll have to wait till a new govt. is in place to see amelirations on the Kyoto objective in Canada, it's up to the provinces now to do something, provinces waiting for Ottawa to move will have to wait a couple of years or more, better start on their own...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Is Quebec seperating itself from Canada a real possiblity? From a great distance I can't see it happening.....

    hard to say ... i think all things being equal - not really but if the rest of the country allows the right to take over, then i think ultimately the sovereignists will have the ammunition to win a referendum ... stephen harper would not be able to convince quebec to vote no ...

    but as long as quebec is not officially part of the constitution - this will always hang over the country ...
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    I think we'll have to wait till a new govt. is in place to see amelirations on the Kyoto objective in Canada, it's up to the provinces now to do something, provinces waiting for Ottawa to move will have to wait a couple of years or more, better start on their own...

    what would be worse is the conservatives taking responsibility for any reductiions there are that are provincial initiatives ... that would make me ill ...
  • polaris wrote:
    hard to say ... i think all things being equal - not really but if the rest of the country allows the right to take over, then i think ultimately the sovereignists will have the ammunition to win a referendum ... stephen harper would not be able to convince quebec to vote no ...

    but as long as quebec is not officially part of the constitution - this will always hang over the country ...

    so explain to me what you mean by quebec is not officially part of the constitution if you will. is it not a full state? is it merely a territory? i don't quite understand....
    The wind is blowing cold
    Have we lost our way tonight?
    Have we lost our hope to sorrow?

    Feels like were all alone
    Running further from what’s right
    And there are no more heroes to follow

    So what are we becoming?
    Where did we go wrong?
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    surferdude wrote:
    Strongly agree with you here. Just wondering why the reference to a Trudeau in charge. Didn't the last one do enough damage? Wouldn't our second generation Trudeau be just as bad as the second generation Bush? Just a dumber version of the father. That's way too American for me ;)

    Damn, now i have you AND reborn in agreement with me ;)

    A Trudeau could be interesting to watch, of course his dad made a lot of damage but one of the Trudeau kid will someday be in politics, that's a prediction more than a wish. Unless you like that Mulroney kids more ;)

    Here's the definition of a nation from the Webster dict. (i took a break for Canada day weekend, break over hehe)

    "A stable, historically developed community of people with a territory, economic life, distinctive culture and language in common."

    To some extent, one could say that the english (as you point out in the other thread) people living in Montreal/Québec could form something like a nation (assuming they're not part of the Canadian nation), Newfoundland could also be labelled as a nation (same assumption). Now it would be up to them to have their voice heard, and in no way, it should be an argument to say that Quebec doesn't form a nation.
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    polaris wrote:
    what would be worse is the conservatives taking responsibility for any reductiions there are that are provincial initiatives ... that would make me ill ...

    wow, i almost wrote that in my previous post "then we shouldn't be surprised if the Cons. step up and take pride in the provinces realisations". Hehe would make me ill as much as you, but i believe it could happen :)
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    so explain to me what you mean by quebec is not officially part of the constitution if you will. is it not a full state? is it merely a territory? i don't quite understand....

    basically, they are a recognized province with the same rights and federal laws as every other province but they haven't signed on to the constitution - in a nutshell - quebec wants to protect certain heritage aspects of the province and want those aspects to be recognized in the constitution however, some other provinces deem it favouritism so negotiations have always been difficult ...