Best Huckabee article yet: gay=beastiality, abortion=slavery

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I'll take a dirty politician over a religious nut fuck any day... Id like to ask these idiots that believe the Bible word for word about some of the stories in the old testament... some scary incest stories in there amongst others... what do they say about that shit?

    she would be the lesser of the 2 evils I guess
  • JSBE wrote:
    first off, i want to make it clear that neither huckabee or the republican party will be getting my vote. i would just rather have people read the whole piece and make up their mind rather than take yahoo's news story full of fragmented soundbites and quotes. you also have to take into consideration who is interviewing him.

    in my opinion he definitely stuck his foot in his mouth on the marriage answer, but in full context the abortion answer makes some sort of sense - at least more than the soundbyte answer.

    You can't really blame Yahoo for cherrypicking their quotes to fit their agenda when Huckabee did the exact same thing to his precious Bible.
    Huckabee wrote:
    The Bible, however, was not created to be amended and altered with each passing culture [...] The Bible was not written to be amended.

    And yet...
    Huckabee wrote:
    I’m not suggesting that we say, “Okay, the Bible says you should tithe, so now in the Constitution we’re going to amend it to say everyone tithes.”

    I really hope people see through this guy's facade of morality and Christianity. He's just begging at doorstep of every right wing religious nut in America, taking a fundamentalist stand on the topics he knows he can garner votes with.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    You can't really blame Yahoo for cherrypicking their quotes to fit their agenda when Huckabee did the exact same thing to his precious Bible.

    obviously news outlets will cut the exact wording out to make a nice, neat soundbite rather than present the whole quote in the original context.
  • JSBE wrote:
    obviously news outlets will cut the exact wording out to make a nice, neat soundbite rather than present the whole quote in the original context.

    All I'm saying is Huckabee is just as guilty of cutting the bible's message to give him a couple of nice policies for the Christians - same-sex marriage, abortion - without alienating everyone else with tithes.
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    For years we've wished and wished for 2009 to come so that we can get rid of Bush in the whitehouse... Your quote above is a great example of "be careful what you wish for"


    In all seriousness though, if this guy gets the nomination, there is NO WAY that any major democrat could lose.
    He beats Hillary. i guarantee it.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Obama will beat all of them.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    All I'm saying is Huckabee is just as guilty of cutting the bible's message to give him a couple of nice policies for the Christians - same-sex marriage, abortion - without alienating everyone else with tithes.

    yeah, i understand. he's clearly pandering to the people he's trying to get votes from this week - south carolina. next week it will be someone else and a new bag of platforms.
  • t206
    t206 Posts: 63
    Collin wrote:
    I'm not from the US but some of you seem to think he really has a shot? Is that serious? Is your country really that fucked up?
    Ive been asking myself this a lot lately, and I live here.

    The smarter people I know have nothing but distain for Huckabee...he is an absolutel joke, and totally driven by his zealous religious ideas. Same with McCain, he is a nut job who is content with "another 100 years" of war, with total disregard for the fact that we cant afford $9B a month to support it, nor can we afford to keep sending our service men and women over seas to fight these wars only to come home mentally unstable and on a path to homelessness....its f'ing pathetic that these two get ANY votes.
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    I'll take a dirty politician over a religious nut fuck any day... Id like to ask these idiots that believe the Bible word for word about some of the stories in the old testament... some scary incest stories in there amongst others... what do they say about that shit?

    somehow i don't think you'd like to ask a serious question (or at least have a serious conversation) re: those stories.
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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    huckabee has got the unpompous bit down. He comes across as the everyday guy in the debates. He comes off as approachable and fairly likeable. There was another thread that mentioned, if anyone else said these things it'd be political suicidie but since it's mike huckabee it's "ok". the title of the thread is misleading...he didn't say homosexuality = beastiality, he said it leaves the door open for change. I don't agree with Huckabee on a lot of things and prob wouldn't even vote for him (esp if a certain R candidate decided to go back on his word and run as an independent or libertarian).
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    This is the George W. Bush/Karl Rove campaign strategy. Latch on to the 25% who will stick with you, no matter what. Promise to change this nation into a Christian guided (moral) nation and you get the same 25% that approve of George W. Bush (no matter what facts say).
    Then, all you have to do is split the remaining 75% in half. And you know that there will be people who will vote for you based simply on the fact that they hate Hillary so much... or they still don't think we are ready for a black president. Half of 75%... 37.5%... plus your hardcore Christian 25%... 52.5% of the vote. I smell presidency.
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Cosmo wrote:
    This is the George W. Bush/Karl Rove campaign strategy. Latch on to the 25% who will stick with you, no matter what. Promise to change this nation into a Christian guided (moral) nation and you get the same 25% that approve of George W. Bush (no matter what facts say).
    Then, all you have to do is split the remaining 75% in half. And you know that there will be people who will vote for you based simply on the fact that they hate Hillary so much... or they still don't think we are ready for a black president. Half of 75%... 37.5%... plus your hardcore Christian 25%... 52.5% of the vote. I smell presidency.

