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  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    I might as well try to answer a few questions myself.

    The nen-endings in Finnish surnames date back to 19th century before that everyone was the son or daughter of someone. In english it would be like Michael Peter's son Lisa Erik's daughter after that the names started taking geographical aspects. Like if someone had their house on top of a hill=mäki in the village the family living there would be named hill+nen =Mäkinen and family by the stream=virta or lake=järvi Virtanen and Järvinen and since there are so many lakes and rivers here most common names have something to do with water. Back in the day people didn't much interact outside their own community(village) so everyone knew if you were talking about Virtanen that they ment the ones living in your village eventhough there might have been another Virtanen in the next village. Haven't heard about the reindeer connection.

    Sweden,Denmark,Norway and Iceland still have the son ending and Iceland also daughter(dottir) end in their names: Samuelsson,Pedersen etc.

    With languages people here find Spanish and Italian easier to learn than German,French and even English since the pronounciation is closer to the writing like in Finnish. The Italian language learning tv-show, I think, was organised since there was an old Finnish owned art villa in Italy and the main prize was to go and live there for a year. It was a pretty interesting reality show since it was mostly educational and amazing how fast even old people learned to speak the language pretty well in 1-2 months.

    About where the Finns originally came from, they aren't still exactly sure, but there's definitely more eastern influence than for example in Sweden. Even Jeff Ament said in a recent interview in a Finnish magazine that he saw Asian features on the faces of the people when he was in Helsinki.

    Somebody also mentioned Children of Bodom and i'm not a huge fan of them but still consider Alexi Laiho as one of the best metal guitarist alive today; an example:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsDj2g0C6uE

    kiitoksia tuhannesti! :) apu on aina tervetullutta. :D
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    Badmind wrote:
    hmmm.. sure they must be very beatiful... but you only like blond girls??
    Maybe eMMI can help me understand this... I asked her a few time ago a similiar question...
    But that finnish girl I know once even told me... that her and her friends made some kind of pact to not never in their lives marry any finnish guy...
    She´s always complaining... about finnish guys... saying that most of them are horrible and stuff like that...
    So eMMI do you think that there´s a problem in Finland between finnish girls, and finnish guys??

    sidenote here: not all Finnish girls are blonde! :D

    I don't mean to intrude or sound mean but how old is this girl you know?

    I don't see that much of a problem between Finnish guys and girls.. many of my friends are boys and they're absolutely wonderful - warm, open and polite.
    I suppose that the "quality" of men depends on where you find them and how old they are. and of course they're all individuals and not alike in every way.

    when you go to the bar for example you meet men who are jerks. but not all men are like that. and there are much better places to find your perfect future husbands than a bar!

    as for buying drinks. I don't get that a lot. neither do my (girl)friends. so when it happens I'm usually pleasantly surprised but a bit confused at the same time. but I do let men buy me drinks if they want to. :)
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    csun1966 wrote:
    I have heard the Finnish language is one of the hardest in the world. How true is that statement?

    The reason I am asking is because english is not my first language although I speak it very well. I learned english from a young age. Is Finnish really that difficult?

    well, it's been said before and I think there are a few links in this thread for you to see and find out yourself but yeh, Finnish is really bloody difficult! I mean, I struggle with it sometimes! :confused:
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    Badmind wrote:
    For all of you finnish people out there... here it goes.. a text I found on net about an american guy who lived in Finland for 10 months :

    "Finnish people are supposed to be modest and not talk about themselves. This aspect of the culture is illustrated by the Finnish saying "Modesty makes beautiful". If a Finn is praised a lot, he becomes suspicious and cautious. Emotions run deep in a Finn and do not often come out. Negative emotions are expressed more often than positive ones. It is accepted to feel negatively; when you expect the worse, you cannot be disappointed. (Keltinkangas-Järvinen, 1996.)
    Today urbanisation has broken the sense of collectivism. As people moved to cities, mostly in the 60's and 70's, they tried to continue the habit of joint activities. After the first years it decreased to a minimum. (Kortteinen, 1982.) Today collectivism has changed to individualism.

