"The Answer Is Impeachment" ... "There's No Running Away From That."

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,960
    polaris wrote:
    you're actually comparing an act of civil disobedience to what GWB has done in the last 8 years? Heck - maybe Rosa Parks should've turned herself in way back when.


    Theft = Civi Disobedience?

    Man, I can't wait to perform an act of civil disobedience on your car. ;)

    Rosa Parks did "turn herself in"...she did what she did right out in front of people...that's civil disobedience...

    Anyhow, I love this topic. :)
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I thought murder was illegal...

    ....regardless of words and semantics

    That's kinda what happened, and deliberately.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Theft = Civi Disobedience?

    Man, I can't wait to perform an act of civil disobedience on your car. ;)

    Rosa Parks did "turn herself in"...she did what she did right out in front of people...that's civil disobedience...

    Anyhow, I love this topic. :)
    what about this math equation:

    stealing a sign = being responsible for killing 1 million+ people?

    ;)
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I thought murder was illegal...

    ....regardless of words and semantics

    That's kinda what happened, and deliberately.
    I just can't get over the fact that people actually don't know that Bush has done anything illegal... or choose not to know...
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    _outlaw wrote:
    what about this math equation:

    stealing a sign = being responsible for killing 1 million+ people?

    ;)

    Who said that they equaled each other?

    A poster who is an admitted thief made a statement about being accountable for your actions. The equation was about accountability, not about comparing the two supposed crimes.

    I truly believe that poor reading comprehension is behind a lot of liberal ideology. That and hypocrisy.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    _outlaw wrote:
    I just can't get over the fact that people actually don't know that Bush has done anything illegal... or choose not to know...

    I can't get over the fact that the list of supposed illegal acts is comprised mainly of things that aren't illegal.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Theft = Civi Disobedience?

    Man, I can't wait to perform an act of civil disobedience on your car. ;)

    Rosa Parks did "turn herself in"...she did what she did right out in front of people...that's civil disobedience...

    Anyhow, I love this topic. :)

    what was the purpose of stealing the sign? ... to OWN the sign itself? ... no, it was an act to make the job of recruiting people for a senseless war harder ...

    but in any case - you can't even remotely compare the two ... i say if you do - then you are only seeking to distract yourself from what is the crux of the issue ...
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    know1 wrote:
    Who said that they equaled each other?

    A poster who is an admitted thief made a statement about being accountable for your actions. The equation was about accountability, not about comparing the two supposed crimes.

    I truly believe that poor reading comprehension is behind a lot of liberal ideology.
    uh... you're still comparing them... whether or not you want to admit it, I really don't care.

    and I'm not a liberal.
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    know1 wrote:
    Now how many of those are truly illegal?

    Quite a few of them.
    And many of the rest float in some vague grey area between negligence and malfeasance. Of course, i'd say they are acts malfeasance disguised (dumbed down) as negligence ... which seems to be the MO of the entire administration.

    But whatever.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    know1 wrote:
    I can't get over the fact that the list of supposed illegal acts is comprised mainly of things that aren't illegal.
    I pray to God you're not practicing law...
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    polaris wrote:
    http://www.amazon.com/Prosecution-George-W-Bush-Murder/dp/159315481X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217248267&sr=1-1

    read this book ... the author is a prosecuting attorney that worked the manson murders - he's never lost a case ... he highlights all the criminal actions of bush and this administration ...
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Quite a few of them.
    And many of the rest float in some vague grey area between negligence and malfeasance. Of course, i'd say they are acts malfeasance disguised (dumbed down) as negligence ... which seems to be the MO of the entire administration.

    But whatever.


    No - a few of them may be illegal...but then again those are just alleged.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    What else can congress do?

    Well.
    Listen to a former representative ... right at the end of this clip.

    THERE'S NO RUNNING AWAY.

    ;)

    sorry, impeachment is not even possible. Congress leadership knew about many of the stated issues for impeachment. Congress as a whole in some cases knew also. So though the Bush administration abused all the lopeholes, the constitution, and the fear of congressional representatives (it's seems more important to keep their job than do what's right), impeachment isn't an option.

    I'd guess at least half of congress, if not more, are equally responsible for the abuses of government the last 7 years.
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    know1 wrote:
    Who said that they equaled each other?

    A poster who is an admitted thief made a statement about being accountable for your actions. The equation was about accountability, not about comparing the two supposed crimes.

    I truly believe that poor reading comprehension is behind a lot of liberal ideology. That and hypocrisy.

    And are you not hypocritical by bringing up something when you yourself have probably broken a law?

    haha - so, liberals can't read - another good one ...

    sad
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,960
    polaris wrote:
    what was the purpose of stealing the sign? ... to OWN the sign itself? ... no, it was an act to make the job of recruiting people for a senseless war harder ...

    but in any case - you can't even remotely compare the two ... i say if you do - then you are only seeking to distract yourself from what is the crux of the issue ...

    Hahaha...I'm not comparing it...I already said...when Abook and El Kabong committed theft, no one died!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    _outlaw wrote:
    I pray to God you're not practicing law...


    i see you didnt answer his question yet...


    (did i just come to the defense of know1 and back him up? :eek: ;))
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    my2hands wrote:
    i see you didnt answer his question yet...


    (did i just come to the defense of know1 and back him up? :eek: ;))
    lol, drifting already answered the question.

    plus if you don't know that things like obstruction of justice and that the war/occupation of Iraq was illegal, then there's no reason to answer a question like that...
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    my2hands wrote:
    i see you didnt answer his question yet...


    (did i just come to the defense of know1 and back him up? :eek: ;))

    It's OK, the nausea doesn't last too long ;)
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    polaris wrote:
    And are you not hypocritical by bringing up something when you yourself have probably broken a law?

    haha - so, liberals can't read - another good one ...

    sad

    No - because I didn't state that people should be accountable ;)
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    _outlaw wrote:
    lol, drifting already answered the question.

    plus if you don't know that things like obstruction of justice and that the war/occupation of Iraq was illegal, then there's no reason to answer a question like that...

    I don't know about the obstruction of justice bit ... but nothing Bush did vis a vis Iraq broke federal law. He went in with basically a blank check, signed by Congress.

    All this impeachment talk is well and good ... but last I checked, you can't impeach someone just for being a douchebag.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do

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