A drunken review of 8 (repost b/c people are dumb)
A drunken review of 8
This is an album I’ve long meant to review appropriately, but just never found the inspiration or will for whatever reason. Well, people, tonight I’m inspired. This is a great album with so much meaning & memories behind it, such a great, fun, transitional time. Fuckin A people, Pearl Jam gave a gem with this one, so let’s crack a beer, because I fuckin’ feel like talkin’ about 8.
LIFE WASTED –. You just got back from Thornton’s with your case of natty, and your buddy’s all like “Dude let’s fuckin DRINK and listen to Pearl Jam!” That is what this song sounds like. The original lyrics were “I’m wasted, I’m wasted, never going to drink shitty microbrew again.” This song jams, rocks, and make me wanna run up to The WawwwlMart and get my herr all did and get a fuckin’ mullet. Great riff, great attitude, and Ed lets out a little laugh before he opens another 40 of Pabst (I read that on the innernetz). 8.5 Fuckin A’s out of 10
WORLDWIDE SUICIDE – This song is hotter than 15 fat bitches in a CRX. The fuckin quintessential song from 8. Starts off with an Edge-like Vertigo-ish riff, and then heads off into big powerchords that coulda been written by Pete Townsend. Minus the child porn, of course. Anyway, yeah, I thought this song was like total YIELD in its feel and that’s cool. Ed sounds like he did a pound of shrooms before these vox and comes off like a 70’s rock star. Catchy, instantly memorable, angry but feel-good at the same time. Dunno how that works, maybe because I’ve had seven natty lights. Time for another. 9 pounds of fried meat out of 10
COMATOSE – This song kicks all kinds of ass. This song kicks so much ass, that my stereo was playing it when I was heading off to work that it threw a beer bottle at me. When I turned around, it was beating the shit outta some small animal. And then it fuckin ate it! I’ll quote my buddy Makul here, this song starts out with a kick ass AC/DC riff, and just when you’re ready for Brian Johnson to start singing about his balls, Vedder hits you with a vocal bitch slap. Plus, Ed talks about breaking the law and shit, and that’s metal. Slam a natty, throw the horns, and yell out a big fuck yeah! The riot act-era band could only dream of writing a song like this. 7 smashed riot act CD’s out of 10
SEVERED HAND – Hahahahha, yes! After many listenings trying to figure out what the fuck this song was about, it became so obvious to me that this song is about going to a little bar in Cross Lanes WV called Bobby’s. Let me tell ya, you ain’t experienced shit until you went to Bobby’s. You smack your ole lady for not scrubbing up your toilets right and leave her on the cement floor, head off to Bobby’s, get all fucked up, see dragons and shit, and then you accidentally chop your hand off (without realizing), and then when walking home you find it later with your wedding ring on. Although awesome, that’s pretty fucked up. That’s what SEVERED HAND is about. 7 wife beaters out of 10.
MARKER IN THE SAND – How did a YIELD song end up on 8? Obviously about the middle east and all that fucked up shit over there, but about how it could be fixed. See, years ago they had natty light there, but this Jewish dude and this Arab dude got pissed off over a game of beer pong. This big holy fight began, and God left the premises, wondering why they wouldn’t just drink the natty and move on ya know? Years later, that case of natty they were drinking was found buried under the sand, unfinished. If they had just drank their natty instead of fighting over dumb shit, then shit woulda been aight. But no. So, Natural Light IS the Marker in the Sand. When you listen to it knowing this, it makes total sense. Seriously. 9 Moses out of 10
PARACHUTES – I’ve always loved this song. Obviously about learning shit from mistakes and moving on. I’ve found that this song sounds best around a campfire (preferably around a hot chick). Alotta folks don’t like this song, but fuck’em. Actually I wouldn’t even do that to ‘em. Fuckers. Somebody threw paper parachutes onstage at the Cincy 06 show, so that alone validates this song. That’s all I have to say about Parachutes. 6.5 boxes of Popeye’s chicken out of 10
