Whenever I've had surgeries, the doctor usually showed me any x-rays or other images he had and described the process in detail to me. I think it's a good practice to have as much knowledge about the procedure as possible. Is this legislation much different from that?
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Whenever I've had surgeries, the doctor usually showed me any x-rays or other images he had and described the process in detail to me. I think it's a good practice to have as much knowledge about the procedure as possible. Is this legislation much different from that?
When the diagnostic is not going to have any effect on the outcome then why the necessity? Be like having multiple sclerosis and the state mandating that you must submit to manditory MRI. Even though the MRI would only show increase in lesions which the medical fraternity can do nothing about anyway.
If you were planning on continuing the pregnancy than yes, an ultrasound is an excellent idea, should you choose to have it.
But as termination of pregnancy has been practiced for decades without the doctor requiring an ultrasound, and as it adds no benefit to the doctor being able to perform the surgery, then no, it should not have been legislated.
And I'd agree prism. Very brave choices girl. I support you in your right to choose and I admire your strength and courage.
I find statements like this confusing and I read them allll the time. "it's such a hard decision", etc.
having kids against doc's orders is a courageous thing to do.
If a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to have a baby... if she *really* thinks that it's nothing but a parasitic cluster of cells... it shouldn't be a hard decision at all. why should the words 'bravery' and 'courage' be used?
I find statements like this confusing and I read them allll the time. "it's such a hard decision", etc.
having kids against doc's orders is a courageous thing to do.
If a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to have a baby... if she *really* thinks that it's nothing but a parasitic cluster of cells... it shouldn't be a hard decision at all. why should the words 'bravery' and 'courage' be used?
Well if you don't understand it then I'm sorry for you.
I think it's brave and courageous either way.
And my comments were directed at prism anyway, so why would you care what I think?
I find statements like this confusing and I read them allll the time. "it's such a hard decision", etc.
having kids against doc's orders is a courageous thing to do.
If a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to have a baby... if she *really* thinks that it's nothing but a parasitic cluster of cells... it shouldn't be a hard decision at all. why should the words 'bravery' and 'courage' be used?
Because many people struggle to find their position on this issue. There are arguments to be made for both sides, and women often find themselves hearing conflicting advice from the people closest to them. If they're lucky, advice is all they're getting ... some are getting guilt trips and beatings. Then they have to make a final decision during what is a very stressful time ... after all, even under the best of circumstances, a pregnancy that you're not prepared for is a huge ordeal with life-altering consequences, and you don't have much time to mull everything over. It's like jumping out of a plane ... once you take that step, there's no going back. That takes courage, whichever way you decide.
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Whenever I've had surgeries, the doctor usually showed me any x-rays or other images he had and described the process in detail to me. I think it's a good practice to have as much knowledge about the procedure as possible. Is this legislation much different from that?
i've only twice seen my films before any of my surgeries or invasive procedures. those only because they used the images as guides to insert needles into a specific spot. regardless, the big difference is i wasn't REQUIRED to look.
what if a woman refuses to look? are they gonna hold her head and force her eyes open? will they deny the abortion if she refuses?
i don't think it should be mandatory...for abortions or for any invasive procedure. be offered the choice perhaps...but not forced.
I find statements like this confusing and I read them allll the time. "it's such a hard decision", etc.
having kids against doc's orders is a courageous thing to do.
If a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to have a baby... if she *really* thinks that it's nothing but a parasitic cluster of cells... it shouldn't be a hard decision at all. why should the words 'bravery' and 'courage' be used?
actually having children against doctor's orders is an irresponsible thing to do if youve gone to him/her for advice. it's betting against the life of the mother and the child. and probably plays into the martyr complex many people have.oh the doctor said i should not carrying a baby to term, but steve and i wanted a child so desparately that we chose to ignore his/her advice. and now we have a beautiful little girl.
as a parent, and separately as a woman, i go through so many 'what if' moments. but i live with the decisions i've made. and they are difficult whichever way i've chosen. the simple fact is no one knows unless theyve been in that situation and been faced with such decisions. you don't know somebody else's life. you don't know how things will impact upon them. YOU DON'T KNOW. we aren't all built of steel and absolute conviction.
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actually having children against doctor's orders is an irresponsible thing to do if youve gone to him/her for advice. it's betting against the life of the mother and the child. and probably plays into the martyr complex many people have.oh the doctor said i should not carrying a baby to term, but steve and i wanted a child so desparately that we chose to ignore his/her advice. and now we have a beautiful little girl.
as a parent, and separately as a woman, i go through so many 'what if' moments. but i live with the decisions i've made. and they are difficult whichever way i've chosen. the simple fact is no one knows unless theyve been in that situation and been faced with such decisions. you don't know somebody else's life. you don't know how things will impact upon them. YOU DON'T KNOW. we aren't all built of steel and absolute conviction.
Very well said.
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...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
When the diagnostic is not going to have any effect on the outcome then why the necessity? Be like having multiple sclerosis and the state mandating that you must submit to manditory MRI. Even though the MRI would only show increase in lesions which the medical fraternity can do nothing about anyway.
If you were planning on continuing the pregnancy than yes, an ultrasound is an excellent idea, should you choose to have it.
But as termination of pregnancy has been practiced for decades without the doctor requiring an ultrasound, and as it adds no benefit to the doctor being able to perform the surgery, then no, it should not have been legislated.
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I find statements like this confusing and I read them allll the time. "it's such a hard decision", etc.
having kids against doc's orders is a courageous thing to do.
If a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to have a baby... if she *really* thinks that it's nothing but a parasitic cluster of cells... it shouldn't be a hard decision at all. why should the words 'bravery' and 'courage' be used?
Well if you don't understand it then I'm sorry for you.
I think it's brave and courageous either way.
And my comments were directed at prism anyway, so why would you care what I think?
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It is neither of those things.
I think
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And I think you're wrong.
And I think you are wrong. So we're really not getting anywhere here.
Seems pointless to me to be slinging back and forth. So I'm off to bed.
You have a great day cbc.
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i've only twice seen my films before any of my surgeries or invasive procedures. those only because they used the images as guides to insert needles into a specific spot. regardless, the big difference is i wasn't REQUIRED to look.
what if a woman refuses to look? are they gonna hold her head and force her eyes open? will they deny the abortion if she refuses?
i don't think it should be mandatory...for abortions or for any invasive procedure. be offered the choice perhaps...but not forced.
actually having children against doctor's orders is an irresponsible thing to do if youve gone to him/her for advice. it's betting against the life of the mother and the child. and probably plays into the martyr complex many people have.oh the doctor said i should not carrying a baby to term, but steve and i wanted a child so desparately that we chose to ignore his/her advice. and now we have a beautiful little girl.
as a parent, and separately as a woman, i go through so many 'what if' moments. but i live with the decisions i've made. and they are difficult whichever way i've chosen. the simple fact is no one knows unless theyve been in that situation and been faced with such decisions. you don't know somebody else's life. you don't know how things will impact upon them. YOU DON'T KNOW. we aren't all built of steel and absolute conviction.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Very well said.
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