    The summers are short with near continuous daylight and the winters are cold, dark, and long.
    The climate of Finland plays a major role when talking about lifestyle. The winters last about six months. During my time in Finland, winter arrived in late November and lasted until the end of April.
    It was the coldest weather I have ever experienced in my life. It was so cold that cars had to be plugged in to keep the motor warm to be able to start. Everything was practically frozen. Occasionally, the inside of my nose or my hair would freeze in a matter of seconds while walking to the university or waiting for a bus. It was the first time I really wore a coat, gloves, and scarf in order to keep from freezing to death. Wearing warm clothes and socks were an important factor when it came to staying warm.
    The cold weather brought darkness along with it. Finland's northern position on the earth in relation to the seasonal positioning of the sun is the reason for the cold climate and darkness. This was an interesting sight for me and took me a little time to become adjusted.
    In North Carolina, the sun usually sets in mid-winter at about 4:30 p.m. Some days in Finland enjoy only a few hours of daylight, if you are lucky enough to see the sun at all. Each day loses about four minutes of daylight from June 21 until December 25. During Christmas, the sun rose at 11:00 a.m. and set by 1:00 p.m. The darkness effects people both physically and psychologically. I noticed that as the days got shorter, I slept a little longer and was more tired. It was practically dark all the time. It was a weird feeling thinking it was night at 2:30 in the afternoon. Indoor swimming pools and athletic gyms help people to deal with the darkness by remaining active and exercising. I never knew how wonderful it was to see the sun on a regular basis until the Finnish winter. Many Finnish people experience severe depression during winter months because of the darkness. I think the sun plays an important psychological factor because it gives people more energy and positive thinking.

    Finnish culture is different in many ways from American culture and also a lot alike. People are people no matter what culture they are in and everyone everywhere has their normal, everyday routines. The year I spent in Finland was the most stress free year of my life. It was stress free not because I was in a dreamworld, but because of the culture and lifestyle. The overall impression I got was that the Finnish are "relaxed" people who take time to enjoy normal, everyday life. It was relaxed because of many reasons, but mainly because of the lifestyle of the people.
    First of all, there are very little violence or drug problems if compared to America. It is a peaceful place to live, yielding no fear of being afraid or threatened by normal day things. People really mind their own business and live in a safe manner. The people do not have the same mentality about harming others or stealing from people. Of course, there are exceptions in some cases, but overall it is safe. For example, I was never afraid of walking alone late at night or had any kind of fear of being harmed while in Finland.
    Second, the Finnish lifestyle is not as fast as in America. Americans seem to always be busy or stressed about something, whether it is competition for jobs, appearance, or money and material objects. It appears to me that there is one social class of people in Finland. Everyone is considered equal, and everyone has the opportunity for some type of training or higher education, which is very low cost. Even the Finnish language has one word for he, she, and it (han). It seems as if everyone is equal and begins at the same starting line when it comes to opportunity and jobs.
    Finnish people are also healthier than Americans. Fast food has not been in Finland for a long time. Even so, McDonald's in Finland is like a nice restaurant in America. I think the diet and attitude towards eating healthy is much better. The diet is different in each region, but mostly eaten are various types of breads, fish, reindeer, cow, potatoes, and vegetables.
    Practically every household in Finland has a sauna included with it.
    Finnish language is said to be the second hardest language to speak after Chinese.
    I think Finnish people should be proud of their country for all of its qualities, beauty, and resources."

    thanks for posting that. :) sounds pretty accurate to me.. an interesting read.
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    lol. thanks all you guys going on about how beautiful Finnish women are. :D such a nice way to start a day! :D
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • Badmind
    Badmind Posts: 267
    eMMI wrote:
    thanks for posting that. :) sounds pretty accurate to me.. an interesting read.