UNEMPLOYABLE – I used to fucking HATE this song, I thought it sounded like the same lame-ass shit on riot act. But then I quit smoking crack and realized I was wrong. Great open-air sound, I dug it at the GORGE last year, it fit. For some reason, makes me wanna drink The Beast. The “whoah oh oh ohhhh” chorus sounds like something from a Shania Twain song, but without the booty pants and redneck chick. 5.5 pink slips out of 10
BIG WAVE – What a fun song this is. Fuckin’ A, I wanna get me a big wave too! But since I live in Ohio, I’ll get me a 40 of Natty. This song is alright, it’s fun, but doesn’t make my nipples hard either. At least it ain’t about being a pussy and thumbin my way to someplace, whatever the fuck that means. Also, I doubt this tune would be on the new Megadeth album, but that’s aight. Fuck it. Again a song that the riot act version of this band woulda fucked up b/c it woulda been too much effort. 5 boogie boards out of 10
GONE – If MFC hit RVM from behind and they had a kid, it’d be GONE. Fuckin’ A, this song is great. I can just hear it cruising with the top down. I like the escapism theme that Pearl Jam explores here and there, just driving off with a tune to someplace. It’s kind of like you had a bad day, you leave work to say fuck it, but instead you end up at Bobby’s (see SEVERED HAND). Cool chorus a la IN HIDING (which wasn’t about Bobby’s). Anyway, this song is cool, make me think of the awesome touring year of 2006. 8 Camaros out of 10.
WASTED REPRISE – Ed is still thinking about the shitty microbrews, and how he’s never going back again to buy one. He’s wasted, but never going back again. Cool. I think this song was recorded during a piss break, so that’s cool. Speaking of which….5 natties out of 10.
ARMY RESERVE – Truthfully this tune is too heavy lyrically to talk about in this review. What can you do. I can’t touch this one, so I won’t. I don’t think it fits on the album, a great song, but a downer due to the strong lyrical content, not uplifting like the rest of the album. Yeah I know. I can’t get out of this one so I won’t try, but have a natty, eh? 7 insurgents out of 10
COME BACK – You know what? I like Elvis. I really do, he wrote & sang some classic rock and roll songs, and fuck off if you don’t think so. When they start calling you “The King” 30 years after you die, then go disagree. Until then, no one gives a fuck. Anyway, that’s what this song reminds me of, an Elvis song. And that’s fine. A blues number, nothing totally original, but a good tune to drink beer too. Originality is overrated, a good song is more important. Ed sings it live convincingly, I dig it. Maybe he met her at Bobby’s?
INSIDE JOB – One to sit around and reflect with your buddies about. Good shit, builds to a climax, total McCready. I can still see the Gorge stage when I hear it. This song I think is about not drinking, which is a bit ironic given the review’s context. The tune makes me want the album to not end, to just keep going. Doesn’t sound like Elvis though, and I don’t think it’s about smacking any women around or going to Bobby’s (see SEVERED HAND). Great shit. 8.5 trips to Thornton’s out of 10
So there you have it. This album was a fine return to form. Not YIELD, but some things are just what they are and life and rock and roll evolve and move on. This is an incredible album, an uplifting one, you feel good just listening to it. Much passion, it has. A perfect summer album; may it encourage us all to be a human light again. Or to drink a natty light again.
There you have it.
This is an album I’ve long meant to review appropriately, but just never found the inspiration or will for whatever reason. Well, people, tonight I’m inspired. This is a great album with so much meaning & memories behind it, such a great, fun, transitional time. Fuckin A people, Pearl Jam gave a gem with this one, so let’s crack a beer, because I fuckin’ feel like talkin’ about 8.
