I'd go just to view the people ...

angelica wrote:

Spirituality and science are entirely compatible in reality--they exist in perfect harmony all around us. The incompatibility comes with thought processes that make what is natural and harmonious, incompatible. The conflict within the individual is very different than the conflict inherent to nature, herself.

If you are a good scientist, you work without bias to determine the most logical conclusions and explanations. Spirituality always comes with an inherant bias. You cannot explain anything factually if you are being influenced by personal faith based beliefs because others will have their own spiritual biases. Therefore, we would have no system for verifying, authenticating, or disprooving others work.

I agree you can have a spiritual view of the world, but that is your own interpretation. It is unique and special to you. The real world however works in ways which are set in stone as a series of natural laws. Your own beliefs affect how you view those laws, but do not affect the laws themselves. Science is concerned with understanding those natural laws by detaching yourself from those faith based beliefs.

You can still have spiritual beliefs, but scientists, or should I say 'good' scientists leave those beliefs at home and look at things objectively and seek approval from other scientists to ensure that they are doing so.

I think that this book they're selling in their giftshop says it all:

"What do aliens, dinosaurs and gay marriage have in common? Discover the connection, and how to respond, in this amazing new book from AiG. Bulk discounts available"

I don't know what the answer is, but I'm sure its very scientific and hilarious.

Mookie Baylock wrote:

If you are a good scientist, you work without bias to determine the most logical conclusions and explanations. Spirituality always comes with an inherant bias. You cannot explain anything factually if you are being influenced by personal faith based beliefs because others will have their own spiritual biases. Therefore, we would have no system for verifying, authenticating, or disprooving others work.

I completely understand what you are saying within the confines of science. And I support that and understand the necessity. Science has specific parameters that I applaud.

However, I don't support anyone imposing science on anyone's worldview. These people have not committed to a science view as a worldview, even though they are using some fact. I support people being true to who they are and their beliefs, because frankly that's the only healthy choice. I use facts, logic and I've developed objectivity AND subjectivity, and have integrated them. And I've consistently worked on my own bias. I value science and I use it as a tool, however science does not dictate my beliefs. Science has it's place for me in my life. It gives me maps for understanding aspects of nature. It does not and cannot explain all of reality, for example subjective aspects that rely on experience and interpretation, because by virtue of being subjective, they are beyond the bounds of a scienctific worldview. This is very different than assuming they don't exist.

In human psychological developmental stages, the "objective" science view is one developmental worldview, just like any other. It's not the "correct" one, but rather indicates a level of awareness. Each worldview is valid for those who hold them and I support those differences. These differences are a natural and integrated aspect of our universe.