Best Huckabee article yet: gay=beastiality, abortion=slavery

Derrick
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edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080118/ts_afp/usvote2008huckabeegay;_ylt=AqTCWgSsnuKItKdP3.6wOUIDW7oF
Huckabee links gay sex to bestiality, abortion to slavery

Fri Jan 18, 2:56 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Republican presidential hopeful and former Baptist pastor Mike Huckabee linked gay sex to bestiality and abortion to slavery in an interview Thursday, explaining why, if elected, he would try to amend the constitution.

"Marriage has ... as long as there's been human history, meant a man and a woman in a relationship for life. Once we change that definition, then where does it go from there?" he asked in an interview with online "Beliefnet" magazine.

"Well, I don't think that's a radical view, to say we're going to affirm marriage. I think the radical view is to say that we're going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal," he added.

"The Bible was not written to be amended. The Constitution was," he said, announcing his intention to amend the document if he were to be elected president in November to ban abortion and establish that life begins at the moment of conception.

Leaving it up to individual states to outlaw abortion within their own borders is not enough, he said.

"That's again the logic of the Civil War -- that slavery could be okay in Georgia but not okay in Massachusetts. Obviously we'd today say, 'Well, that's nonsense. Slavery is wrong, period. It can't be right somewhere and wrong somewhere else.' Same with abortion," Huckabee said.

Huckabee won the Iowa Republican caucuses earlier this month, the first contest in the race for each party's nomination to run for the White House. He is in second place behind Arizona Senator John McCain in opinion polls for Saturday's primaries in South Carolina.
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  • Derrick
    Derrick Posts: 475
    My apologies if this article has already been posted, but aren't you americans supposed to separate religion and state?
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    THe guy's a nutjob.
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  • anotherclone
    anotherclone Posts: 1,688
    He scares me so much.

    If he wins, will probably kill myself.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I'm going to be very upset if it comes down to this guy and hilary. I might even cry
  • Derrick
    Derrick Posts: 475
    About a year ago I liked Hilary. But it seems every time she's opened her mouth I've liked her less and less.
  • This guy's worse than Bush.:eek:
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • This nut has actually turned me into a McCain fan. Even Romney looks like a nice option compared to what Huck is preaching. How can this guy be a legit option in 2008? Is there a chance he actually does well in States outside of the South on Super Tuesday? Hopefully he loses tomorrow so I can stop worrying about this idiot. You think George W has put us in a bad spot. Huckabee is like a great closer in baseball. He'll finish the mess W started and completely close the door on this country ever getting back on track.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I'm going to be very upset if it comes down to this guy and hilary. I might even cry
    no shit......I'll be weeping with you....cause it will proove yet once again how un-enlightened my fellow americans are....
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  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    This guy thinks like probably half the people that live in the south. Maybe that's why I'm not too shocked. He can think whatever he wants about gay marriage and abortion, I don't think it would change anything even if he were to be (gulp) president. Which I don't think he will.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    lastexit78 wrote:
    This nut has actually turned me into a McCain fan. Even Romney looks like a nice option compared to what Huck is preaching. How can this guy be a legit option in 2008? Is there a chance he actually does well in States outside of the South on Super Tuesday? Hopefully he loses tomorrow so I can stop worrying about this idiot. You think George W has put us in a bad spot. Huckabee is like a great closer in baseball. He'll finish the mess W started and completely close the door on this country ever getting back on track.
    Huckabilly legitimizes a large majority of Americans insecurities and weeknesses..and thus has a great shot of winning the republican nomination.....I just hope.....he's called out for the person he is....fk he wants to change the consitution to align with the BIble.....I mean come one already....
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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    I'm going to be very upset if it comes down to this guy and hilary. I might even cry

    For years we've wished and wished for 2009 to come so that we can get rid of Bush in the whitehouse... Your quote above is a great example of "be careful what you wish for"


    In all seriousness though, if this guy gets the nomination, there is NO WAY that any major democrat could lose.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    first off, i want to make it clear that neither huckabee or the republican party will be getting my vote. i would just rather have people read the whole piece and make up their mind rather than take yahoo's news story full of fragmented soundbites and quotes. you also have to take into consideration who is interviewing him.

    in my opinion he definitely stuck his foot in his mouth on the marriage answer, but in full context the abortion answer makes some sort of sense - at least more than the soundbyte answer.

    http://www.beliefnet.com/story/228/story_22873_1.html

    Just to follow up on that question, according to that standard, if the Constitution and its amendments are subject to biblical interpretations, doesn’t that mean it would be subject to biblical argument over what the proper interpretation is? And where does that leave, say, nonbelievers or members of other faiths in a proudly pluralistic like our own when amendments to the Constitution are subject to a biblical interpretation?

