Bush won't watch Gore movie

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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    don't gimme no wrote:
    Give me as credible a source as Al Gore and have that person make a film backed up with science and fact and then I'll try to answer your question. But remember, I'm an American so it's gotta be entertaining or I won't vote for it.

    Just to ask again, because Im honestly not sure. Is al gore a scientist? Or a meteorologist? Is he even qualified to be a weather man?
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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    chiefojibwa wrote:
    binauralsounds wrote:

    ok, and what did that prove exactly?

    let me say it again...it's a FACT, not ONE peer reviewed article exists refuting the scientific consensus that man is indeed exacerbating the effects of global warming.

    NOT ONE.

    Careful there chief, loads of scientific "facts" have been proved completely inaccurate 20 years later. Keep that in mind. While many "facts" of science have later been 100% refuted. I can't think of anything from the bible that has been 100% PROVED to be wrong.
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  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    PaperPlates wrote:
    I'd be ignorant to not go see this movie? I have PLENTY of places to gain knowledge on the subject of global warming. Computers, library, TV, Radio. How exactly do I end up ignorant because I don't want to see a movie made by a fat-ass loser politician who couldnt beat my high school class president in an election? Why the fuck would anyone WANT to see a movie by him on this topic? Is he a fuckin meteorologist?

    And your post borders on an insult to me. Watch it. I report posts that break the rules faster than anybody. ;)
    Calm yourself. Al Gore is extremely intelligent. If he couldn't beat your class president in an election it's because he's not the best politician. The two don't always go hand-in-hand as we see with our current president.

    I guess I should have been more global in my statement. People who don't find some reliable and sound resource to learn about global warming are ignorant. Is that better?
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    PaperPlates wrote:
    By his logic, or by his definition of ignorant, I guess so. :)
    Well unless I run a certain website called http://www.dictionary.com then it certainly isn't my definition of ignorant.
  • MrBrian
    MrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Now if it was a book I'd understand why Bush would avoid it, but a movie! c'mon Bush, you slacker!
  • sourdough
    sourdough Posts: 579
    PaperPlates wrote:
    chiefojibwa wrote:

    Careful there chief, loads of scientific "facts" have been proved completely inaccurate 20 years later. Keep that in mind. While many "facts" of science have later been 100% refuted. I can't think of anything from the bible that has been 100% PROVED to be wrong.

    So in the last 20 years, what are some examples of scientific theories with this much concensus has been proved wrong?

    I'm not saying that science is always perfect or that we won't find out we were wrong on this or that, that but the science with this one is pretty overwhelming.

    Gore is not a meteorologist. Meteorologists predict WEATHER, what we are discussing is CLIMATE. different things. (and no, gore is not a climatologist, but he does have a very good understanding of it)
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Just to ask again, because Im honestly not sure. Is al gore a scientist? Or a meteorologist? Is he even qualified to be a weather man?
    I don't believe he's a scientist, no. Does one have to be a scientist to present scientific information from the work of scientists? Do I have to be a mathematician to know that 1+1=2? Of course not. With global warming it really is that simple.
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    don't gimme no wrote:
    Calm yourself. Al Gore is extremely intelligent. If he couldn't beat your class president in an election it's because he's not the best politician. The two don't always go hand-in-hand as we see with our current president.

    I guess I should have been more global in my statement. People who don't find some reliable and sound resource to learn about global warming are ignorant. Is that better?


    I guess Ill take your quest for global knowledge bestowed upon us by the uber-intellect Al Gore over your original personal attack. :)
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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    sourdough wrote:
    PaperPlates wrote:

    So in the last 20 years, what are some examples of scientific theories with this much concensus has been proved wrong?

    I'm not saying that science is always perfect or that we won't find out we were wrong on this or that, that but the science with this one is pretty overwhelming.

    Gore is not a meteorologist. Meteorologists predict WEATHER, what we are discussing is CLIMATE. different things. (and no, gore is not a climatologist, but he does have a very good understanding of it)

    Did he gain this understanding of it between losing presidential elections? Or between twinkies? Sorry, but I wouldnt go see a movie on climate change made by al gore, anymore than I would one made by Bush, or by Reagan, or any other president for that matter. That'd be like seeing a movie made about the sanctity of life by Bin Laden. He knows nothing about it.
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  • O-ren Ishii
    O-ren Ishii Posts: 57
    MrBrian wrote:
    Now if it was a book I'd understand why Bush would avoid it, but a movie! c'mon Bush, you slacker!

