World Government: NOT Conspiracy - Walter Cronkite & Hillary Agrees! VIDEO HERE!
DriftingByTheStorm
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Anyone feel like discussing this video clip?
Hillary Clinton at the end congratulating Walter Cronkite for receiving his "GLOBAL GOVERNANCE" award.
Introductory speaker praising him for his lifetime commitment to "WORLD GOVERNMENT".
A SINGLE GLOBAL AUTHORITY!
Hmm.
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Hillary Clinton at the end congratulating Walter Cronkite for receiving his "GLOBAL GOVERNANCE" award.
Introductory speaker praising him for his lifetime commitment to "WORLD GOVERNMENT".
A SINGLE GLOBAL AUTHORITY!
Hmm.
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Somehow that video is a conspiracy. I have no proof but I refuse to believe it unless the t.v. tells it to me.DriftingByTheStorm wrote:So.
You people better start waking the hell up and realizing this isn't some stupid fucking conspiracy theory.
This is real life, mother fuckers.
VIDEO RIGHT HERE
For those with absolutely no attention span, the introduction orator sums it up in the first 10 seconds.
Cronkite says it plainly at 1:45-1:50
He gets in to it heavy at the 3:45 mark onward.
4:45 - "Americans are going to have to yield up some of our soverignty."
6:35 - Permanent International Court
So. What do you want folks?
DO YOU WANT YOUR NATIONAL SOVERIGNTY,
OR DO YOU WANT TO SUBMIT?
7:15 ... uh? "The right hand of Satan" ? Hah ha. NOT!
7:55 - HILLARY CLINTON - "YAY CRONKITE! YAY ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT! YAY YAY! DEATH TO AMERIKA! WOO HOO! WE ARE THE ELITE! WE WILL PWNE YOU! YOU WILL SUBMIT! DIE DIE DIE![/b]
You don't like America?
You don't like soverign countries?
You think it would be better if we put em all together, had massive in-fighting, and a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT where no one can escape from anything?
You don't like it?
FUCK OFF, YOU'RE STUCK.
There is only one stinking shithole of a country,
and if you don't like it, you may as well shoot your fucking self in the face.
SO FOLKS?
ARE YOU READY FOR "THE EMPIRE"?
Or are you going to join the rebels?
Give me a fucking break.
This is UNDENIABLE!
A SINGLE GLOBAL AUTHORITY!
Not a fucking joke, people!
Edit-Forgot to give congrats to to Hillary on her HUGE comeback tonight. Now the super delegates will be able to make her the winner of the nomination. Go Hillary.0 -
Nevermind wrote:Somehow that video is a conspiracy. I have no proof but I refuse to believe it unless the t.v. tells it to me.
Edit-Forgot to give congrats to to Hillary on her HUGE comeback tonight. Now the super delegates will be able to make her the winner of the nomination. Go Hillary.
...and McCain shall be our new EmperorMy blog for your boots:
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bump.
i am going to bump this 4 times a day until 12.12.2012
so get used to it.
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9am bump.
Hey look.
Hillary Clinton wants to subvert the constitution and put you under the control of WOLRD Government.
No conspiracy needed.
She just said it.
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10am bump
for those that are still in denial that not only is the pursuit of global government a reality, but the achievement of it is looking more probable by the decade.
THE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THIS ARE THE PEOPLE VYING FOR CONTROL OF YOUR GOVERNMENT.
And still,
no comments.
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oh oh.
11 am bump.
bringing you a repetitive blend of conspiracy and more conspiracy, here in the Pit, every hour on the hour.
VOTE HILLARY CLINTON FOR WORLD GOVERNMENT!
Hey, i hear not everyone thinks its a bad idea, right?If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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Nice little hardcore 1984 piece from Hillary at the end. That was totally insane. Kronkite is a staunch CFR buddy.
Any bets it's Hillary 08?
insane...Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I dont see why there is a need for umpteen exclamation marks on this.
At a dinner for an association that promotes international cooperation and international law, they honour this Cronkite (famous journalist am I right?) for his staunch support of human right law and support for international peace through negotiation and cooperation. You dont like the idea of human rights or international law associated to that, I guess that's your call.
For the specific "points" in the OP, my responses are as follows:
Establishing world law as a way to peace. Scary indeedDriftingByTheStorm wrote:Cronkite says it plainly at 1:45-1:50
He's basically on about war crimes and crimes against humanity, and that there should be a system through which they can be processed effectively.He gets in to it heavy at the 3:45 mark onward.
