Dutch cartoonist arrested for "insulting people"
 
            
                
                    farfromglorified                
                
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            farfromglorified wrote:
 What a stupid thing "hate speech" laws are. The guy is arrested for insulting people?One recent cartoon on his Web site caricatured a Christian fundamentalist and Muslim fundamentalist as zombies who met at an anti-gay rally and now wished to marry.
 Sounds like a funny cartoon to me."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080
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            damn shame0
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            10 cops?
 "The spokeswoman for Xtra said police had seized Nekschot's computer, sketches, CDs, DVDs and telephone at the time of his arrest."
 Did he draw with his telephone?
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 and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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            so much for free speech0
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            One recent cartoon on his Web site caricatured a Christian fundamentalist and Muslim fundamentalist as zombies who met at an anti-gay rally and now wished to marry.
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            Don't get me wrong--I'm all for free speech. But, I can understand where the government of the country might be. Should a person's right to say whatever they want be upheld if you live within striking distance of fundamentalist crazies who would, if they could--and they might be able to--not only blow up the "insulting" cartoonist, but a bunch of "uninsulting" people, too? This gets very dicey. Do you want to set your citizenry up with a big target marked on their backs?
 If you can't say what you want, you are being held hostage in a sense. In essence, the crazies have you where they want you...stripped of your rights. But, you should also have a right to live without undue fear for your life beyond a right to say what comes to mind. I just don't know what the answer is here. The US is a bit protected here because of lack of physical proximity in a way that European nations are not.
 I don't know what the best answer is. Whatever it is, I have a feeling it is not a very perfect or even a very good answer.0
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            Coming back to life wrote:One recent cartoon on his Web site caricatured a Christian fundamentalist and Muslim fundamentalist as zombies who met at an anti-gay rally and now wished to marry.
 Top bloke in my book
 Agree, sounds brilliant, but I think the whole gay thing pushed it over the top. Where can I get my 8 x 10 copy?
 Let's face it he got nailed for the gay thing. You know how these folks are about the whole gay issue....yeeesh.... talk about uptight and in denial.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
 and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
 over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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            DixieN wrote:Don't get me wrong--I'm all for free speech. But, I can understand where the government of the country might be. Should a person's right to say whatever they want be upheld if you live within striking distance of fundamentalist crazies who would, if they could--and they might be able to--not only blow up the "insulting" cartoonist, but a bunch of "uninsulting" people, too? This gets very dicey. Do you want to set your citizenry up with a big target marked on their backs?
 If you can't say what you want, you are being held hostage in a sense. In essence, the crazies have you where they want you...stripped of your rights. But, you should also have a right to live without undue fear for your life beyond a right to say what comes to mind. I just don't know what the answer is here. The US is a bit protected here because of lack of physical proximity in a way that European nations are not.
 I don't know what the best answer is. Whatever it is, I have a feeling it is not a very perfect or even a very good answer.
 I really think it's important that they not trade the people's rights for a sense of security.
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