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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    MakingWaves wrote:

    The steel didn't melt before the towers collapsed. That happened afterward, but just keep on making up stuff so you can keep convincing yourself.


    this is what I thought too. but im no expert. the only way you are going to convince roland however is to produce your own youtube video abuot it. make sure to include the sexy voice over, that is key
  • MakingWaves
    MakingWaves Posts: 1,294
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I just want to know how it was possible for the temperatures (at WTC not some bridge) to have melted the steel at any point in the process.

    NIST says it didn't happen. Why?

    Can you not see that for what it is without all the ..."gee you must be a conspiracy theorist" rhetoric?

    If any steel did melt it would have happened after the collapse while the steel was under intense heat and pressure.
    But I hope that the story of "some bridge" proves to you that steel can be melted by fire, since for some reason you don't think it can be.
    Seeing visions of falling up somehow.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MakingWaves wrote:
    If any steel did melt it would have happened after the collapse while the steel was under intense heat and pressure.
    But I hope that the story of "some bridge" proves to you that steel can be melted by fire, since for some reason you don't think it can be.


    Under perfect conditions it can. In the case of the WTC which is what were talking about...not something else...this condition was not considered a possibility.

    So how did it happen, and why is NIST denying it?

    as well...how is this considered conspiracy? It's factual
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Under perfect conditions it can. In the case of the WTC which is what were talking about...not something else...this condition was not considered a possibility.

    by whom?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    by whom?


    uhhh...NIST?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    uhhh...NIST?

    o so now you accept their findings. only when it fits your agenda huh?
  • MakingWaves
    MakingWaves Posts: 1,294
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Under perfect conditions it can. In the case of the WTC which is what were talking about...not something else...this condition was not considered a possibility.

    So how did it happen, and why is NIST denying it?

    as well...how is this considered conspiracy? It's factual

    So that truck hitting that bridge, bursting into flames and melting the steel was perfect conditions?

    I will admit I don't know what NIST said. I would guess they said that steel didn't melt while the towers were standing or maybe they couldn't find anyone to give them an account of seeing melted steel. Whatever the reason is it doesn't matter. The steel didn't melt while the towers were standing so who cares.
    Seeing visions of falling up somehow.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MakingWaves wrote:
    So that truck hitting that bridge, bursting into flames and melting the steel was perfect conditions?

    I will admit I don't know what NIST said. I would guess they said that steel didn't melt while the towers were standing or maybe they couldn't find anyone to give them an account of seeing melted steel. Whatever the reason is it doesn't matter. The steel didn't melt while the towers were standing so who cares.

    same grade of steel?...same thickness as the WTC was it? really?

    Where is the heat coming from on 9/11 to melt the steel?

    The fire? Well then exactly how is that even possible given the circumstances? There is no explanation...just denials.

    Do you ever think for yourself about stuff, or just do what people tell you on TV all the time?

    Where is this miraculous heat source coming from to melt the steel at the WTC plaza?

    Try to focus. You guys seem to fly tangents on me all the time to other places and other things, as though it were one and the same.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

    Do you ever think for yourself about stuff, or just do what people tell you on TV all the time?

    kinda how you believe everything and anything on youtube?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    kinda how you believe everything and anything on youtube?

    No do you?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    No do you?

    really cuz you only seem to post "factual" sources from youtube. ya know, like your factual documentary of no planes hitting the building. and several other videos made by high school kids.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    this is the most convoluted conspiracy theory i have ever heard in my life. Bush, the illuminati, reincarnated zombie Hitler, aliens or whoever you think really did this could have come up with a much simpler way to start a war.


    christ, you are an idiot if you think it wasn't islamo-fascist terrorists hijacking a plane and flying it into a building.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    MrSmith wrote:
    this is the most convoluted conspiracy theory i have ever heard in my life. Bush, the illuminati, reincarnated zombie Hitler, aliens or whoever you think really did this could have come up with a much simpler way to start a war.


    christ, you are an idiot if you think it wasn't islamo-fascist terrorists hijacking a plane and flying it into a building.

    find the truth man its all out there http://www.youtube.com
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    jlew24asu wrote:
    find the truth man its all out there http://www.youtube.com

    been there done that. my opinion remains the same
  • MakingWaves
    MakingWaves Posts: 1,294
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    same grade of steel?...same thickness as the WTC was it? really?

    Where is the heat coming from on 9/11 to melt the steel?

    The fire? Well then exactly how is that even possible given the circumstances? There is no explanation...just denials.

    Do you ever think for yourself about stuff, or just do what people tell you on TV all the time?

    Where is this miraculous heat source coming from to melt the steel at the WTC plaza?

    Try to focus. You guys seem to fly tangents on me all the time to other places and other things, as though it were one and the same.

    What the hell are you talking about.
    Did you not see the ground smoking for a couple of weeks after the collapse. There were very high temperatures and most importantly in this case very high pressure.
    I do think for myself. I don't have to listen to bullshit on youtube or read some bullshit from some guy trying to make a buck off of people like you from something as terrible as 9/11.
    Seeing visions of falling up somehow.

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    MrSmith wrote:
    been there done that. my opinion remains the same

    good man!!!
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    really cuz you only seem to post "factual" sources from youtube. ya know, like your factual documentary of no planes hitting the building. and several other videos made by high school kids.

    Interesting how you rarely provide facts. Just endless opinion. Your information seems to be self admittedly limited to what you are told on TV. A proudly self proclaimed, and dedicated, Fox news tv viewer. That is something.

    You don't consider anything but that reality, or feel the need to look elsewhere for ideas after the Murdoch seed has been skillfully planted inside your head. Good ol Rupert eh?...he's the man.

    Some people like to look around and see whats going on outside the (idiot) box, and consider alternate viewpoints. Some don't...they like the four fuzzy walls of their comfy box.

    Your mind works comfortably inside that box. It's been conditioned to ...it feels safe there. Stuck in that place....zoomed in to the point of being cross eyed.

    You paint sloppy little angry mosaics of people help soothe yourself.

    I've seen less opinionated divas... :p
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MakingWaves wrote:
    What the hell are you talking about.
    Did you not see the ground smoking for a couple of weeks after the collapse. There were very high temperatures and most importantly in this case very high pressure.
    I do think for myself. I don't have to listen to bullshit on youtube or read some bullshit from some guy trying to make a buck off of people like you from something as terrible as 9/11.


    Oh right NIST denied it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Still no explanation for the melted the steel.

    Anyone care to add anything rather than more opinion and random guesswork?

    Anyone have any factual information to offer?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Still no explanation for the melted the steel.

    Anyone care to add anything rather than more opinion and random guesswork?

    Anyone have any factual information to offer?


    There have been multiple explanations. You've chosen to ignore them.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08

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