LIFE WASTED –. You just got back from Thornton’s with your case of natty, and your buddy’s all like “Dude let’s fuckin DRINK and listen to Pearl Jam!” That is what this song sounds like. The original lyrics were “I’m wasted, I’m wasted, never going to drink shitty microbrew again.” This song jams, rocks, and make me wanna run up to The WawwwlMart and get my herr all did and get a fuckin’ mullet. Great riff, great attitude, and Ed lets out a little laugh before he opens another 40 of Pabst (I read that on the innernetz). 8.5 Fuckin A’s out of 10
WORLDWIDE SUICIDE – This song is hotter than 15 fat bitches in a CRX. The fuckin quintessential song from 8. Starts off with an Edge-like Vertigo-ish riff, and then heads off into big powerchords that coulda been written by Pete Townsend. Minus the child porn, of course. Anyway, yeah, I thought this song was like total YIELD in its feel and that’s cool. Ed sounds like he did a pound of shrooms before these vox and comes off like a 70’s rock star. Catchy, instantly memorable, angry but feel-good at the same time. Dunno how that works, maybe because I’ve had seven natty lights. Time for another. 9 pounds of fried meat out of 10
COMATOSE – This song kicks all kinds of ass. This song kicks so much ass, that my stereo was playing it when I was heading off to work that it threw a beer bottle at me. When I turned around, it was beating the shit outta some small animal. And then it fuckin ate it! I’ll quote my buddy Makul here, this song starts out with a kick ass AC/DC riff, and just when you’re ready for Brian Johnson to start singing about his balls, Vedder hits you with a vocal bitch slap. Plus, Ed talks about breaking the law and shit, and that’s metal. Slam a natty, throw the horns, and yell out a big fuck yeah! The riot act-era band could only dream of writing a song like this. 7 smashed riot act CD’s out of 10
SEVERED HAND – Hahahahha, yes! After many listenings trying to figure out what the fuck this song was about, it became so obvious to me that this song is about going to a little bar in Cross Lanes WV called Bobby’s. Let me tell ya, you ain’t experienced shit until you went to Bobby’s. You smack your ole lady for not scrubbing up your toilets right and leave her on the cement floor, head off to Bobby’s, get all fucked up, see dragons and shit, and then you accidentally chop your hand off (without realizing), and then when walking home you find it later with your wedding ring on. Although awesome, that’s pretty fucked up. That’s what SEVERED HAND is about. 7 wife beaters out of 10.
MARKER IN THE SAND – How did a YIELD song end up on 8? Obviously about the middle east and all that fucked up shit over there, but about how it could be fixed. See, years ago they had natty light there, but this Jewish dude and this Arab dude got pissed off over a game of beer pong. This big holy fight began, and God left the premises, wondering why they wouldn’t just drink the natty and move on ya know? Years later, that case of natty they were drinking was found buried under the sand, unfinished. If they had just drank their natty instead of fighting over dumb shit, then shit woulda been aight. But no. So, Natural Light IS the Marker in the Sand. When you listen to it knowing this, it makes total sense. Seriously. 9 Moses out of 10
PARACHUTES – I’ve always loved this song. Obviously about learning shit from mistakes and moving on. I’ve found that this song sounds best around a campfire (preferably around a hot chick). Alotta folks don’t like this song, but fuck’em. Actually I wouldn’t even do that to ‘em. Fuckers. Somebody threw paper parachutes onstage at the Cincy 06 show, so that alone validates this song. That’s all I have to say about Parachutes. 6.5 boxes of Popeye’s chicken out of 10
UNEMPLOYABLE – I used to fucking HATE this song, I thought it sounded like the same lame-ass shit on riot act. But then I quit smoking crack and realized I was wrong. Great open-air sound, I dug it at the GORGE last year, it fit. For some reason, makes me wanna drink The Beast. The “whoah oh oh ohhhh” chorus sounds like something from a Shania Twain song, but without the booty pants and redneck chick. 5.5 pink slips out of 10
BIG WAVE – What a fun song this is. Fuckin’ A, I wanna get me a big wave too! But since I live in Ohio, I’ll get me a 40 of Natty. This song is alright, it’s fun, but doesn’t make my nipples hard either. At least it ain’t about being a pussy and thumbin my way to someplace, whatever the fuck that means. Also, I doubt this tune would be on the new Megadeth album, but that’s aight. Fuck it. Again a song that the riot act version of this band woulda fucked up b/c it woulda been too much effort. 5 boogie boards out of 10
GONE – If MFC hit RVM from behind and they had a kid, it’d be GONE. Fuckin’ A, this song is great. I can just hear it cruising with the top down. I like the escapism theme that Pearl Jam explores here and there, just driving off with a tune to someplace. It’s kind of like you had a bad day, you leave work to say fuck it, but instead you end up at Bobby’s (see SEVERED HAND). Cool chorus a la IN HIDING (which wasn’t about Bobby’s). Anyway, this song is cool, make me think of the awesome touring year of 2006. 8 Camaros out of 10.
