U2's Bono gets owned
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Jeanie wrote:No I was just curious to hear your thoughts. But if you don't want to talk about it that's cool with me. I was just interested in what you had to say, no biggy.Jeanie wrote:Absolutely but would you have a moral dilemma accepting money from an organization at odds to what you are trying to achieve with your non profit organization?0
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cutback wrote:Phew! I thought I was testifying before Congress.
LOL!!!!:D No just a sticky beak!;)
The reason I asked was I think it should be done on a case by case basis. It's a grey area for me.[/quote]
Yep, me too. I was asked a similiar question in an Arts Funding class recently and it has proved to be a bit of dilema for me I guess. Let's face facts it's not like arts funding just grows on trees!NOPE!!!
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Jeanie wrote:LOL!!!!:D No just a sticky beak!;)
The reason I asked was I think it should be done on a case by case basis. It's a grey area for me.
Yep, me too. I was asked a similiar question in an Arts Funding class recently and it has proved to be a bit of dilema for me I guess. Let's face facts it's not like arts funding just grows on trees!0 -
Every time Bono does these charity functions he gets enormous press which raises the bands profile so that they can be the 'biggest band in the world' despite the woeful music they release.To say that it isn't commercially beneficial to U2 is laughable.
Donating money anyway is just a waste, you need to empower the people so they can help themsleves.0 -
onelongsong wrote:i'm on the fence there. should people give because he's a celebrity or because it's helping kids? i know what motivates alice. i'm not sure what motivates bono. i've known people who take money from their companies and donate in their name just so the public thinks they are great people. i've seen others donate directly from the company because the cause is greater than the glory.
a friend in fla called alice a washed up alcoholic has-been; yet in phoenix he's almost a hero. i do the things i do because they make me feel good. when i first saw (my girl) 7 months ago; i saw an emptiness inside her i thought could never be filled. the social workers wanted to lock her up. now she stands tall with her head held high; gets good grades; participates in sports; and everyone that knew her says shes a different person. when i look into her eyes now; i see more thanks then if the whole world sung my name in unisin.
I understand what you're saying, and I agree that Bono comes off as a pompous ass about 90% of the time, but it's a fact that a lot of money and awareness has been raised because of his involvement. I don't doubt that his career has benefitted somewhat (not that U2 really needed a profile boost, they were huge as it was), but I also think he truly believes in what he does. He's not just some guy who shows up for photo ops. From what I've read, everyone who's dealt with him has been pleasantly surprised at the depth of his knowledge, which tells me he's putting a lot more time into this than he'd need to if all he wanted was publicity. He gets plenty of publicity every time he walks out the door, he doesn't need to study third-world economics to get his face in the papers.
I give away a fair amount of money, and I don't talk about it, but that's because it wouldn't do any good. I don't have millions of adoring fans. If I did, and I thought that holding a press conference to announce that hippiemom supports The Innocence Project would boost donations, I would do it."Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 19630 -
hippiemom wrote:First of all, I doubt it matters to the kids WHY people gave, as long as they're getting what they need. Second, I don't think most people give to charities simply because Bono or Ed or Alice Cooper talks about them ... I think that they discover that those charities exist because Bono or Ed or Alice talks about them, and then they give if it's a cause they believe in.
I absolutely agree with you hippiemom. Education and awareness is half the battle.hippiemom wrote:I understand what you're saying, and I agree that Bono comes off as a pompous ass about 90% of the time, but it's a fact that a lot of money and awareness has been raised because of his involvement. I don't doubt that his career has benefitted somewhat (not that U2 really needed a profile boost, they were huge as it was), but I also think he truly believes in what he does. He's not just some guy who shows up for photo ops. From what I've read, everyone who's dealt with him has been pleasantly surprised at the depth of his knowledge, which tells me he's putting a lot more time into this than he'd need to if all he wanted was publicity. He gets plenty of publicity every time he walks out the door, he doesn't need to study third-world economics to get his face in the papers.
I was a huge U2 fan when I was a teenager but they lost me somewhere after Rattle & Hum when they seemed to be attempting world domination and they were everywhere you looked or listened. Sadly I mostly can't stand to look at Bono now. But I have to say that anyone that can get our Deputy PM to consider raising Australia's contribution to eliminating world poverty has got to be a pretty switched on and passionate guy! The fact that Peter Costello was prepared to meet with him to discuss world poverty is nothing short of amazing. And I think that's the important thing about what Bono and U2 are doing. They are speaking to world leaders (in language they understand) about eliminating poverty. Bono seems to have tapped into the fact that simply holding a protest rally achieves nothing in this day and age. He has learned the lingo and is taking this fight directly where it needs to go. To the policy makers! I think using your celebrity to bring about world change is a sad idictment of the world we live in but certainly a very effective one!hippiemom wrote:I give away a fair amount of money, and I don't talk about it, but that's because it wouldn't do any good. I don't have millions of adoring fans. If I did, and I thought that holding a press conference to announce that hippiemom supports The Innocence Project would boost donations, I would do it.
Again with the agreeing with you!;)
You're right, great minds do think alike!;)
oh and just in case you'd managed to reprogramme your subconcious............. every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great................
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hippiemom wrote:First of all, I doubt it matters to the kids WHY people gave, as long as they're getting what they need. Second, I don't think most people give to charities simply because Bono or Ed or Alice Cooper talks about them ... I think that they discover that those charities exist because Bono or Ed or Alice talks about them, and then they give if it's a cause they believe in.