And he also highlights how all nations must give up a little sovereignty in order to establish the institutions needed for world peace, of which international courts is a way of achieving.4:45 - "Americans are going to have to yield up some of our soverignty."
Go nationalism. That has brought so much peace to the world.... :rolleyes:6:35 - Permanent International Court
So. What do you want folks?
DO YOU WANT YOUR NATIONAL SOVERIGNTY,
OR DO YOU WANT TO SUBMIT?
As if having an international court for violations of human rights and "crimes against humanity" is any different than having laws to abide to within the countries. And this court can only be entered voluntarily by the countries in question.
In response to the Robertson qupte that anyone trying to achieve justice and order to the world before the messiah is to be regarded as pawns of satan... Dry wit there.7:15 ... uh? "The right hand of Satan" ? Hah ha. NOT!
...or "You are a nice guy, and congratulations on this award" which IS what she said.7:55 - HILLARY CLINTON - "YAY CRONKITE! YAY ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT! YAY YAY! DEATH TO AMERIKA! WOO HOO! WE ARE THE ELITE! WE WILL PWNE YOU! YOU WILL SUBMIT! DIE DIE DIE!
You seem to be totally over-reacting (now that's a shock) to an association that wants world peace through world law. Whether "world law" will achieve that or not is certainly up for debate. Whether "world law" CAN arguably mean and be interpreted as something sinister, that might be. But nothing of what Cronkite said here strikes me as "conspiratorial" or "sinister" unless you take the soundbyte where he talks about "world government" and add in your specific brand of how that must automatically mean your world police-state scenario.
Not impressed.
Peace
Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
OutOfBreath wrote:You seem to be totally over-reacting (now that's a shock) to an association that wants world peace through world law. Whether "world law" will achieve that or not is certainly up for debate. Whether "world law" CAN arguably mean and be interpreted as something sinister, that might be. But nothing of what Cronkite said here strikes me as "conspiratorial" or "sinister" unless you take the soundbyte where he talks about "world government" and add in your specific brand of how that must automatically mean your world police-state scenario.
So HOW THE FUCK CAN I WIN THEN?
THIS IS FUCKING STUPID.
I say over and over, the people in power want world government and they are working in a very quiet manner to achieve that with out you knowing it.
It all seems true. Hell this video would prove that Hillary supports it. You seem to want to make it out that she is just congratulating him on being a lover of peace. Bull fucking shit! He is getting an award from an organization that is DIRECTLY responsible for promoting WORLD GOVERNMENT. And she is speaking to that audience.
And yet, every time the argument is made by me or others that THEY ARE PUSHING WORLD GOVERNMENT
i get 1 of 2 basic lines of logic:
1. No they are not. You are a fucking idiot. Quit your conspiracy theory wet dream, they aren't trying for it, and it won't happen.
or
2. Yeah so what. Its just world government.
SO WHICH IS IT?
Some days it is flat denial.
Other days you try to explain it away as something that isn't really a problem.
World government will not bring about DICK for peace.
It will actualy institutionalize oppression. It won't be country vs. country, it will be Government Vs. The People.
IF IT WAS SO FUCKING GREAT, WHY AREN'T THEY ON TV AND OPENLY OUT IN THE PRESS JUST DISCUSSING IT, BRINGING DIALOGUE TO THE PEOPLE?
WHY WOULD THEY HIDE IT?
and by the way, this was not a public ceremony, and there was no internet video in 1999, so don't think they intended for YOU to see this!
So what is it?
Either you agree Global Government is a great thing, or you disagree.
But you can't sit here and tell me "its not a conspiracy" because you know what? IT PRETTY MUCH IS.
They are talking to EACHOTHER about it, but they sure as fuck aren't bringing the American public in to the dialogue.
And i could give two shits if Cronkite thinks it is some great idea becaues it will bring about peace and end suffering. Of COURSE a lot of them think they are doing the right thing. Hell Che Guevara and the Trotskyites thought THEY were doing the right thing too.
THere are always SOME people in a movement that genuinely believe in the cause as a good one ... but look how far they got ... DEAD.
The evil assholes ALWAYS take it over, it seems ... so why would you want to give them a GLOBAL platform to do so.
Sheesh.
That is why the founding fathers made a system that tried to give the people as much control as possible through representation and REPEATEDLY warned them about losing their vigilance or accepting encroachment on their liberty and soverign rights. They KNEW the tendency was for inertia to work in favor of expanding government and eroding personal rights, so they made a system which was by no means perfect but gave the people the best chance at maintaining control possible, provided they didn't get fat, lazy and stupid.
