tonight's debate

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  • OffHeGoes29
    OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    SoonForgotten2 wrote:
    You do realise that "The United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not have a universal health care system" right? The US is waaaaaaay behind the curve on this. The benefits far out-weigh the cons and guess what, these systems do work.

    I know, USSR, China, Vietnam, North Korea, Loas, Cuba.......great examples of quality of life. Even Europe's governments aren't 100% socialist. I'm sorry, I don't want to pay for your doctor. I don't want to pay for anyones bills but mine, I have that right. If People are not going to evenly contribute to the pot, then why do I have to work harder for someone else to enjoy my tax money more then they already are?
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  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    some chick on Fox just DRILLED McCain for proposing the $300b housing buy back ... "the free market conservative movement just keeled over and sank to the bottom of the ocean" with McCains plan ... "One of my friends is stating he wished he bought a bigger house" ... ha ha
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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    vduboise wrote:
    But McCain's pacing drove me crazy.

    I think McCain was trying to emulate Eddie Murphy's 'Delirious' performance :D
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,236
    CHANGEinWAVES wrote:
    i agree with this...i was hoping to get a more hard hitting debate, where they really addressed the issues. I was hoping to feel like one would be a clear leader, not like I wanted to fall asleep.

    I agree with ya here, I was yawning quite. I'm glad thr Red Sox weren't on tonight.

    Peace
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  • nothinghead
    nothinghead Posts: 270
    beachdweller wrote:
    I think that calling that debate a town hall format debate shows how pitiful our politics are

    +1


    Really, very little to add to that. I'm sure of the six-million questions submitted, that some of them must have been frank and explicit questions regarding serious issues. On the other hand, we got pre-sorted and pre-determined questions that lacked any real immediacy to them.

    Seems like having the audience there was just to give the illusion that the candidates were speaking directly to the people, instead of directly off of their pre-written notes.

    Lame.
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    g under p wrote:
    I agree with ya here, I was yawning quite. I'm glad thr Red Sox weren't on tonight.

    Peace

    but they will be on FRIDAY!!! woo hoo.

    one thing we have to remember ... we have been following this for a while, this may be the first time a lot of people are seeing this
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  • stylo17
    stylo17 Posts: 1,001
    does anyone remember the context in which McCain said "that one" ??
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  • nothinghead
    nothinghead Posts: 270
    jimed14 wrote:
    but they will be on FRIDAY!!! woo hoo.

    one thing we have to remember ... we have been following this for a while, this may be the first time a lot of people are seeing this

    I don't think that has the calming effect you intended.

    If anything, it had quite the opposite, for me anyways.


    edit: either point. i'm a yankees fan. :(
  • CHANGEinWAVES
    CHANGEinWAVES Posts: 10,169
    stylo17 wrote:
    does anyone remember the context in which McCain said "that one" ??
    no because i was just shocked that he said that!....it was like all was a blur around it.
    "I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
  • nothinghead
    nothinghead Posts: 270
    stylo17 wrote:
    does anyone remember the context in which McCain said "that one" ??

    Discussing a bill pushed by Bush and Cheney, he said something like, "I bet you'll be never guess who voted for it [points], 'that one,' I voted against it."
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    I'm going to stop paying my mortgage cuz John McCain will by my house and give me a better rate with my own taxes...

    nice...
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    nothinghead wrote:
    I don't think that has the calming effect you intended.

    If anything, it had quite the opposite, for me anyways.

    I wasn't trying to calm, I firmly beleive too many Americans don't pay attention, and sadly, politicians gear their message to them ... agian, we'll get a 60% turn out ... IF WE'RE LUCKY.
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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    nothinghead wrote:
    Discussing a bill pushed by Bush and Cheney, he said something like, "I bet you'll be never guess who voted for it [points], 'that one,' I voted against it."

    the energy bill this year right?
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  • vduboise
    vduboise Posts: 1,937
    beachdweller wrote:
    I think McCain was trying to emulate Eddie Murphy's 'Delirious' performance :D
    He looked very stiff and I did not feel that he was connecting.

    Also - he was belittling Obama, and going over how Obama did not have experience on foreign affairs. Most of the presidents that we have had- started out with little to no experience-

    and McCain should leave off the experience talk- especially with Palin-
  • nothinghead
    nothinghead Posts: 270
    jimed14 wrote:
    I wasn't trying to calm, I firmly beleive too many Americans don't pay attention, and sadly, politicians gear their message to them ... agian, we'll get a 60% turn out ... IF WE'RE LUCKY.

    ugh, 60 percent. glad you didn't catch me edit at least, haha.
  • kenny olav
    kenny olav Posts: 3,319
    very boring debate. i wish William Ayers would have bombed it.
  • nothinghead
    nothinghead Posts: 270
    beachdweller wrote:
    the energy bill this year right?

    I believe so, but I'm not one hundred percent positive.
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    nothinghead wrote:
    ugh, 60 percent. glad you didn't catch me edit at least, haha.

    ooooh, sorry about the Yanks ... ooops
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  • Dirtie_Frank
    Dirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    nothinghead wrote:
    I believe so, but I'm not one hundred percent positive.

    something to do with energy.
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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    I'm falling for T Boone Pickets, lol

    He's on my tv more than anyone else...ever.

    actually impressed with how many times his ad's run. Even though he will gain financially for following his plan, I think he's doing a good job getting peoples attention and talking. Al Gore and others need to aspire to be in the public eye as much
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