WASTED REPRISE – Ed is still thinking about the shitty microbrews, and how he’s never going back again to buy one. He’s wasted, but never going back again. Cool. I think this song was recorded during a piss break, so that’s cool. Speaking of which….5 natties out of 10.
ARMY RESERVE – Truthfully this tune is too heavy lyrically to talk about in this review. What can you do. I can’t touch this one, so I won’t. I don’t think it fits on the album, a great song, but a downer due to the strong lyrical content, not uplifting like the rest of the album. Yeah I know. I can’t get out of this one so I won’t try, but have a natty, eh? 7 insurgents out of 10
COME BACK – You know what? I like Elvis. I really do, he wrote & sang some classic rock and roll songs, and fuck off if you don’t think so. When they start calling you “The King” 30 years after you die, then go disagree. Until then, no one gives a fuck. Anyway, that’s what this song reminds me of, an Elvis song. And that’s fine. A blues number, nothing totally original, but a good tune to drink beer too. Originality is overrated, a good song is more important. Ed sings it live convincingly, I dig it. Maybe he met her at Bobby’s?
INSIDE JOB – One to sit around and reflect with your buddies about. Good shit, builds to a climax, total McCready. I can still see the Gorge stage when I hear it. This song I think is about not drinking, which is a bit ironic given the review’s context. The tune makes me want the album to not end, to just keep going. Doesn’t sound like Elvis though, and I don’t think it’s about smacking any women around or going to Bobby’s (see SEVERED HAND). Great shit. 8.5 trips to Thornton’s out of 10
So there you have it. This album was a fine return to form. Not YIELD, but some things are just what they are and life and rock and roll evolve and move on. This is an incredible album, an uplifting one, you feel good just listening to it. Much passion, it has. A perfect summer album; may it encourage us all to be a human light again. Or to drink a natty light again.
There you have it.
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the only way to appreciate this review is to be drunk. i'm working on a bottle of whiskey and i think this review is pure genius. or is it genus species?
rock on, mutha fucka!Down the street you can hear her scream youre a disgrace
As she slams the door in his drunken face
And now he stands outside
And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
And his tears fall and burn the garden green0 -
got as far as 'life wasted'.
appears beer isn't strong enough tonite.0 -
whateva im drukn n i dun evn kno wtf 8 is.
stop postting bs n talk liek a man to the world.
thsi thraed is now bout my fav band the daeth cab for cuite! dicsuss!0 -
eedie_vedder1 wrote:whateva im drukn n i dun evn kno wtf 8 is.
stop postting bs n talk liek a man to the world.
thsi thraed is now bout my fav band the daeth cab for cuite! dicsuss!
Wow!Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?0 -
eedie_vedder1 wrote:whateva im drukn n i dun evn kno wtf 8 is.
stop postting bs n talk liek a man to the world.
thsi thraed is now bout my fav band the daeth cab for cuite! dicsuss!
I remember you bitch. Made a crazy ass thread about something...
...I can't remeber but it was late and stuff. Funny shit bro...good times!
[size=+3]Rock on[/size]0 -
fanch75 wrote:A drunken review of 8
This is an album I’ve long meant to review appropriately, but just never found the inspiration or will for whatever reason. Well, people, tonight I’m inspired. This is a great album with so much meaning & memories behind it, such a great, fun, transitional time. Fuckin A people, Pearl Jam gave a gem with this one, so let’s crack a beer, because I fuckin’ feel like talkin’ about 8.