    You´re very welcome...
    that girl is 17 years old I think....
    And thanks again...for the all answers...
    "Vocês são do caralho" Eddie Vedder : Lisbon, 04/09/2006 - best day of my life
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    Badmind wrote:
    You´re very welcome...
    that girl is 17 years old I think....
    And thanks again...for the all answers...

    right.. well, maybe she hasn't met any nice Finnish guys then..

    no problem. :)
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • Badmind
    Badmind Posts: 267
    eMMI wrote:
    right.. well, maybe she hasn't met any nice Finnish guys then..

    no problem. :)

    Yeah...maybe that´s it...
    By the way.. the finnish girls seem all very nice...
    Judging by you and her... and all the good things other guys say...
    Yeah and your language to me seems like impossible to learn.. lol...jesus... what a strange and difficult language...
    But I gotta say I agree with the other english guy... it´s a shame.. that so many few people remember to visit... scandinavian countries... when they seem wonderfull countries...
    It´s like verybody says that they are amazing countries... but when it comes to visit them... very few are really interisted... such a shame...
    thanks again eMMI
    "Vocês são do caralho" Eddie Vedder : Lisbon, 04/09/2006 - best day of my life
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    Badmind wrote:
    Yeah...maybe that´s it...
    By the way.. the finnish girls seem all very nice...
    Judging by you and her... and all the good things other guys say...
    Yeah and your language to me seems like impossible to learn.. lol...jesus... what a strange and difficult language...
    But I gotta say I agree with the other english guy... it´s a shame.. that so many few people remember to visit... scandinavian countries... when they seem wonderfull countries...
    It´s like verybody says that they are amazing countries... but when it comes to visit them... very few are really interisted... such a shame...
    thanks again eMMI

    well thank you. although of course there are also not-so-nice girls here..

    lol. yeh, Finnish is pretty damn difficult. :p but there was an Australian exchange student in my school last year and when he came he obviously didn't know a word in Finnish but when he left, he gave a speech at the school - in Finnish! :D so I suppose it's possible to learn it. :)

    I suppose you're right. sometimes it seems like the only people to visit here are Chinese, Japanese, Russian or Scandinavian. :eek:
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • csun1966
    csun1966 Posts: 6
    eMMI wrote:
    well thank you. although of course there are also not-so-nice girls here..

    lol. yeh, Finnish is pretty damn difficult. :p but there was an Australian exchange student in my school last year and when he came he obviously didn't know a word in Finnish but when he left, he gave a speech at the school - in Finnish! :D so I suppose it's possible to learn it. :)

    I suppose you're right. sometimes it seems like the only people to visit here are Chinese, Japanese, Russian or Scandinavian. :eek:

    that's interesting. Are there many Japanese people that visit your country? Japan is an excellent country. I visited it last year and I would highly recommend it to anyone who loves to see other places.
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    csun1966 wrote:
    that's interesting. Are there many Japanese people that visit your country? Japan is an excellent country. I visited it last year and I would highly recommend it to anyone who loves to see other places.

    well, I can't really tell.. the only time I've seen them really has been when I've visited Helsinki. :D but apparently we are quite popular amongst the Japanese. don't ask me why though.
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • csun1966
    csun1966 Posts: 6
    For those of you that love to watch ice hockey, here is an interesting fact:

    In last month's Stanley Cup Final between the Edmonton Oilers and Carolina Hurricanes, Edmonton's backup goalie Jussi Markanen recorded a shutout against Carolina by a score of 4-0 in game 6 which I think is both interesting and remarkable. In the end Edmonton did lose the series in the seventh and final game.

    This accomplishment is interesting because it was done by someone from Finland and it is amazing because he wasn't even the starting goalie and on that day he shut down a more talented Carolina team.

    I would also like to know what some of you think about this.
  • Badmind
    Badmind Posts: 267
    Woow.. it´s been a while since anybody posted here something!
    So how´s things going with you, eMMI??
    Everything ok?

    Is it already snowing there??

    Take care

    P.S.
    I know you people there are dying to see PJ, and are really pissed for them not having toured there this year... but hell I think I´m gonna start a thread to bring them back to Portugal again really soon, no way I´ll wait another six years without seeing them again!!! They need to be back.. those two concerts were just...No words to describe it!!! hell just listening to both lisbon boots gives me chills!!
    "Vocês são do caralho" Eddie Vedder : Lisbon, 04/09/2006 - best day of my life
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    Badmind wrote:
    Woow.. it´s been a while since anybody posted here something!
    So how´s things going with you, eMMI??
    Everything ok?

    Is it already snowing there??

