Democrats warn Chavez: Don't bash Bush

Ahnimus wrote:

What a crock of fucking shit!

I swear, some American's have their heads so far up their asses...

So it's ok to criticize the Iraqi regime, the Iranian regime, the Palestinian Authority, etc..

The list of countries Bush has criticized and gone as far as to say they are evil and god instructs him to defeat them. Fuck! How stupid can people be?

Bush is getting what he gives, he is a hipocritical ass tard, I'd cap his ass myself if I believed in that sort of thing.

Chavez can topple the U.S. government for all I care, this shows how truly fucked it is. To all you Americans: you are due for a real rude awakening, you will be knocked off your holier than thou throne made out of bullshit; wake up and smell the coffee, your government is belligerent, hipocritical and stupid

Every time I read about some stupid statements like these I feel like ending my life to secure me from this insanity. Bush is absolutely insane and apparently so are his proponents.

It's called the Fundamental Attribution Error and Selective Memory. Not being an asshat should be one of the presidential requirements.

come again?

You realize in 3 years, you won't have to worry about George Bush anymore...will you obsess about the next GOP president in the same manner?

Ahnimus wrote:

What a crock of fucking shit!

I swear, some American's have their heads so far up their asses...

Lighten up, Francis.

Ahnimus wrote:

Every time I read about some stupid statements like these I feel like ending my life to secure me from this insanity.

That kind of thinking sounds insane to me. Good luck that.

Ahnimus wrote:

It's not about Bush, it's about the attitude all over the U.S.A.

I always try to address it in a respectful manner, but come on, people in other countries really don't give a shit what America thinks. Why should we listen to America and America doesn't listen to anyone? fuck that. The attitude makes me sick.

Speaking in generalities doesn't help anyone. This leads to the contention that we have. Quite frankly, I don't believe the American left and Europe understands reality. From what I can gather, the U.S. is the root of all evil, and when we call out rogue regimes, nobody does anything about it. We don't think you recognize the threat to international stability, and quite frankly, I think it's assinine that you think we are more of a threat to stability compared to Iran or North Korea.

I really don't care if you give a shit what America thinks...It would be nice if you addressed reality though.

Purple Hawk wrote:

Speaking in generalities doesn't help anyone. This leads to the contention that we have. Quite frankly, I don't believe the American left and Europe understands reality. From what I can gather, the U.S. is the root of all evil, and when we call out rogue regimes, nobody does anything about it. We don't think you recognize the threat to international stability, and quite frankly, I think it's assinine that you think we are more of a threat to stability compared to Iran or North Korea.

I really don't care if you give a shit what America thinks...It would be nice if you addressed reality though.

I live in reality, I know how big of a threat we face, I've done the research. America is our biggest threat, wake up!

Ahnimus wrote:

The only nationality of people that successfully piss me off are Americans. I can tolerate other people, but I just feel like smacking some of them and they are damn lucky they don't set foot on this side of the border. That kind of attitude will get a person dead. We got gangs and shit too, only they aren't Americans and won't tolerate that attitude.

My, that sounds awfully intolerant of you and your gangs. Weren't you just critical of Americans for intolerance? Now you're threatening violence.

Wow threats of violence and suicide in one thread. Again, good luck with that.

Purple Hawk wrote:

No you don't. Let's agree to agree.

That statement only serves to provoke me which shows your knowledge and matturity. I don't mean this is a personal attack, I am just pointing out how pointless your comment was other to incite hatred.

Purple Hawk wrote:

Don't take it as a personal attack. My comment was not pointless because we DO disagree...and are very polarized.

It's a great idea to sit around a camp fire and strum guitars, but if you can't agree on some of this stuff..what is the point...but I AM trying.

Oh so you meant "let's agree to disagree" I interpreted "No you don't, let's agree to agree" as if I have to agree with you.

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

"If there's any criticism of President Bush, it should be restricted to Americans, whether they voted for him or not," Rangel said at a Washington news conference.

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Though I've big reservations about Chavez, Rangel's statement is questionable. You can't embark on a neocolonial foreign policy, and deny the rest of the world a critical voice.

However, I wouldn't mind reading this soundbite in its fuller context.

there is only one planet, so there need be one democracy only -- and while i can't defend this proposition with sound forms of definitive-logic, humanity remains fated to war(s) until a singular culture of spiritual-consciousness emerges in earnest,..... "Democracy" supposes that every individual within its [Her] grasp is ensured an equal opportunity to influence the actions and future-effects of a social-state, and Earth has yet to witness such a grandeur -- and the U.S. is wrong is presupposing such a triumph.

i agree with most of what Chavez is quoted as saying by this poster, basically on the grounds that Bush is a liar, a tyrant, and a thief, and anyone with the gumption to oppose him [and 'his america'--(amerika)] is brave, stupid, and justified--and thereby noble; i do however take a deep complaint with the notion that there is something wrong with Georgie as a leader simply because of past issue in alcoholic consumption.

good-night.

Truthmonger wrote:

Well Hippiemom, I guess its just you and me on this particular page. I guess everyone seemed to miss Rangel's glaring statement about where the UN is located - which is completely immaterial. Its considered neutral territory, where peiople from around the globe are allowed, nay expected, to voice their opinions on a host of topics. If Rangel or other Americans can't divest themselves of their nationality when it comes to the neccesary geographical appointment of an international institution, then they shouldn't be allowed to host said institution.

I agree that people should be able to voice their upsets and opinions about the world leaders.

(But I also believe that the pot calling the kettle black is unnecessary)

"You don't come into my country; you don't come into my congressional district and you don't condemn my president," Rep. Charles Rangel, D-New York, scolded Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.


I'll start with this. I dare ask would Bush show up in a hostile environment better yet open his yap and preach to the crowd? Move the UN to Iraq and then everybody can show up and beef and nobody will complain.


"If there's any criticism of President Bush, it should be restricted to Americans, whether they voted for him or not," Rangel said at a Washington news conference.


I think the statement should read, like a smart american that we know some of you may be. "I know we have American forces all around the world and those people should be entitled to say what they want about our abuse of power. But what should I expect from somebody in power in the US. When an American does criticize Bush they are not patriotic enough. Or are bad. This person should remove their rosy glasses after they get their head out of their ass and see the world for what it really is.