Rosie's comments about Asians

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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    first, if you don't care then why are you asking?

    second, making fun of the way someone talks is mocking and stereotyping. it's pretty simple. if you did the same thing by talking with a deep voice and saying that you're a bull-dyke...she'll be offended...understand now? if not, you never will.

    Clearly you have been making sweeping generalizations about me just because of how or what I type!:mad: How is that any better behaviour? I was simply trying to understand and if it's beyond you to take cheap shots well good luck with that! Or we could settle down and have a reasoned adult discussion. Up to you I suppose.
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  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    sponger wrote:
    I'm half asian and I laughed when I saw that clip. It reminds me of Rocky IV when the fight between Ivan Drago and Rocky is being announced on all those foreign TV stations. Most of us don't speak 10 different languages and so didn't understand what was being said in those TV announcements. That's what makes it funny. We hear the newscaster say a whole bunch of foreign jibberish and then the words "Rocky Balboa" and "Ivan Drago". We're like, "LMAO, I know what they're saying even though I don't really know what they're saying."
    You ever been mocked for sounding a certain way? How do you feel about people poking fun at the race of whichever parent your Asian heritage comes from?

    I guess I could be called hyper-sensitive, but truthfully, Rosie's comments are something I would've expected from someone talking about how Orientals talk.......from someone in fifth grade, that is.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Rosie O'Donnell apology falls flat

    Non-event, huh? Seems pretty convenient when someone from a certain political leaning makes such comments. Can't imagine it would've been a non-event if it had been ohhh, say....a conservative who had made the same comments.

    By the way, in case anyone out there happened to find her comments humorous--they're not. I'm Chinese, and what she said ranks right up there with the kung fu/martial arts questions, the rice and noodle comments, the eating cats and dogs comments, etc. etc.


    Rosie is a major moron. I have never liked her as a comedien or anything else she has done. She flat out sucks.

    But you need to lighten up. Who gives a crap what she says and afterall, it's just a joke.

    I'll bet you have no problem laughing and giggling when your asian friends/family makes fun of non-asians, eh?
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    dkst0426 wrote:
    It was a double standard, not just from her, but from those defending her. If it had been someone identified more or less as a conservative figure, they would have been crucified in the press. What we've seen in response to Rosie instead has been "Oh, it's just overreaction" or "There's no big deal about her anyway" or "Nobody watches The View anymore anyway."

    Ok, well Rosie obviously gets far more airplay where you are than where I am. So I'm not trying to be dismissive about her comments I guess what I'm saying is that she doesn't really feature heavily in my world so I don't pay much attention to what she says. As to the "description" she used to portray Chinese speaking people, I'm sorry to say but if I had to relay an attempt at conversing with a Chinese person that couldn't speak English when I can't speak Chinese I would probably have to describe it exactly the same way and I can assure I am no more racist than the average person. :)
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  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    NMyTree wrote:
    But you need to lighten up. Who gives a crap what she says and afterall, it's just a joke.

    I'll bet you have no problem laughing and giggling when your asian friends/family makes fun of non-asians, eh?
    Truthfully, I don't much care for Asians with a chip on their shoulder, either. Trying to fit in with the Asian community at my college when they were far more interested in bitching about others and not trying to assimilate and calling me a sellout because I hung around with my non-Asian friends got tiresome.

    Shame I couldn't have taken you up on that bet.

    The reason I DO come across as having a chip on my shoulder about this is because as I have already said--people can't help but have a certain accent. Having others mock it, especially in the public arena, doesn't help.

    So I'll thank you to not try and tell me what I "need" to do.
  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Jeanie wrote:
    Ok, well Rosie obviously gets far more airplay where you are than where I am. So I'm not trying to be dismissive about her comments I guess what I'm saying is that she doesn't really feature heavily in my world so I don't pay much attention to what she says. As to the "description" she used to portray Chinese speaking people, I'm sorry to say but if I had to relay an attempt at conversing with a Chinese person that couldn't speak English when I can't speak Chinese I would probably have to describe it exactly the same way and I can assure I am no more racist than the average person. :)
    So you can't just say it was a conversation with a Chinese person who doesn't speak English? That seemed clear-cut enough to me. For crying out loud, "ching chong ching chong" isn't even a valid Chinese phrase.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    dkst0426 wrote:
    So I'll thank you to not try and tell me what I "need" to do.

    ...and I'll thank you to stop whining and crying like a small child, just because some idiot makes stupid jokes. Learn to laugh at yourself and not take yourself so seriously.
  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    NMyTree wrote:
    ...and I'll thank you to stop whining and crying like a small child, just because some idiot makes stupid jokes. Learn to laugh at yourself and not take yourself so seriously.
    Yeeeah. Ok.

