U.S. Vetoes of U.N. Resolutions on Behalf of Israel

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  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Here you go...work it out for yourself....

    http://www.un.org/documents/scres.htm

    But the fact that Israel is the main aggressor and most powerful military force in the region which is currently in defiance of over 60 U.N resolutions, I wouldn't be surprised to find that Israel comes on top of the table in the Middle East for violating human rights.
    Your argument is that the whole world, except for the U.S.A, is biased against Israel. Is this the equivalent of saying that anyone who criticises Israel is anti-semitic. You claim that other middle eastern countries haven't been condemned for violating Israeli human rights? So when Nazi Germany was occupying France, for example, should the French resistance have been condemned for violating German human rights?

    no thanks. you take the time to post a LONG 2 post thread and then can't even do a little research to show the other side. also pretty funny how you say they're the "aggressor". huh, the "aggressor" against a TERRORIST organization that has held their own country captive for years. Israel has done absolutely the right thing and the US is right to take up for them against the completely corrupt UN.
  • IndianSummer
    IndianSummer Posts: 854
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I'm not so sure about that. Why don't you research the facts? You've got a computer, so use it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UN_Security_Council#Permanent_members
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MLC2006 wrote:
    no thanks. you take the time to post a LONG 2 post thread and then can't even do a little research to show the other side. also pretty funny how you say they're the "aggressor". huh, the "aggressor" against a TERRORIST organization that has held their own country captive for years. Israel has done absolutely the right thing and the US is right to take up for them against the completely corrupt UN.

    The completely corrupt U.N? How is the U.N corrupt? Why don't you back your statements up with some facts rather than just spouting rubbish? If you took the trouble to read the title of this thread and the articles which I posted then you may learn why the U.N has been corrupted, and by whom. The Israeli and the U.S governments are both pariahs who see themselves as being above the law. The Nazis were no different.
    And as far as 'terrorism' goes, do you not think that the activities of the Israeli military amounts to terrorism? If not, then what is it? I suppose you'd call 38 years of murdering civilians and stealing their land 'self defence', right?

    http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20060405.htm
  • fando y lis
    fando y lis Posts: 32
    Well, the corrupt UN is anti-semetic...
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    fando y lis wrote:
    Well, the corrupt UN is anti-semetic...

    I expected nothing less from you fando y lis than such a laughable comment. I look forward to the day when you actually say something sensible, rather than spouting crap with no facts to support it.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    IndianSummer wrote:
    it has everything to do with the ww2.

    only the winner have veto powers (china too is a winner in that it threw out the "nazi" japanese)

    Repeat after me, Germany has veto powers in the UN security council.
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  • ilana
    ilana Posts: 78
    fando y lis wrote:
    Well, the corrupt UN is anti-semetic...
    damn right the united nothing is antisemitic, i think the fact that israel it always targrtrd for condemnation, when other contrys are doing the same or worse, and no one feels the urge to condemn them, sounds like antsematism to me
  • IndianSummer
    IndianSummer Posts: 854
    mammasan wrote:
    Repeat after me, Germany has veto powers in the UN security council.
    they dont dear. only 5 countries have it. and germany isnt going to get it anytime soon.
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  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    mammasan wrote:
    Repeat after me, Germany has veto powers in the UN security council.

    ok

    Germany has....um er........GREAT BEER...

    sorry couldn't do it...
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    ilana wrote:
    damn right the united nothing is antisemitic, i think the fact that israel it always targrtrd for condemnation, when other contrys are doing the same or worse, and no one feels the urge to condemn them, sounds like antsematism to me

    Where's your evidence? How about some examples? I'm bored with reading these meaningless statements that have no basis in reality, and which have no reference to the facts. There's too much flatulence being spouted on this message board at the moment.
  • SoonForgotten2
    SoonForgotten2 Posts: 2,245
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Where's your evidence? How about some examples? I'm bored with reading these meaningless statements that have no basis in reality, and which have no reference to the facts. There's too much flatulence being spouted on this message board at the moment.

    They're just projecting their own racist hatred of Arabs. Honestly, I couldn't care less about the religious beliefs of either group but Israel's actions over the years have been nothing short of appalling.
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  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    Byrnzie, the only one speaking rubbish in this thread is YOU. all the anti Jew rhetoric and you can't be bothered with the facts of the double standard in the UN that says it's ok for Jews to be killed, but not ok for them to retaliate. that is rubbish.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MLC2006 wrote:
    Byrnzie, the only one speaking rubbish in this thread is YOU. all the anti Jew rhetoric and you can't be bothered with the facts of the double standard in the UN that says it's ok for Jews to be killed, but not ok for them to retaliate. that is rubbish.

    Anti Jew rhetoric?

    Firstly, I am not anti Jew, and if you'd care to produce one piece of evidence to the contrary I'll be grateful. If you take the time to check you'll see that all of my comments regarding Israel are aimed at the Israeli government.

    Also, where is your evidence that the U.N says it's o.k for Jews to be killed?