But look at us, fat lazy and stupid, and turning over our rights and liberties over to government at every chance we get.
Hell half of you are practicaly screaming for global government.
The other half still have their head up their ass that anyone would even consider trying such a "conspiracy theory".
Well, WAKE UP!If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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Freedom is slavery....war is peace...
but most importantly....
Ignorance is strength.
Everything is just face value...spend all your money...work harder... pay more taxes...
wake up repeat...
I should try digging a pit and putting my head in the sand...maybe I'll see something down there that would explain it...
Edit: I should add The federal reserve is real. The SPP/NAU is real.
Hand over your life and liberty to the government are you do just that...hand over your entire life's ownership.
People really do need to turn the damn TV off. it's pulping their brains into slop...Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Drifting, the point is that you repeatedly and severely overstate and distort what your sources say. Which is why I attack from different angles. My point is not to prove that there aren't any conspiracies, or that the drifting towards world government arguably happens. My main point is to chill you out and moderate the outrageous statements you make, and the conclusions you draw. You always attribute "them" or "their" representatives the worst possible motives, and always interpret everything as worst case, and with maximum ill will. As you undoubtedly did here.
As here, Cronkite gets an award, talks about peace and how international law would help that, and gets a "happy birthday" greeting from Hillary.
You cant possibly draw the conclusions you do wihtout a tremendous bias from the get-go. And as for the "secrecy" of it. :rolleyes: . It wasn't a public adress, no. Private gatherings should apparently be banned. But if this is what they say "in private" then I am truly not at all worried for the global nazi police-state. Seriously.
You may still make the argument for conspiracy or not, but this video, unlessed viewed with maximum ill will and heavy bias, does not say what you say it does. Simple as that.
Peace
Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
Was that directed at me in particular or was it a general lament?RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:Freedom is slavery....war is peace...
but most importantly....
Ignorance is strength.
Everything is just face value...spend all your money...work harder... pay more taxes...
wake up repeat...
I should try digging a pit and putting my head in the sand...maybe I'll see something down there that would explain it...
Edit: I should add The federal reserve is real. The SPP/NAU is real.
Hand over your life and liberty to the government are you do just that...hand over your entire life's ownership.
People really do need to turn the damn TV off. it's pulping their brains into slop...
Peace
Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
Another documentary on the FED. The narration and intro sucks, but the interviews and information contained within is factual.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-70668650671711857&q=Phenomenon%3A+The+Secret+of+the+Federal+Reserve&total=4&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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OutOfBreath wrote:As here, Cronkite gets an award,
"GLOBAL GOVERNANCE AWARD"
Introductory Speech:
"WORLD GOVERNMENT IS THE STRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR GLOBAL JUSTICE, YOU SIR HAVE BEEN A LIFE LONG ADVOCATE OF THIS PRINCIPLE"
I don't need to extrapolate bumpkiss.
Cronkite got the GLOBAL GOVERNANCE AWARD from the fucking WORLD FEDERALIST Association.
CLINTON then comes on to say, not happy birthday as you say but, "TONIGHT WE HONOR YOU FOR YOUR LIFE LONG COMMITMENT TO FIGHTING FOR THE WAY IT COULD BE."
So what if they dress it up under the guise of it being for the global good of "equity and justice" ... they ALWAYS dress it up. REMEMBER THE IRAQ WAR FOR FUCKS SAKE? Man, did they dress up the shit out of that. How about the FIRST Iraq war? What were we fighting for again? Babies thrown out of incubators and left to die? IT WAS ALL LIES! LIES LIES LIES!
I have no doubt that SOME of the people involved in the push for world government legitimately think they are doing the right thing.
I equally have no doubt that there are a bunch of em that have NO delusions about what they are doing, and simply use the subterfuge of "world peace" or "human rights" to justify their diabolic plans for global conquest.If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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Nowadays you take the opposite of what govt says to be the reality.
They make up names of projects that is 180 degree the opposite to what the intention is in order to camouflage it. There are examples of this over and over again.
Seriously, it's insane.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:Nowadays you take the opposite of what govt says to be the reality.
They make up names of projects that is 180 degree the opposite to what the intention is in order to camouflage it. There are examples of this over and over again.
Seriously, it's insane.