    I hope you're wrong.
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  • JSBE wrote:
    http://www.beliefnet.com/story/228/story_22873_1.html

    Just to follow up on that question, according to that standard, if the Constitution and its amendments are subject to biblical interpretations, doesn’t that mean it would be subject to biblical argument over what the proper interpretation is? And where does that leave, say, nonbelievers or members of other faiths in a proudly pluralistic like our own when amendments to the Constitution are subject to a biblical interpretation?

    I think that whether someone is a Christian or not, the idea that a human life has dignity and intrinsic worth should be clear enough. I don’t think a person has to be a person of faith to say that once you redefine a human life and say there is a life not worth living, and that we have a right to terminate a human life because of its inconvenience to others in the society. That’s the real issue. That’s the heart of it. It’s not just about being against abortion. It’s really about, Is there is a point at which a human life, because it’s become a burden or inconvenience to others, is an expendable life. And once we’ve made a decision that there is such a time – whether it’s the termination of an unborn child in the womb or whether it’s the termination of an 80-year-old comatose patient -- we’ve already crossed that line. And then the question is, How far and how quickly do we move past that line?
    JSBE wrote:

    Does that mean he will personally take care of every person that he "saves"?
    JSBE wrote:
    And the same thing would be true of marriage. Marriage has historically, as long as there’s been human history, meant a man and a woman in a relationship for life. Once we change that definition, then where does it go from there?
    JSBE wrote:
    Does that mean we go back to the definition of a human as a man that owns forty acres of land? I mean, it was the gold standard.;)
    JSBE wrote:
    Is it your goal to bring the Constitution into strict conformity with the Bible? Some people would consider that a kind of dangerous undertaking, particularly given the variety of biblical interpretations.
    JSBE wrote:
    Well, I don’t think that’s a radical view to say we’re going to affirm marriage. I think the radical view is to say that we’re going to change the definition of marriage so that it can mean two men, two women, a man and three women, a man and a child, a man and animal. Again, once we change the definition, the door is open to change it again. I think the radical position is to make a change in what’s been historic.
    JSBE wrote:
    The fact that he equates consenting adults with children and animals is disgusting. Can we honestly say two men getting married is the same as raping a child. (Since marriage usually leads to consummation.) or screwing a horse? Really? Because i find pedophilia disgusting.
    I don't think anyone can go up to two gay men and say, "see this child? what you are do is as bad as raping him." And that's essentially what he's equating here. I don't think anyone can honestly the two things are the same.
    JSBE wrote:
    Do you think that on issues other than marriage and the life of the unborn that the Constitution should be brought into conformity with the Bible, which is what that quote seemed to suggest?

    No, I was specifically talking about those two issues. Those were the only two issues I spoke about in the speech, and that was the point. I’m not suggesting that we say, “Okay, the Bible says you should tithe, so now in the Constitution we’re going to amend it to say everyone tithes.”
    JSBE wrote:

    The funny thing is, I tithe to the government every time I get paid. :)
    JSBE wrote:
    Those were the two issues that I felt like are talked about in the political realm. I support both the human rights amendment and a marriage amendment, and the reason that I do is because I think we need to codify in our Constitution that which has been acceptable and accepted view of what life and what marriage means. Frankly, if it weren’t being challenged, it wouldn’t be necessary. But it is being challenged. Now you have states that are passing same-sex marriage laws or civil union laws.
    JSBE wrote:
    It sounds like he's another pro-big-government republican.

    And you also have states that not only practice abortion, but if Roe v. Wade is overturned, we haven’t won the battle. All we’ve done is now we’ve created the logic of the Civil War, which says that the right to the human life is geographical, not moral. I think that’s very problematic. That’s why I think that people like Fred Thompson are dead wrong when he says just leave that up to the states. Well, that’s again the logic of the Civil War – that slavery could be okay in Georgia but not okay in Massachusetts. Obviously we’d today say, “Well, that’s nonsense. Slavery is wrong, period.” It can’t be right somewhere and wrong somewhere else. Same with abortion.
    Is the president going to open an orphanage for all of the unwanted children that he's forcing into existence? I'm not saying "yay abortions! let's all get one!" but as long as there aren't other, better options, it's not for me to say whether or not someone should do one thing or another. Laws are meant to protect us, not impose other's wills on us. Maybe i'm wrong?
  • Here is a contrary choice from probably most everyone in the thread... Huckabee has my vote in the primary.
    Oh he fills it up with the love of a girl...
  • Here is a contrary choice from probably most everyone in the thread... Huckabee has my vote in the primary.

    Here's to fundamentalism!
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Here is a contrary choice from probably most everyone in the thread... Huckabee has my vote in the primary.

    Yay for uber-conservatism!
  • anotherclone
    anotherclone Posts: 1,688
    Here is a contrary choice from probably most everyone in the thread... Huckabee has my vote in the primary.

    Care to share the specifics as to why?

    Seriously, I've not met one person that supports him and I'm intrigued what would possess a person to vote for this guy.
  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Care to share the specifics as to why?

    Seriously, I've not met one person that supports him and I'm intrigued what would possess a person to vote for this guy.

    I was going to ask the same question.
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  • Abortion does not equate with slavery.

    It's 1000x worse than slavery.
    So this life is sacrifice...
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  • Collin
    Collin Posts: 4,931
    Abortion does not equate with slavery.

    It's 1000x worse than slavery.

    Don't abort then, make turn those babies into slaves! That way, everyone is happy.


    :D
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