LIFE WASTED –. You just got back from Thornton’s with your case of natty, and your buddy’s all like “Dude let’s fuckin DRINK and listen to Pearl Jam!” That is what this song sounds like. The original lyrics were “I’m wasted, I’m wasted, never going to drink shitty microbrew again.” This song jams, rocks, and make me wanna run up to The WawwwlMart and get my herr all did and get a fuckin’ mullet. Great riff, great attitude, and Ed lets out a little laugh before he opens another 40 of Pabst (I read that on the innernetz). 8.5 Fuckin A’s out of 10
WORLDWIDE SUICIDE – This song is hotter than 15 fat bitches in a CRX. The fuckin quintessential song from 8. Starts off with an Edge-like Vertigo-ish riff, and then heads off into big powerchords that coulda been written by Pete Townsend. Minus the child porn, of course. Anyway, yeah, I thought this song was like total YIELD in its feel and that’s cool. Ed sounds like he did a pound of shrooms before these vox and comes off like a 70’s rock star. Catchy, instantly memorable, angry but feel-good at the same time. Dunno how that works, maybe because I’ve had seven natty lights. Time for another. 9 pounds of fried meat out of 10
COMATOSE – This song kicks all kinds of ass. This song kicks so much ass, that my stereo was playing it when I was heading off to work that it threw a beer bottle at me. When I turned around, it was beating the shit outta some small animal. And then it fuckin ate it! I’ll quote my buddy Makul here, this song starts out with a kick ass AC/DC riff, and just when you’re ready for Brian Johnson to start singing about his balls, Vedder hits you with a vocal bitch slap. Plus, Ed talks about breaking the law and shit, and that’s metal. Slam a natty, throw the horns, and yell out a big fuck yeah! The riot act-era band could only dream of writing a song like this. 7 smashed riot act CD’s out of 10
SEVERED HAND – Hahahahha, yes! After many listenings trying to figure out what the fuck this song was about, it became so obvious to me that this song is about going to a little bar in Cross Lanes WV called Bobby’s. Let me tell ya, you ain’t experienced shit until you went to Bobby’s. You smack your ole lady for not scrubbing up your toilets right and leave her on the cement floor, head off to Bobby’s, get all fucked up, see dragons and shit, and then you accidentally chop your hand off (without realizing), and then when walking home you find it later with your wedding ring on. Although awesome, that’s pretty fucked up. That’s what SEVERED HAND is about. 7 wife beaters out of 10.
MARKER IN THE SAND – How did a YIELD song end up on 8? Obviously about the middle east and all that fucked up shit over there, but about how it could be fixed. See, years ago they had natty light there, but this Jewish dude and this Arab dude got pissed off over a game of beer pong. This big holy fight began, and God left the premises, wondering why they wouldn’t just drink the natty and move on ya know? Years later, that case of natty they were drinking was found buried under the sand, unfinished. If they had just drank their natty instead of fighting over dumb shit, then shit woulda been aight. But no. So, Natural Light IS the Marker in the Sand. When you listen to it knowing this, it makes total sense. Seriously. 9 Moses out of 10
PARACHUTES – I’ve always loved this song. Obviously about learning shit from mistakes and moving on. I’ve found that this song sounds best around a campfire (preferably around a hot chick). Alotta folks don’t like this song, but fuck’em. Actually I wouldn’t even do that to ‘em. Fuckers. Somebody threw paper parachutes onstage at the Cincy 06 show, so that alone validates this song. That’s all I have to say about Parachutes. 6.5 boxes of Popeye’s chicken out of 10
UNEMPLOYABLE – I used to fucking HATE this song, I thought it sounded like the same lame-ass shit on riot act. But then I quit smoking crack and realized I was wrong. Great open-air sound, I dug it at the GORGE last year, it fit. For some reason, makes me wanna drink The Beast. The “whoah oh oh ohhhh” chorus sounds like something from a Shania Twain song, but without the booty pants and redneck chick. 5.5 pink slips out of 10
BIG WAVE – What a fun song this is. Fuckin’ A, I wanna get me a big wave too! But since I live in Ohio, I’ll get me a 40 of Natty. This song is alright, it’s fun, but doesn’t make my nipples hard either. At least it ain’t about being a pussy and thumbin my way to someplace, whatever the fuck that means. Also, I doubt this tune would be on the new Megadeth album, but that’s aight. Fuck it. Again a song that the riot act version of this band woulda fucked up b/c it woulda been too much effort. 5 boogie boards out of 10
GONE – If MFC hit RVM from behind and they had a kid, it’d be GONE. Fuckin’ A, this song is great. I can just hear it cruising with the top down. I like the escapism theme that Pearl Jam explores here and there, just driving off with a tune to someplace. It’s kind of like you had a bad day, you leave work to say fuck it, but instead you end up at Bobby’s (see SEVERED HAND). Cool chorus a la IN HIDING (which wasn’t about Bobby’s). Anyway, this song is cool, make me think of the awesome touring year of 2006. 8 Camaros out of 10.
