Norwegian Cartoonist tribute to Steve Irwin

OutOfBreath
OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
http://www.start.no/tegneserier/m/?1157580000

Steve Irwin in the eternal indian hunting grounds. I thought it was beautiful.

Peace
Dan
"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    A white buffalo would have been cool........nice work.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • votegirl
    votegirl Posts: 95
    I am not sure that I truly get the point, but my initial reaction to this cartoon is an indicitement of Steve Irwin's supposed' domination over animals.

    The buffalo were almost extinct in the U.S at the turn of the century because the white man was hunting them. The Native People were at a loss for food, and were facing extermination. While the Native People were using the buffalo for survival, the white man was clearly exploiting the species, the land, and the people that depended on them.

    It's sad that Mr. Irwin died, but a guy that capitalized on animals for entertainment and perpetuated the idea that we have 'mastered' wild animals for laughs is not my idea of a hero.
    I burst, out
    I'm transformed!
  • surfanddestroy
    surfanddestroy Posts: 2,786
    votegirl wrote:
    I am not sure that I truly get the point, but my initial reaction to this cartoon is an indicitement of Steve Irwin's supposed' domination over animals.

    The buffalo were almost extinct in the U.S at the turn of the century because the white man was hunting them. The Native People were at a loss for food, and were facing extermination. While the Native People were using the buffalo for survival, the white man was clearly exploiting the species, the land, and the people that depended on them.

    It's sad that Mr. Irwin died, but a guy that capitalized on animals for entertainment and perpetuated the idea that we have 'mastered' wild animals for laughs is not my idea of a hero.

    He actually did a lot of good for animals bu saving them and keeping an eye on them, he never hurt them.
    Astoria 20/04/06, Leeds 25/08/06, Prague 22/09/06, Wembley 18/06/07,
    Dusseldorf 21/06/07, Manchester 17/08/09, London 18/08/09, LA 06/10/09, LA 07/10/09.

    Ain't gonna be any middle anymore.
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    votegirl.
    I read this as Steve Irwin having passed on to "the eternal hunting grounds" (for some reason that's slang in Norwegian picked up from westerns or something). Where he is depicted not hunting the animals (like the stunned indians around him), but just holding one down and exclaiming "crikey, whadda beauty".

    From what I understand Irwin was a staunch defender of animals and intrusion upon their habitats. And he liked getting close and challenging them. On camera, true, but so what?

    I read this as a respectful tribute, where Irwin is depicted doing what he loves in the afterlife as well.

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • votegirl
    votegirl Posts: 95
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    votegirl.
    I read this as Steve Irwin having passed on to "the eternal hunting grounds" (for some reason that's slang in Norwegian picked up from westerns or something). Where he is depicted not hunting the animals (like the stunned indians around him), but just holding one down and exclaiming "crikey, whadda beauty".

    From what I understand Irwin was a staunch defender of animals and intrusion upon their habitats. And he liked getting close and challenging them. On camera, true, but so what?

    I read this as a respectful tribute, where Irwin is depicted doing what he loves in the afterlife as well.

    Peace
    Dan

    I am learning more and more that perception is, indeed, reality.

    Granted, he was considered a conservationist and I applaud him for purchasing land in order to protect animals from losing their habitat to development. There are millions of people and companies that do worse to animals everyday. But that it is an in'escapable' fact that he confined animals against their will and wrestled them into submission. He was the Crocodile "Hunter." Doing this to any animal as form of entertainment, in my opinion is not a way to convey a message of conservation and respect for nature.
    I burst, out
    I'm transformed!
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    votegirl wrote:
    I am learning more and more that perception is, indeed, reality.

    Granted, he was considered a conservationist and I applaud him for purchasing land in order to protect animals from losing their habitat to development. There are millions of people and companies that do worse to animals everyday. But that it is an in'escapable' fact that he confined animals against their will and wrestled them into submission. He was the Crocodile "Hunter." Doing this to any animal as form of entertainment, in my opinion is not a way to convey a message of conservation and respect for nature.

    He wrestled some animals, and made sure that large areas were conserved for them to live on. I call that a fair deal for the animals, even if some of them had to wrestle him for it. Perfect, probably not. More than lots of others? Definitely.

    People with bad sides, aren't necessarily bad people.

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • votegirl
    votegirl Posts: 95
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    People with bad sides, aren't necessarily bad people.

    Peace
    Dan


    Agreed. ;)
    We are all just human.
    I burst, out
    I'm transformed!
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Uh oh ... Did you say Norwegian cartoonist?

    Time to get all offended and start my own cartoon competition ...
    ;)
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Uh oh ... Did you say Norwegian cartoonist?

    Time to get all offended and start my own cartoon competition ...
    ;)

    Uhm.. What? :)
    It's a norwegian cartoonist's drawing, yes.....

    I dont think I got this.... :p

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    Uhm.. What? :)
    It's a norwegian cartoonist's drawing, yes.....

    I dont think I got this.... :p

    Peace
    Dan

    Its wasn't a very good joke, admittedly ... Wasn't the guy who set off the Muslim world with those cartoons from Norway? Or was he Dutch?
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    votegirl wrote:
    I am not sure that I truly get the point, but my initial reaction to this cartoon is an indicitement of Steve Irwin's supposed' domination over animals.

    The buffalo were almost extinct in the U.S at the turn of the century because the white man was hunting them. The Native People were at a loss for food, and were facing extermination. While the Native People were using the buffalo for survival, the white man was clearly exploiting the species, the land, and the people that depended on them.

    It's sad that Mr. Irwin died, but a guy that capitalized on animals for entertainment and perpetuated the idea that we have 'mastered' wild animals for laughs is not my idea of a hero.
    Oddly enough........the species was saved thanks to the efforts of a zoo....the Bronx Zoo.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    tybird wrote:
    Oddly enough........the species was saved thanks to the efforts of a zoo....the Bronx Zoo.


    now's your moment to shine, tybird, you can be the next steve irwin :D
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    I call that a fair deal for the animals, even if some of them had to wrestle him for it.

    Beautifully done.
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Its wasn't a very good joke, admittedly ... Wasn't the guy who set off the Muslim world with those cartoons from Norway? Or was he Dutch?
    Ahhhhh. So that was the angle... :)
    No, it wasn't that good ;)
    And the drawings of controversy were danish, but republished in a norwegian christian newspaper.

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Beautifully done.
    Thought you'd like that. :)

    And as the compass shows elsewhere, we are very much on the same page on issues apart from economy. ;)

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    And as the compass shows elsewhere, we are very much on the same page on issues apart from economy. ;)

    I'll wrestle you for it :)
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    farfromglorified wrote:
    I'll wrestle you for it :)
    You're on! But I warn you, I do a mean "Rock Bottom". Just ask my friend :)

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    You're on! But I warn you, I do a mean "Rock Bottom". Just ask my friend :)

    Nevermind then....I'm all talk anyway ;)
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Nevermind then....I'm all talk anyway ;)
    I win! :D
    See talk can win it of you just back it up enough ;)

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    I win! :D
    See talk can win it of you just back it up enough ;)

    Hehe....but you had to resort to threats of force! I don't know what a "Rock Bottom" is, but it sounds damn painful.

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