Nader: Obama 'talking white'

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    VictoryGin wrote:
    frankly i'm not sure what his point actually was.

    and i posted the plan because certain people repeatedly claim obama doesn't provide plans and details. so above i posted his plan for those communities you and nader are supposedly concerned about. so go ahead and ignore it again.


    I never said Obama didn't have long, wordy plans...but the solutions are usually vague and come off, at least to me, as doublespeak quite often.

    My problem has always been mostly with how Obama's record and actions haven't matched his words.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    In your skewed and cynical mind, that is. ;)


    That post was for you.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    cincybearcat wrote:
    That post was for you.


    Yeah, I know.

    :D
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Comedy gold. I guess Nader should focus on Lebanese American neighborhoods and their problems if he wants to walk the walk.

    This is the first I've heard of Nader in some time - I assumed he had dropped out gracefully from his campaign to focus on investing in the oil and big box companies.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    flywallyfly wrote:
    Comedy gold. I guess Nader should focus on Lebanese American neighborhoods and their problems if he wants to walk the walk.

    This is the first I've heard of Nader in some time - I assumed he had dropped out gracefully from his campaign to focus on investing in the oil and big box companies.


    Try looking beyond your tv sometime...

    http://www.votenader.org/news/
    http://www.votenader.org/media/
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Try looking beyond your tv sometime...

    http://www.votenader.org/news/
    http://www.votenader.org/media/

    Nader has a website? Damn, he is SERIOUS about this campaign. Maybe I'll vote for him if he gives me some of his investing tips.... wait, I guess he doesnt have to tell me....I'll just watch what companies he is talking negatively about and know exactly how he is investing. My guess from the last few months is he is investing heavily in Obama's campaign.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    flywallyfly wrote:
    Nader has a website? Damn, he is SERIOUS about this campaign. Maybe I'll vote for him if he gives me some of his investing tips.... wait, I guess he doesnt have to tell me....I'll just watch what companies he is talking negatively about and know exactly how he is investing. My guess from the last few months is he is investing heavily in Obama's campaign.


    Yep, you've got it all figured out. Good for you!
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Nader/Imus 2008 -- the winning ticket for those voters who dont like black people "talking white".
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Assuming i've got this straight, because Obama is an African-American, Nader says he has to do "the number one thing that a black American politician" should do? according to whom, Ralph? You?
    He's disappointing because he doesn't live up to your stereotype of a "black American politician"?

    Well ralph, i guess that's one way to get media attention. To say i'm disappointed that you would say that is a huge understatement.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Assuming i've got this straight, because Obama is an African-American, Nader says he has to do "the number one thing that a black American politician" should do? according to whom, Ralph? You?
    He's disappointing because he doesn't live up to your stereotype of a "black American politician"?

    Well ralph, i guess that's one way to get media attention. To say i'm disappointed that you would say that is a huge understatement.

    But somehow no disappointment posts about anything Obama has done this past week or ever. Sounds about right.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • thecory
    thecory Posts: 290
    i love Nader but does he want Obama to rap is policies? come on ralphie.
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    But somehow no disappointment posts about anything Obama has done this past week or ever. Sounds about right.
    I don't need to. I have you to do that for me.
  • thecory
    thecory Posts: 290
    well, after reading the quotes I agree w/ ralph's sentiment but I hate the phrase talking white as if black people are sell outs if they don't talk like snoop. stupid choice of words and i hate to say it but ralph deserves all of the heat he gets for this one.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I don't need to. I have you to do that for me.


    I don't speak for anyone but me.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    But somehow no disappointment posts about anything Obama has done this past week or ever. Sounds about right.
    Why are you so eager to jump on me because i spoke out about how i felt about what Ralph said. It was wrong and you know it. I am entitled to speak my mind without a counter attack coming from you.

    You are also wrong about me not being able to express disappointment in Obama. There was a thread in the last week or two about the barring of the two Muslim women from the photo at one of Obama's events. I said it shouldn't have happened and that was offensive and counter to Obama's commitment to bring Americans together. I also said that i would like to see Obama personally address this (because he hadn't), and he should publically apologize.

    Does that count???

    I guess not.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Why are you so eager to jump on me because i spoke out about how i felt about what Ralph said. It was wrong and you know it. I am entitled to speak my mind without a counter attack coming from you.

    I've been replying in this thread. I'm not specifically eager to reply to you but if it makes you feel special, I don't mind if you think that.

    And let me get this straight...you're entitled to speak your mind about what Nader said without me being allowed to speak my mind about what you said. Am I getting this right?

    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    You are also wrong about me not being able to express disappointment in Obama. There was a thread in the last week or two about the barring of the two Muslim women from the photo at one of Obama's events. I said it shouldn't have happened and that was offensive and counter to Obama's commitment to bring Americans together. I also said that i would like to see Obama personally address this (because he hadn't), and he should publically apologize.

    Does that count???

    I guess not.


    That's not even something Obama did himself. But I'll give you half a star for effort alone. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I've been replying in this thread. I'm not specifically eager to reply to you but if it makes you feel special, I don't mind if you think that.

    And let me get this straight...you're entitled to speak your mind about what Nader said without me being allowed to speak my mind about what you said. Am I getting this right?
    I don't need to feel special thank you very much. I didn't ask you to reply to me. I made a comment about being disappointed with ralph. You made the following dig back at me saying 'But somehow no disappointment posts about anything Obama has done this past week or ever. Sounds about right..

    Of course you can speak your mind, but why the hell did you feel need to try and belittle me and say that.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I don't need to feel special thank you very much. I didn't ask you to reply to me. I made a comment about being disappointed with ralph. You made the following dig back at me saying 'But somehow no disappointment posts about anything Obama has done this past week or ever. Sounds about right..

    Of course you can speak your mind, but why the hell did you feel need to try and belittle me and say that.


    There was no attempt to belittle you, at least not at that point. I simply thought it was bullshit to come on here saying how you're so deeply disappointed in Nader for a stupid remark and at the same time not be able to find anything to be deeply disappointed in Obama about.

    I thought it was bullshit so I said so. I'm not going to wait and ask you first before I'm allowed to reply. Did someone pick you to be hall monitor this week and it went to your head?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    There was no attempt to belittle you, at least not at that point. I simply thought it was bullshit to come on here saying how you're so deeply disappointed in Nader for a stupid remark and at the same time not be able to find anything to be deeply disappointed in Obama about.
    So i can only comment on being disappointed on something ralph has done as long as i comment on Obama disappointments as well?
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I thought it was bullshit so I said so. I'm not going to wait and ask you first before I'm allowed to reply. Did someone pick you to be hall monitor this week and it went to your head?
    I think that is an unfair comment abook.
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    So i can only comment on being disappointed on something ralph has done as long as i comment on Obama disappointments as well?

    Nope, say whatever you want. But I can still call it bullshit if I think it is.
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    I think that is an unfair comment abook.

    I thought your 'I didn't ask for you to reply to me' comment was a tad ridiculous....so I ran with that theme.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde

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