tonight's debate

beachdweller · October 2008

nothinghead wrote:

I believe so, but I'm not one hundred percent positive.

Obama should have busted Johnbo out on how he lead his republican congress members to adding 100 Billion + in pork to get them to vote for the rescue package.

CHANGEinWAVES · October 2008

i'm ashamed that this is the 2nd to last debate and it turned out this way.... this format sucked and didn't allow the 2 of them to interact enough so we could get a real judge of character...instead we have to rely on comments like "my friend" and bad jokes. I consider myself an Obama supporter, but NEITHER seemed Presidential tonight IMO. :(

Dirtie_Frank · October 2008

beachdweller wrote:

Obama should have busted Johnbo out on how he lead his republican congress members to adding 100 Billion + in pork to get them to vote for the rescue package.

We could have called him, since he did not want to go to DC unless he was needed.

MrBrian · October 2008

Kenny Olav wrote:

very boring debate. i wish William Ayers would have bombed it.

oh shit! haha,

Dirtie_Frank · October 2008

Mathews on NBC is comparing smiles. That is some hard political analysis.

Vince · October 2008

This debate was pointless. If it did anything, it pointed out how boring and out of touch McCain really is.

nothinghead · October 2008

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

Mathews on NBC is comparing smiles. That is some hard political anaylst.

Funny, I switched from that (in disgust at how stupid it was) to Fox News, where they are discussing how the "that one" comment was a stunning, awesome blow that the they expect the GOP to pick up and run with.

The media sucks about as hard as this debate did.

Dirtie_Frank · October 2008

nothinghead wrote:

Funny, I switched from that (in disgust at how stupid it was) to Fox News, where they are discussing how the "that one" comment was a stunning, awesome blow that the they expect the GOP to pick up and run with.

The media sucks about as hard as this debate did.

I think even if you disagree about supporting Obama or McCain, we can all agree on is that these news channels suck.

digster · October 2008

nothinghead wrote:

Funny, I switched from that (in disgust at how stupid it was) to Fox News, where they are discussing how the "that one" comment was a stunning, awesome blow that the they expect the GOP to pick up and run with.

That would be a very, very, very stupid idea. I'm only halfway through so far, but that's been by far McCain's worst moment.

CHANGEinWAVES · October 2008

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

we can all agree on is that these news channels suck.

News coverage in america is a JOKE.:(

nothinghead · October 2008

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

I think even if you disagree about supporting Obama or McCain, we can all agree on is that these news channels suck.

I certainly do. I was just illustrating how bad all the networks were doing...

It's really sad. We're got the first amendment, and not a single network with the balls to make anything of it, nor a public demanding that they at least pretend to.

kenny olav · October 2008

i take back the William Ayers comment. i'd have rather seen the Kool-Aid Man crash thru the wall. it seemed like everyone there was drinking the Kool-Aid anyway.

CHANGEinWAVES · October 2008

Kenny Olav wrote:

i take back the William Ayers comment. i'd have rather seen the Kool-Aid Man crash thru the wall. it seemed like everyone there was drinking the Kool-Aid anyway.

if that was the case it should of been over a hell of a lot earlier!

nothinghead · October 2008

I will say, however, that I am surprised even FoxNews is kind of wondering what the fuck just happened, how McCain managed to do nothing to help his own cause.

That has to be pretty damning news for the Republican party, especially since O'Reilly was really hammering on how McCain needed to really step it up tonight.

(I watch stuff from all over the spectrum. They all suck, but I like to get different kinds of suck in my educational diet, I suppose. Also read BBC's site. Kind of strange that the best domestic coverage is provided by BBC, in my opinion.)

callen · October 2008

OffHeGoes29 wrote:

I know, USSR, China, Vietnam, North Korea, Loas, Cuba.......great examples of quality of life. Even Europe's governments aren't 100% socialist. I'm sorry, I don't want to pay for your doctor. I don't want to pay for anyones bills but mine, I have that right. If People are not going to evenly contribute to the pot, then why do I have to work harder for someone else to enjoy my tax money more then they already are?

The haves have not a fkn clue.

jimed14 · October 2008

nothinghead wrote:

I will say, however, that I am surprised even FoxNews is kind of wondering what the fuck just happened, how McCain managed to do nothing to help his own cause.

That has to be pretty damning news for the Republican party, especially since O'Reilly was really hammering on how McCain needed to really step it up tonight.

(I watch stuff from all over the spectrum. They all suck, but I like to get different kinds of suck in my educational diet, I suppose. Also read BBC's site. Kind of strange that the best domestic coverage is provided by BBC, in my opinion.)

yeah, Fox is indeed stunned ... about his $300b house buyback plan while he's "freezing spending" ... at some point, I wonder if Fox may cut and run from McCain, calling him too liberal.

Of couse, the second sentence out of Sean Hannity's mouth was "Ayers" and "air raiding villigers" ....

man, it may APPEAR to the public that Obama actually won this debate ...

OffHeGoes29 · October 2008

callen wrote:

The haves have not a fkn clue.

Just an opinion....thats it......

But the GI Bill isn't taxable.....so I'll be set for the next 3 years. Then people can live off of my hard work....no problem.

nothinghead · October 2008

jimed14 wrote:

yeah, Fox is indeed stunned ... about his $300b house buyback plan while he's "freezing spending" ... at some point, I wonder if Fox may cut and run from McCain, calling him too liberal.

Of couse, the second sentence out of Sean Hannity's mouth was "Ayers" and "air raiding villigers" ....

man, it may APPEAR to the public that Obama actually won this debate ...

I noticed as soon as it switched over to Hannity, they were discussing things which have been made key to the McCain campaign without recognizing the fact that they didn't come up once tonight (specifically: Ayers).

Regardless of bias, how does one ignore that and not at least say, "hey, um, what the fuck, John? You sort of disappeared on that one..."

Fox's typical reaction non-withstanding (which tends to be 'let's support the republicans no matter what'), it has been the most interesting news cast to me so far. I think it's very telling about the state of McCain's campaign and the trouble it may find itself in.

EDIT: Of course, the Fox viewers still called it 86 to 12 in favor of McCain. Then again, I have my own questions for any network about the people who actually send in text messages to news stations about this shit. When did this turn into American Fucking Idol? Like the election is some sort of 'reality tv' program...

EDIT 2: MSNBC has pretty much the same numbers...in the other direction. There's no way either candidate did well enough to convince eighty-five percent of anyone that they should clearly and without question be President based on that debate. McCain did nothing but alienate the base with his $300B buy-out-loans plan, while, on the other hand, Obama did nothing at all.

vduboise · October 2008

did you notice- that McCain still did not look at Obama.

He did look at the people who asked the questions...
Again, that level of respect is not there. On another thread, it was said that these people have to work together after the elections.
It looks like things will be same old same once the elections are over- the separation of the parties, and no communication, and no forward movement for this government.

beachdweller · October 2008

foxnews.com

who won the 2nd presidential debate?

Obama 61%

McCain 39%

tonight's debate

Comments

Categories