Do condoms stop the spread of HIV? McCain: "You've stumped me."

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edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
Incredible. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/16/mccain-stumbles-on-hiv-prevention/
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    "You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception ..."

    LMFAO!!! He needs an aide to tell him what he thinks about contraception! That's priceless :D
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    Stumped... I think he was referring to his member size...
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  • darkcrow
    darkcrow Posts: 1,102
    i think it is a travesty that politicians use religion to condemn millions of people to death. it is a scientific fact that contraception helps to prevent hiv.. there is no other reason than religion to deny people something that could save their lives. maybe someone should call it murder.
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  • enharmonic
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    hippiemom wrote:
    "You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception ..."

    LMFAO!!! He needs an aide to tell him what he thinks about contraception! That's priceless :D

    Yes, Mr. McCain, your position is, you are for...no wait...against...noo...ummm...trying to sort out this last campaign contribution that changed your mind...one sec.

    McCain...how could a guy who in 2000 looked like real hope for this country turn into such a codpiece? :(

    He had my vote in 2000. RNC lost my vote when they embraced W's premeditated war agenda. Now, McCain has gone soft in the noggin.
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  • kkv
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    darkcrow wrote:
    there is no other reason than religion to deny people something that could save their lives. maybe someone should call it murder.

    in my social studies class conservativsme is often refered to as murder, ;-)
    maybe that´s not quite fair though.
    but oppinions like theese cause people to die. as darkcrow mention.

    And actually you would think that something like this would open peoples eyes, or at least weaken conservatives whose argumenst are that leftwingers are dumb and/or immoral. at least we know our own oppinion (;-)) and don´t vote against something that can save innocent lives.
    i mean, how can you honestly get on a podium and tell people that those who wish to save live are the immoral ones, when, at the same time, you are a more or less condeming innocent people to death.
    stuff like this make you wonder if there is even intelligent lifeformes on THIS planet.
  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    enharmonic wrote:
    Yes, Mr. McCain, your position is, you are for...no wait...against...noo...ummm...trying to sort out this last campaign contribution that changed your mind...one sec.

    McCain...how could a guy who in 2000 looked like real hope for this country turn into such a codpiece? :(

    He had my vote in 2000. RNC lost my vote when they embraced W's premeditated war agenda. Now, McCain has gone soft in the noggin.
    Can't you just see a McCain presidency?

    "Brian, could you tell me how I feel about attacking Iran?"

    "Brian, what are my thoughts on Social Security?"

    Maybe Brian should just run himself.
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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    What if Brain quit?!?!? :eek: Johnny-boy wouldn't have any opinions on anything. :)

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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    hippiemom wrote:
    "You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception ..."

    I think that I would vote for this Brian guy before I would vote for McCain at this point... at least it seems like he can remember stuff.

    Just reading this quote that hippiemom wrote before reading the whole transcript, did anyone else picture Peter Griffin asking his dog Brian what he thought about something?

    Maybe I just watch too much Family Guy. :)
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    What a fool.
    you couldn't swing if you were hangin' from a palm tree in a hurricane.
  • Pearl Jam and toast
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    What a tool. It's been said before that there are ENORMOUS problems with our education system and sex ed (or lack thereof) is high on that list.
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  • JaneNY
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    I'm sorry you can't hear my voice shrieking 'What?!!!!!'. Has he been living in a hole? My lord that's dismaying. This is a serious issue and I can't believe he's that ignorant. Or maybe he's not but he was thinking what and how to speak on this as not alienate his evangelical supporters.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    JaneNY wrote:
    I'm sorry you can't hear my voice shrieking 'What?!!!!!'. Has he been living in a hole? My lord that's dismaying. This is a serious issue and I can't believe he's that ignorant. Or maybe he's not but he was thinking what and how to speak on this as not alienate his evangelical supporters.


    exaclty what i thought...everyone, especially at his age, that has at least hit puberty should have a personal opinion of this! it makes it seem like he wasn't sure of what the 'right' answer was


    edit: i don't mean 'right' as in right wing but what polls show the popular opinion to be or the right answer for a certain group of ppl....nevermind
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • blackredyellow
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    El_Kabong wrote:
    exaclty what i thought...everyone, especially at his age, that has at least hit puberty should have a personal opinion of this! it makes it seem like he wasn't sure of what the 'right' answer was

    All he had to do was say that it's obvious that contraceptives prevent HIV, and that he wasn't sure about taxpayer funding going to providing that. I still wouldn't agree with his hesitation on funding it, but an answer like that would have blended in with all the other non-committal answers that all candidates give on most questions.

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    All this does is convince me McCain is only interested in getting elected not wanting to lead. He will do and say whatever it takes to get elected.
  • Milhouse VanHouten
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    hippiemom wrote:
    "You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception ..."

    LMFAO!!! He needs an aide to tell him what he thinks about contraception! That's priceless :D

    Poor Brian. The guy probably has an entire laptop dedicated to archiving McCain's public statments on various issues, indexed according to what audience he was speaking to and what year the question was asked.

    "Brian! Find out if I think puppies are cute, or if I'm more of a cat person!"

    "Brian! I just got a question from the Times! Do I think today is Thursday or Friday? Check my past statements and consult a calendar!"

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    To be honest. I've never heard of contraceptive being a political issue in Canada. In Vancouver B.C. condoms and syringes are handed out to the public to prevent the spread of HIV.

    This must only be a political issue in the United States.
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  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    Ahnimus wrote:
    To be honest. I've never heard of contraceptive being a political issue in Canada. In Vancouver B.C. condoms and syringes are handed out to the public to prevent the spread of HIV.

    This must only be a political issue in the United States.

    That occurs here to an extent, but you're right, it is a controversial topic in the states.
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  • blackredyellow
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    To be honest. I've never heard of contraceptive being a political issue in Canada. In Vancouver B.C. condoms and syringes are handed out to the public to prevent the spread of HIV.

    This must only be a political issue in the United States.

    You crazy Canadians and your common sense and realistic approaches to help prevent the spread of HIV... We would much rather tell you not to do such risky activities and then act surprised when that doesn't work. Then we get to spend millions of dollars on drugs from our pharmaceutical company friends for treatment instead of spending a fraction of that at the beginning to help prevent the virus from spreading.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    this is one of the most powerful politicians in america, and he needs an aide to tell him his position on condoms? give me a fucking break. undeniable proof that this guy is a lame sack of shit. just like 98% of politicians.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    darkcrow wrote:
    i think it is a travesty that politicians use religion to condemn millions of people to death. it is a scientific fact that contraception helps to prevent hiv.. there is no other reason than religion to deny people something that could save their lives. maybe someone should call it murder.

    condoms break; leak; and are only a band-aid to make you feel safer. ask a nurse or EMT about getting a little body fluid on their skin.

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