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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    most likely there will be no clear winner, which will be a huge win for Obama I think. Anything that doesn't stop Johnbo's slide is an Obama win.
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Obama kills McCain on healthcare ... see this ...

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=305111
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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    John McCain needs to stand still he's like a creepy uncle fester....
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    CHANGEinWAVES wrote:
    Did McCain just refer to Obama as "that one"? :eek:

    He also knows Obama could NEVER go there and he knows he can and not many will even bat an eye. Some may even laugh no respect being shown there.

    However atleast he is taking a look at him tonight.

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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    do the math people, do it now
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    beachdweller wrote:
    most likely there will be no clear winner, which will be a huge win for Obama I think. Anything that doesn't stop Johnbo's slide is an Obama win.

    I've decided there is never a clear winner to these things. Whoever you like coming in, you like coming out.

    They never move the polls at all.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Here's what I don't like about Obama's health plan:

    "If you already have health coverage, you can keep yours ..."

    Well, thanks. I get mine through my company. You think my company is going to continue to pay for health benefits when the government is giving it away for free?

    Uh, no. They are going to see it as a prime way to cut costs, and out it goes.

    So I'm going to end up with some crappy government plan wherein I get to wait in line for six days in order to get my massive head wound sewn up. But, hey, it's free!


    well, it's a recuiting tool for companies ... no doubt, believe me, healthcare is VERY important when looking for a job.
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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    John McCain needs to stand still he's like a creepy uncle fester....

    I was thinking cousin IT without the hair implants, lol
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    beachdweller wrote:
    do the math people, do it now



    "it was my understanding that there would be no math." ;):D
  • stylo17
    stylo17 Posts: 1,001
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    John McCain needs to stand still he's like a creepy uncle fester....

    yessss that's what I was thinking. he needs to stop trying to raise his arms. it just makes his chest wider and is gonna tear a whole in his jacket
    6/11/08 WPB


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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    jimed14 wrote:
    well, it's a recuiting tool for companies ... no doubt, believe me, healthcare is VERY important when looking for a job.

    Except for times of high unemployment ... like now ... where you take what you can get.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    jimed14 wrote:
    well, it's a recuiting tool for companies ... no doubt, believe me, healthcare is VERY important when looking for a job.

    I just realized, I'm 40, and have had 5 jobs in my life, and have never not had healthcare....I can imagine not having it.
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  • CHANGEinWAVES
    CHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    John McCain needs to stand still he's like a creepy uncle fester....
    OMG!!! U are soooo right, my friend!!;)
    "I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    i've had it


    john,


    STOP THE DAMNED WHISTLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    what Obama should say about healthcare and the government, the government managing your healthcard means you get the treatment you need, where under Johnbo's plan, the HMO's can still keep you from getting the care you need because it effects their bottom line.

    If I remember right, medicaid only has a 5% overhead to run, far better than any HMO.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    slightofjeff wrote:
    I know you've predicted a McCain win this whole time ... but there's no way. It's just not happening, as much as I would like for that to happen.

    The country just seems to want a Democrat, any Democrat, in the White House this time around. That seems to be the m.o. in times of bad economy: Throw out whoever is in charge.

    I don't really see anyway McCain wins this election, save Obama -- as the saying goes -- being caught with a dead woman or a live boy.
    You do have to admit the financial strategy of past admin. didn't work.


    we agree on folks doing what they want to do...and see what they want to see, so don't count out McCain.
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  • digster
    digster Posts: 1,293
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Here's what I don't like about Obama's health plan:

    "If you already have health coverage, you can keep yours ..."

    Well, thanks. I get mine through my company. You think my company is going to continue to pay for health benefits when the government is giving it away for free?

    There will be no free government health care under Obama's plan:

    http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

    "Establish a National Health Insurance Exchange with a range of private insurance options as well as a new public plan based on benefits available to members of Congress that will allow individuals and small businesses to buy affordable health coverage."

    You will have the ability to buy an affordable program from the government. It will not be free.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Like how Obama's hogging time
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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    cutback wrote:
    "it was my understanding that there would be no math." ;):D

    can I get that question in writing ahead of time please?
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  • stylo17
    stylo17 Posts: 1,001
    "before we leave that, did we hear the size of the fine? hehe"

    real cute "my friend," real cute.
    6/11/08 WPB


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