    Again you have spouted crap that has no basis in reality, and which has no reference to the facts. Why do you keep wasting everyone's time?
  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    half the freaking resolutions that the US vetoed were resolutions basically condoning what the Palestinians are doing, if you'd bother to open your eyes up and read instead of just trying to skew a bunch of numbers to try to fit your agenda. all the garbage you've written in this thread is anti-Jew. you don't want to be seen as an anti-semite, then stop being one.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MLC2006 wrote:
    half the freaking resolutions that the US vetoed were resolutions basically condoning what the Palestinians are doing, if you'd bother to open your eyes up and read instead of just trying to skew a bunch of numbers to try to fit your agenda. all the garbage you've written in this thread is anti-Jew. you don't want to be seen as an anti-semite, then stop being one.

    Really? So a resolution criticising the killing of U.N monitors by the Israel military was a resolution condoning what the Palestinians are doing?
    A resolution criticising the illegal occupation is a resolution condoning what the Palestinians are doing?
    A resolution asking for U.N peacekeepers to go into the West bank is a resolution condoning what the Palestinians are doing?
    And a resolution putting forth a two state settlement is condoning what the Palestinians are doing?
    Again, you make no sense. Why don't you calm down and think before you spout?
    Oh, and someone who criticises the Israeli government and military isn't an anti-semite, just as someone who criticises the Bush Administration isn't anti-American.
  • ilana
    ilana Posts: 78
    Commy wrote:
    Wait just for a sec, lemme see if I can understand where you're coming from. The entire world-that is what the UN represents, a government body representing all of the countries around the world-decides to condemn Israel, what over 30 times...and every time the US vetoes the resolution. It has often been the US and Israel against the ENTIRE world.

    But every single time, for the past 40 years, every country around the world has been wrong and the US and Israel were in the right? interesting idea...
    just becouse you are in a minority doesnt mean you are wrong
    the world at one time was full of idolitry along comes one man abraham proclaims thire to be one G-D, now half the world believe in one G-D
    there was a antisemitic blood liable that the jews need the blood of christian children to bake thire pass over motza, it is falls the jewish faith is the only faith that proclaims that you mumst not consume blood, so you see you can be in a minority and be right
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    ilana wrote:
    just becouse you are in a minority doesnt mean you are wrong
    the world at one time was full of idolitry along comes one man abraham proclaims thire to be one G-D, now half the world believe in one G-D
    there was a antisemitic blood liable that the jews need the blood of christian children to bake thire pass over motza, it is falls the jewish faith is the only faith that proclaims that you mumst not consume blood, so you see you can be in a minority and be right

    So you believe that anyone who criticises the Israeli government is anti-semitic? Strange that. Read this article about the present conflict between Israel and Lebanon. It's written by a Jewish Rabbi and should finally put an end to your spurious claims:

    http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=107&ItemID=10585
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    MLC2006 wrote:
    half the freaking resolutions that the US vetoed were resolutions basically condoning what the Palestinians are doing,

    Can you please produce an example to support your statement?
  • shiraz
    shiraz Posts: 528
    UN was proven to be useless when it comes to hostile situations, and I'm not just talking about the mid east. There are lots of self interests around there, lots of corruption incidents. If you want a proof that the UN is joke, you can find it in Africa, Srebrenica 1995, the latest attacks of Nasaralla on Isreal (the UN troops were sent there in order to help Lebanese army to take control over southeren Lebanon, disarm & dismiss the terrorists groups). You can check out the initial response of Anan to those attacks (NO condemnation to Nasaralla, only to Israel), his response about Hamas shooting missiles on Israeli town of Sderot (NO condemnation), or the latest story about his son involvement in several UN corruptions.

    One more thing: I've noticed lots of you like to rely on Noam Chomsky's words. Well, you have to understand that this is a view of a VERY radical man (who has never lived here), and refering to his articals as the absolute truth or proof to something would be just like relying on words of a right wing extremist - its a bit absurd. If you *really* want to understand what's going on here, try not to turn to a biased info sources.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    shiraz wrote:
    UN was proven to be useless when it comes to hostile situations, and I'm not just talking about the mid east. There are lots of self interests around there, lots of corruption incidents. If you want a proof that the UN is joke, you can find it in Africa, Srebrenica 1995, the latest attacks of Nasaralla on Isreal (the UN troops were sent there in order to help Lebanese army to take control over southeren Lebanon, disarm & dismiss the terrorists groups). You can check out the initial response of Anan to those attacks (NO condemnation to Nasaralla, only to Israel), his response about Hamas shooting missiles on Israeli town of Sderot (NO condemnation), or the latest story about his son involvement in several UN corruptions.

    One more thing: I've noticed lots of you like to rely on Noam Chomsky's words. Well, you have to understand that this is a view of a VERY radical man (who has never lived here), and refering to his articals as the absolute truth or proof to something would be just like relying on words of a right wing extremist - its a bit absurd. If you *really* want to understand what's going on here, try not to turn to a biased info sources.

    And why exactly is the U.N a joke? Which countries in the world have time and again prevented the U.N from acting by vetoing resolutions which it deems harmful to it's interests?
    And if the U.N is such a joke, do you have any solutions, or alternatives to offer? Perhaps a world police organisation headed by the U.S which acts only in accordance with the wishes of the U.S administration and corporations, and which neutralizes anything which stands in it's way - Cuba, Chile, Haiti, Sadaam, Noriega, Gadaafi until he became our friend again - such as a country which becomes too nationalistic and independent, and not subservient to U.S business interests? (Anyone read 'Confessions of an economic hit-man?) Oh wait! We already have that! Shiit! :eek:

    So Noam Chomsky is a VERY radical man? Please supply me with just ONE example of what you mean by this.

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