    The irony here is that most small children would've found those asinine comments funny.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Boohoo. Need a tissue?
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    I just hope that Rosie doesn't get mad when people mock lesbians.

    Personally, I think any humor is okay so long as the audience finds it humorous.
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  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    NMyTree wrote:
    Boohoo. Need a tissue?
    I'm not crying. Feel free to criticize any of the points I've brought up. The personal badgering? Feel free to file that away to use on someone else who may be interested.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Feel free to criticize any of the points I've brought up.


    I did.

    You're uptight, overly-sensitive and hypocritical. Next time you're watching a comedien, you can't laugh at any jokes that make fun at other races or cultures, which are not Asian, okay? That includes no laughing at gay and lesbian jokes, also.

    Report back and let me know how that goes for you:rolleyes:
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    dkst0426 wrote:
    So you can't just say it was a conversation with a Chinese person who doesn't speak English? That seemed clear-cut enough to me. For crying out loud, "ching chong ching chong" isn't even a valid Chinese phrase.

    When recounting the insident that I'm referring to yeah, unfortunately and unashamedly I might add, I did have to resort to a pathetic parody of an Asian language that I don't understand when recounting the incident. But I'll say it again because I think you missed it I felt bad because I couldn't communicate effectively in that situation. But what am I supposed to do run out and learn EVERY language just in case I MIGHT need it? What I'm saying is, before you get mad again, I don't see anything wrong with parody when you are up against the language barrier. That would apply in any circumstance with any language and is in my humble opinion "just words and words alone cannot hurt me." People do communicate in different ways, language not being the only barrier, and it helps if you can keep an open mind. If malicious intent is not there I really don't see what the problem is.
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  • NMyTree
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    Okay, so next time your watching a show, a movie, a stand-up comedian or a play where they do a parody or satire on homosexual men and they do that whole gay voice thing and gay mannerisms; or they make fun of whites, blacks, mexicans, Middle Easterners or anyone not Asian; you are not permitted to laugh, snicker, giggle or even smile. The minute you do, you're a full blown hypocrite.
  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    NMyTree wrote:
    I did.

    You're uptight, overly-sensitive and hypocritical. Next time you're watching a comedien, you can't laugh at any jokes that make fun at other races or cultures, which are not Asian, okay? That includes no laughing at gay and lesbian jokes, also.

    Report back and let me know how that goes for you:rolleyes:

    "The View" passes itself off as a roundtable discussion about current events and entertainment news, not as a standup routine by comediAns.

    Thankfully, you mean nothing to me, so as for the reporting thing, yeah........nevermind.
  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Jeanie wrote:
    When recounting the insident that I'm referring to yeah, unfortunately and unashamedly I might add, I did have to resort to a pathetic parody of an Asian language that I don't understand when recounting the incident. But I'll say it again because I think you missed it I felt bad because I couldn't communicate effectively in that situation. But what am I supposed to do run out and learn EVERY language just in case I MIGHT need it? What I'm saying is, before you get mad again, I don't see anything wrong with parody when you are up against the language barrier. That would apply in any circumstance with any language and is in my humble opinion "just words and words alone cannot hurt me." People do communicate in different ways, language not being the only barrier, and it helps if you can keep an open mind. If malicious intent is not there I really don't see what the problem is.
    My point in response to what you've been saying is that I don't think there needs to be a resorting to parodying the language to begin with.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    dkst0426 wrote:
    "The View" passes itself off as a roundtable discussion about current events and entertainment news, not as a standup routine by comediAns.

    Thankfully, you mean nothing to me, so as for the reporting thing, yeah........nevermind.


    LOL, you're mad about what Rosie said on that sad and pathetic show...The View? :D:D Holy Moly!

    Well, they do make jokes on there and crack on-liners. Like I said, you can no longer laugh at any of the things I mentioned. The very second you do, you're a full blown hypocrite.

    Comedean.......Comedian....Comidean......Comedeen......Comedyan :D:D
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    dkst0426 wrote:
    My point in response to what you've been saying is that I don't think there needs to be a resorting to parodying the language to begin with.

    Well people are different and it helps to be able to recognize what is malicious and what is not. You seem to be struggling with that. If you can't accept that we are all different and that there are particular characteristics amongst different groups of people and that acknowledging them with humour is a great way to connect with people then I'm sorry for you.:(
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  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    NMyTree wrote:
    LOL, you're mad about what Rosie said on that sad and pathetic show...The View? :D:D Holy Moly!........

    Careful NmyTree you might inflame the religous set with comment's like that!!;)

    I agree with you on this and all you previous posts! Very well put! :)
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  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Typical, really. Shouldn't have expected any less.

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