WASTED REPRISE – Ed is still thinking about the shitty microbrews, and how he’s never going back again to buy one. He’s wasted, but never going back again. Cool. I think this song was recorded during a piss break, so that’s cool. Speaking of which….5 natties out of 10.
ARMY RESERVE – Truthfully this tune is too heavy lyrically to talk about in this review. What can you do. I can’t touch this one, so I won’t. I don’t think it fits on the album, a great song, but a downer due to the strong lyrical content, not uplifting like the rest of the album. Yeah I know. I can’t get out of this one so I won’t try, but have a natty, eh? 7 insurgents out of 10
COME BACK – You know what? I like Elvis. I really do, he wrote & sang some classic rock and roll songs, and fuck off if you don’t think so. When they start calling you “The King” 30 years after you die, then go disagree. Until then, no one gives a fuck. Anyway, that’s what this song reminds me of, an Elvis song. And that’s fine. A blues number, nothing totally original, but a good tune to drink beer too. Originality is overrated, a good song is more important. Ed sings it live convincingly, I dig it. Maybe he met her at Bobby’s?
INSIDE JOB – One to sit around and reflect with your buddies about. Good shit, builds to a climax, total McCready. I can still see the Gorge stage when I hear it. This song I think is about not drinking, which is a bit ironic given the review’s context. The tune makes me want the album to not end, to just keep going. Doesn’t sound like Elvis though, and I don’t think it’s about smacking any women around or going to Bobby’s (see SEVERED HAND). Great shit. 8.5 trips to Thornton’s out of 10
So there you have it. This album was a fine return to form. Not YIELD, but some things are just what they are and life and rock and roll evolve and move on. This is an incredible album, an uplifting one, you feel good just listening to it. Much passion, it has. A perfect summer album; may it encourage us all to be a human light again. Or to drink a natty light again.
There you have it.
All of a sudden, for some unknown reason, I want to dig out some old Kiss records."Hello Oregonians. Hello Washingtonians. Hello Portland..where the fuck are we? We're in Ridgefield!"0 -
I give this review 9 Atlanta pit bulls out of 10.
Nice work again Fanch! I salute a Natty Light to youNERDS!0 -
South of Seattle wrote:I give this review 9 Atlanta pit bulls out of 10.
so, the review is electrocuted and dead? what's good about that?0 -
chikevin wrote:so, the review is electrocuted and dead? what's good about that?
Nope, these were the pit bulls that were adopted by new aspiring dog fighters.NERDS!0 -
South of Seattle wrote:Nope, these were the pit bulls that were adopted by new aspiring dog fighters.
thanks for sharing...0 -
do u remeber the JAMC? lol tickle me sieadlotm n ull nevr nkow0
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that is honestly the first review i've ever read of that album that makes me wanna go listen to it.
and i'm not even drunk.
well maybe.
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Fanch!!!!!!! Rock on!!!!!0
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hilarious review!The less you know, the more you believe.0
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You used the 'd' word dude, you said 'dumb'.
Doofus.'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
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wow I think that was the best review I have ever readOut of the Blue and Into the Black................Uncle Neil Philly 08 here I come!!!!0
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harmless_little_f*** wrote:You used the 'd' word dude, you said 'dumb'.
Doofus.
I thought you read a book about going off-grid and it changed your life? How are you reading this?Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?0 -
fanch75 wrote:I thought you read a book about going off-grid and it changed your life? How are you reading this?
Nice.I am being selective, as we all are, even the best intentioned.
I never said I would go entirely off-grid, just change a few things.
'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'
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fanch75 wrote:I thought you read a book about going off-grid and it changed your life? How are you reading this?
ohhhh snap.... you went there huh son???This is your notice that there is a problem with your signature. Please remove it.
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5/23/2011- An utter embarrassment... ticketing failures too many to list.0 -
always a good read, except you sem to enjoy parachutes, but 6.5 out of 10?? 9.5 and were pretty much in agreement throughout.0
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