    Has he ever given any of us reason to think he cares?
    We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. - Ayn Rand
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    PaperPlates wrote:
    I guess Ill take your quest for global knowledge bestowed upon us by the uber-intellect Al Gore over your original personal attack. :)
    It wasn't a personal attack and certainly not on you. I got the impression that the poster refused to even entertain the idea of global warming, thus meeting the definition of ignorance provided below by http://www.dictionary.com :)

    ignorance

    n : the lack of knowledge or education
  • sourdough
    sourdough Posts: 579
    PaperPlates wrote:
    sourdough wrote:

    Did he gain this understanding of it between losing presidential elections? Or between twinkies? Sorry, but I wouldnt go see a movie on climate change made by al gore, anymore than I would one made by Bush, or by Reagan, or any other president for that matter. That'd be like seeing a movie made about the sanctity of life by Bin Laden. He knows nothing about it.

    Without seeing the movie, or reading any of his books, how did you come to the conclusion that he knows nothing about it? He has written books on it before (he wrote a pretty well recieved book published in 1992, well before climate change was a sexy political issue). I would be skeptical too if he presented his own data as his evidence, but he is using facts and data from top scientists and merely echoing what they are saying. I do have some issues with is book (just finished reading the book version of the movie) but overall was quite well informed and well done.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Did he gain this understanding of it between losing presidential elections? Or between twinkies? Sorry, but I wouldnt go see a movie on climate change made by al gore, anymore than I would one made by Bush, or by Reagan, or any other president for that matter. That'd be like seeing a movie made about the sanctity of life by Bin Laden. He knows nothing about it.
    What position are you in to judge who knows what? I'll be honest, making extreme statements like that really hurts the validity of things you say. Al Gore absolutely knows climate change, inside and out. He's given this presentation over a thousand times and has earned the respect of a great deal of humans by doing so.
  • sourdough
    sourdough Posts: 579
    sourdough wrote:
    Did he gain this understanding of it between losing presidential elections? Or between twinkies? Sorry, but I wouldnt go see a movie on climate change made by al gore, anymore than I would one made by Bush, or by Reagan, or any other president for that matter. That'd be like seeing a movie made about the sanctity of life by Bin Laden. He knows nothing about it.

    What the fuck? I didn't say this!
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    sourdough wrote:
    What the fuck? I didn't say this!
    lmao...sorry, both quotes were embedded and it fucked it up....I've fixed it. The funny thing is it's in your own reply too....you might wanna edit that one above.
  • sourdough
    sourdough Posts: 579
    don't gimme no wrote:
    lmao...sorry, both quotes were embedded and it fucked it up....I've fixed it. The funny thing is it's in your own reply too....you might wanna edit that one above.

    I thought I might have been caught up in smear campaign. he he he
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    sourdough wrote:
    I thought I might have been caught up in smear campaign. he he he
    Well you should still edit your post above because it looks like you're having a little argument with yourself and may give others the opportunity to question your sanity :D
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    1) Steven Seagal

    2) final scene: a rapture

    3) a "directed by mel gibson" credit

    4) lotsa scenes with big ol' 'splosions in slow motion and cars flying off cliffs

    5) every gun death must be immediately prefaced by witty banter

    6) speedboat chases, car chases, jet chases, chases in general

    7) fart jokes

    8) a Skynrd-heavy soundtrack

    9) a gorgeous blonde woman who wears skintight leather and never talks

    10) a really funny black sidekick who dies tragically

    9) a bunch of "freedom haters" done get blowed up

    10) an intense yet understated emotional tension between dysfunctional couples reminiscent of early cassavetes films and the classic "who's afraid of virginia woolf?"

    well, maybe the first nine things.


    *applause*
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,294
    Jammin909 wrote:
    His gut tells him it's not a problem...

    Of course, the gut has more nerve endings than the brain. Look it up.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Of course, the gut has more nerve endings than the brain. Look it up.
    It's true, look it up, but not in a book....look it up in your gut.

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