I understand what you're saying, and I agree that Bono comes off as a pompous ass about 90% of the time, but it's a fact that a lot of money and awareness has been raised because of his involvement. I don't doubt that his career has benefitted somewhat (not that U2 really needed a profile boost, they were huge as it was), but I also think he truly believes in what he does. He's not just some guy who shows up for photo ops. From what I've read, everyone who's dealt with him has been pleasantly surprised at the depth of his knowledge, which tells me he's putting a lot more time into this than he'd need to if all he wanted was publicity. He gets plenty of publicity every time he walks out the door, he doesn't need to study third-world economics to get his face in the papers.
I give away a fair amount of money, and I don't talk about it, but that's because it wouldn't do any good. I don't have millions of adoring fans. If I did, and I thought that holding a press conference to announce that hippiemom supports The Innocence Project would boost donations, I would do it.0 -
soulsinging wrote:so what band were you in?
for the love of fucking god almighty, please tell me and Soulsinging what freakin band you were in?????oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.0 -
dunkman1974 wrote:for the love of fucking god almighty, please tell me and Soulsinging what freakin band you were in?????
I think this is it dunkman & soulsinging from back around page 3.onelongsong wrote:A LIGHT IN A SEA OF DARKNESS. most of the money goes to big ofices; new computers; advertising for more donations;................
Know it?NOPE!!!
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Jeanie wrote:I think this is it dunkman & soulsinging from back around page 3.
Know it?
Ahhhhhh, yes..., i think they're a U2 cover band. Don't quite remember, but i think i saw them a couple years back at the state fair. To be honest, i was a little to busy with my funnel cake to really notice."When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."0 -
dunkman1974 wrote:for the love of fucking god almighty, please tell me and Soulsinging what freakin band you were in?????
my years with the band were great years. i enjoyed them and look back with fond memories. then i had a brain aneurysm and the surgery put an end to it. i can still belt out a tune or two but the pressure in my head is too much to handle. i look back at it as a different life time. i'm not the person i was then. self centered i think would be the word. i wouldn't do anything unless there was a profit in it for me. i don't want that person to be confused with who i am now. many on this board know the band and have cds; but they respect that privacy. perhaps if everyone here posted their true identity i'd feel obligated to reviel personal information. the other band members may feel i have tainted the band because of my opinions i state here. it's not fair to them. with a little research at the copyright office; my identity could be found out and my location found also.
on a personal note; i'm embarrassed by the scar on my head. this is a big reason i stay out of the public eye. i hope you can understand this.0 -
maybe if we answered all those phoney nigerian emails theyd have money
i wonder what they do with it
i dont like the idea of suffering people but i think u2 and bono suck and theyre music sucks lately
no, rather give to mercy corp but dont give to red cross
maybe later ill find link for it
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onelongsong wrote:my years with the band were great years. i enjoyed them and look back with fond memories. then i had a brain aneurysm and the surgery put an end to it. i can still belt out a tune or two but the pressure in my head is too much to handle. i look back at it as a different life time. i'm not the person i was then. self centered i think would be the word. i wouldn't do anything unless there was a profit in it for me. i don't want that person to be confused with who i am now. many on this board know the band and have cds; but they respect that privacy. perhaps if everyone here posted their true identity i'd feel obligated to reviel personal information. the other band members may feel i have tainted the band because of my opinions i state here. it's not fair to them. with a little research at the copyright office; my identity could be found out and my location found also.
on a personal note; i'm embarrassed by the scar on my head. this is a big reason i stay out of the public eye. i hope you can understand this.
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onelongsong wrote:my years with the band were great years. i enjoyed them and look back with fond memories. then i had a brain aneurysm and the surgery put an end to it. i can still belt out a tune or two but the pressure in my head is too much to handle. i look back at it as a different life time. i'm not the person i was then. self centered i think would be the word. i wouldn't do anything unless there was a profit in it for me. i don't want that person to be confused with who i am now. many on this board know the band and have cds; but they respect that privacy. perhaps if everyone here posted their true identity i'd feel obligated to reviel personal information. the other band members may feel i have tainted the band because of my opinions i state here. it's not fair to them. with a little research at the copyright office; my identity could be found out and my location found also.
on a personal note; i'm embarrassed by the scar on my head. this is a big reason i stay out of the public eye. i hope you can understand this."Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 19630 -
onelongsong wrote:my years with the band were great years. i enjoyed them and look back with fond memories. then i had a brain aneurysm and the surgery put an end to it. i can still belt out a tune or two but the pressure in my head is too much to handle. i look back at it as a different life time. i'm not the person i was then. self centered i think would be the word. i wouldn't do anything unless there was a profit in it for me. i don't want that person to be confused with who i am now. many on this board know the band and have cds; but they respect that privacy. perhaps if everyone here posted their true identity i'd feel obligated to reviel personal information. the other band members may feel i have tainted the band because of my opinions i state here. it's not fair to them. with a little research at the copyright office; my identity could be found out and my location found also.
on a personal note; i'm embarrassed by the scar on my head. this is a big reason i stay out of the public eye. i hope you can understand this.
bill...?0 -
hippiemom wrote:Bill Berry, is that you?
that was my thought.make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need0 -
I"m certainly no fan of Celebrity liberals, but as far as they go, I've never had a problem with Bono because he seems to be trying to service the better of the world rather than his own stature. What is the harm of somone this famous trying to save the lives of children? None , as far as I can see, at leastI'll keep taking punches
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chopitdown wrote:that was my thought.
It was my first thought when I heard aneurysm, too, but Bill never fronted the band and doesn't belt out the tunes, so I don't think so."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
jeffbr wrote:It was my first thought when I heard aneurysm, too, but Bill never fronted the band and doesn't belt out the tunes, so I don't think so.
good point.make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need0
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