    Take care

    P.S.
    I know you people there are dying to see PJ, and are really pissed for them not having toured there this year... but hell I think I´m gonna start a thread to bring them back to Portugal again really soon, no way I´ll wait another six years without seeing them again!!! They need to be back.. those two concerts were just...No words to describe it!!! hell just listening to both lisbon boots gives me chills!!

    it sure has.. I dunno, some people may think that this thread ought to retire but.. lol. well, if someone posts smething, I'll reply. :D

    everything is perfectly fine, thank you for asking. I have a job and am trying the best I can to save some money so I can travel again next summer. :)

    lol. hell no! no snow yet. I'm pretty sure we've got at least a month before the first snow. the leaves haven't even fallen off yet, we've got all the trees in lovely red, orange and yellow costumes. :):)


    yeah, well we're (at least I am) hoping for that UK/Scandinavian tour that has been rumoured about.. I don't actually have any idea how many PJ fans there are in Finland but I know that a few at least (me being on of them :D) got to see Pearl Jam this tour too.
    but yeah, they shouldn't wait too long to get back to Europe! :D
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • parel jam
    parel jam Posts: 7,223
    What's the link with the Finnish language and the Hungarian language? I heard they are pretty much the same...

    How come that those countries are lying pretty far from each other and still have pretty much the same origin of their language?
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  • parel jam
    parel jam Posts: 7,223
    eMMI wrote:
    I suppose you're right. sometimes it seems like the only people to visit here are Chinese, Japanese, Russian or Scandinavian. :eek:

    And me!
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  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    parel jam wrote:
    And me!

    lol. coolness! :D:D
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI
    eMMI Posts: 6,262
    parel jam wrote:
    What's the link with the Finnish language and the Hungarian language? I heard they are pretty much the same...

    How come that those countries are lying pretty far from each other and still have pretty much the same origin of their language?

    did you read what's been posted earlier on this thread? I can't remember what exactly but there's been quite a lot of talk about the stuff you asked.. :o:)

    I'm also gonna take a look and get back to this, ok? :D
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • Badmind
    Badmind Posts: 267
    eMMI wrote:
    it sure has.. I dunno, some people may think that this thread ought to retire but.. lol. well, if someone posts smething, I'll reply. :D

    everything is perfectly fine, thank you for asking. I have a job and am trying the best I can to save some money so I can travel again next summer. :)

    lol. hell no! no snow yet. I'm pretty sure we've got at least a month before the first snow. the leaves haven't even fallen off yet, we've got all the trees in lovely red, orange and yellow costumes. :):)


    yeah, well we're (at least I am) hoping for that UK/Scandinavian tour that has been rumoured about.. I don't actually have any idea how many PJ fans there are in Finland but I know that a few at least (me being on of them :D) got to see Pearl Jam this tour too.
    but yeah, they shouldn't wait too long to get back to Europe! :D

    Hey, you´re welcome!!
    Cool that everything is alright!!
    I thought that it was already snowing there, lol, sorry my bad!
    I really hope that there is gonna be a tour next year, for you people out there(that really deserve it), and cause I´m tired of reading depressing threads about saying this is their last tour!! It just can´t be!! NO WAY!! Sure Ed said in the second lisbon show :"see you in a better world" and he said stuff in USA, like they didn´t know when they were coming back, but he said in several shows "see you next year!"... So it just can´t be their last tour!
    "Vocês são do caralho" Eddie Vedder : Lisbon, 04/09/2006 - best day of my life
  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    csun1966 wrote:
    For those of you that love to watch ice hockey, here is an interesting fact:

    In last month's Stanley Cup Final between the Edmonton Oilers and Carolina Hurricanes, Edmonton's backup goalie Jussi Markanen recorded a shutout against Carolina by a score of 4-0 in game 6 which I think is both interesting and remarkable. In the end Edmonton did lose the series in the seventh and final game.

    This accomplishment is interesting because it was done by someone from Finland and it is amazing because he wasn't even the starting goalie and on that day he shut down a more talented Carolina team.

    I would also like to know what some of you think about this.

    The league leader in shutouts last season was also a Finlander. I think his name is Miikka Kiprusoff or something like that. :) There are tonnes of Finnish players in the NHL right now. Probably the best known Finnish player in the league (other than Kipper) would be Teemu Selanne. I saw him in the sauna last winter and I call him "Tiny Salami" -- haha I kill me. Although he beat me with birch leaves after I called him that. Hope some of you get the birch leaves thing.
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