    I think that whether someone is a Christian or not, the idea that a human life has dignity and intrinsic worth should be clear enough. I don’t think a person has to be a person of faith to say that once you redefine a human life and say there is a life not worth living, and that we have a right to terminate a human life because of its inconvenience to others in the society. That’s the real issue. That’s the heart of it. It’s not just about being against abortion. It’s really about, Is there is a point at which a human life, because it’s become a burden or inconvenience to others, is an expendable life. And once we’ve made a decision that there is such a time – whether it’s the termination of an unborn child in the womb or whether it’s the termination of an 80-year-old comatose patient -- we’ve already crossed that line. And then the question is, How far and how quickly do we move past that line?

    And the same thing would be true of marriage. Marriage has historically, as long as there’s been human history, meant a man and a woman in a relationship for life. Once we change that definition, then where does it go from there?

    Is it your goal to bring the Constitution into strict conformity with the Bible? Some people would consider that a kind of dangerous undertaking, particularly given the variety of biblical interpretations.

    Well, I don’t think that’s a radical view to say we’re going to affirm marriage. I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal. Again, once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again. I think the radical position is to make a change in what’s been historic.

    Do you think that on issues other than marriage and the life of the unborn that the Constitution should be brought into conformity with the Bible, which is what that quote seemed to suggest?

    No, I was specifically talking about those two issues. Those were the only two issues I spoke about in the speech, and that was the point. I’m not suggesting that we say, “Okay, the Bible says you should tithe, so now in the Constitution we’re going to amend it to say everyone tithes.”

    Those were the two issues that I felt like are talked about in the political realm. I support both the human rights amendment and a marriage amendment, and the reason that I do is because I think we need to codify in our Constitution that which has been acceptable and accepted view of what life and what marriage means. Frankly, if it weren’t being challenged, it wouldn’t be necessary. But it is being challenged. Now you have states that are passing same-sex marriage laws or civil union laws.

    And you also have states that not only practice abortion, but if Roe v. Wade is overturned, we haven’t won the battle. All we’ve done is now we’ve created the logic of the Civil War, which says that the right to the human life is geographical, not moral. I think that’s very problematic. That’s why I think that people like Fred Thompson are dead wrong when he says just leave that up to the states. Well, that’s again the logic of the Civil War – that slavery could be okay in Georgia but not okay in Massachusetts. Obviously we’d today say, “Well, that’s nonsense. Slavery is wrong, period.” It can’t be right somewhere and wrong somewhere else. Same with abortion.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    I'm not from the US but some of you seem to think he really has a shot? Is that serious? Is your country really that fucked up?
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    When a sperm enters an egg it does not a human make...and to thing at that instance the couple cells is a full fledged soul with rights is utterly ridiculous....
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Collin wrote:
    I'm not from the US but some of you seem to think he really has a shot? Is that serious? Is your country really that fucked up?
    read my response above...all about insecurities..about ones beliefs.
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    callen wrote:
    read my response above...all about insecurities..about ones beliefs.

    He wants to bring the Constitution into conformity with the Bible. That's quite frightening.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    callen wrote:
    When a sperm enters an egg it does not a human make...and to thing at that instance the couple cells is a full fledged soul with rights is utterly ridiculous....

    i never said anything to that effect, nor did i state my own personal views on either subject. i was simply posting a link to the whole interview and cutting and pasting the whole questions and answers to the marriage and abortion quotes stated in the yahoo story.
  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    JSBE wrote:
    i never said anything to that effect, nor did i state my own personal views on either subject. i was simply posting a link to the whole interview and cutting and pasting the whole questions and answers to the marriage and abortion quotes stated in the yahoo story.
    oh....sorry...do apologize....
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    callen wrote:
    oh....sorry...do apologize....

    it's ok.
  • MasterFramer
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    jlew24asu wrote:
    I'm going to be very upset if it comes down to this guy and hilary. I might even cry

    I'll take a dirty politician over a religious nut fuck any day... Id like to ask these idiots that believe the Bible word for word about some of the stories in the old testament... some scary incest stories in there amongst others... what do they say about that shit?
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