THE ANSWER TO 1984 IS 1776! If I was to smile and I held out my hand
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True. The principles about world peace, of which he talks at length, yes. But his perspective, and that of the organization, is to prevent war brought along by petty nationalism and push for multilateralism and cooperation. He's all about peace and preventing war.DriftingByTheStorm wrote:"GLOBAL GOVERNANCE AWARD"
Introductory Speech:
"WORLD GOVERNMENT IS THE STRUCTURE NECESSARY FOR GLOBAL JUSTICE, YOU SIR HAVE BEEN A LIFE LONG ADVOCATE OF THIS PRINCIPLE"
I don't need to extrapolate bumpkiss.
Cronkite got the GLOBAL GOVERNANCE AWARD from the fucking WORLD FEDERALIST Association.
"You are a good guy, fighting the good fight". Sounds pretty run-of-the-mill congratulatory speech for life-long achievement to me. And the focus is on him being a great humanitarian and a good journalist bringing attention to the issues.CLINTON then comes on to say, not happy birthday as you say but, "TONIGHT WE HONOR YOU FOR YOUR LIFE LONG COMMITMENT TO FIGHTING FOR THE WAY IT COULD BE."
Relevance? This wasn't even public as you yourself stated. Why do they lie to themselves in private? The war propaganda machine is something else entirely.So what if they dress it up under the guise of it being for the global good of "equity and justice" ... they ALWAYS dress it up. REMEMBER THE IRAQ WAR FOR FUCKS SAKE? Man, did they dress up the shit out of that. How about the FIRST Iraq war? What were we fighting for again? Babies thrown out of incubators and left to die? IT WAS ALL LIES! LIES LIES LIES!
That is your opinion. Not fact. You are entitled to your opinion. You dont have to dress it up to look like fact when it isnt.I have no doubt that SOME of the people involved in the push for world government legitimately think they are doing the right thing.
I equally have no doubt that there are a bunch of em that have NO delusions about what they are doing, and simply use the subterfuge of "world peace" or "human rights" to justify their diabolic plans for global conquest.
Whcih is my point here. Unless you have bias and agenda beforehand, there is nothing sinister or scary in that entire clip. They use the word "world government", but from what they say in connection to it and about it, it has nothing to do with your "world government" as outlined before.
As for your previous question of how you can "win", you'll win me over when you focus more on the facts, and less on sensationalist interpretations. Stop cutting all the "if", "might", and "perhaps" in order to add 5 exclamation marks. You did a good job on the rockefeller link to propaganda research. More of that, and less ramblings with 16 exclamation points, where you have to apply about half a ton of ill will and arguable premises to see the same way.
It's kinda like this norwegian tabloid, that was found to have like 14500 references in their database with the word "shock" in it. Use it for everything, and it loses it's potency. If they call everything a shock, I wouldn't know when there really WAS something to be shocked about, since they're always maxing out the scale for whatever trivialty.
Point is, that even if you ARE right in your assertions, that clip is nowhere near making that case for you. It's a hint at best.
Peace
Dan"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 19650 -
OutOfBreath wrote:True. The principles about world peace, of which he talks at length, yes. But his perspective, and that of the organization, is to prevent war brought along by petty nationalism and push for multilateralism and cooperation. He's all about peace and preventing war.
"You are a good guy, fighting the good fight". Sounds pretty run-of-the-mill congratulatory speech for life-long achievement to me. And the focus is on him being a great humanitarian and a good journalist bringing attention to the issues.
Relevance? This wasn't even public as you yourself stated. Why do they lie to themselves in private? The war propaganda machine is something else entirely.
That is your opinion. Not fact. You are entitled to your opinion. You dont have to dress it up to look like fact when it isnt.
Whcih is my point here. Unless you have bias and agenda beforehand, there is nothing sinister or scary in that entire clip. They use the word "world government", but from what they say in connection to it and about it, it has nothing to do with your "world government" as outlined before.
As for your previous question of how you can "win", you'll win me over when you focus more on the facts, and less on sensationalist interpretations. Stop cutting all the "if", "might", and "perhaps" in order to add 5 exclamation marks. You did a good job on the rockefeller link to propaganda research. More of that, and less ramblings with 16 exclamation points, where you have to apply about half a ton of ill will and arguable premises to see the same way.
It's kinda like this norwegian tabloid, that was found to have like 14500 references in their database with the word "shock" in it. Use it for everything, and it loses it's potency. If they call everything a shock, I wouldn't know when there really WAS something to be shocked about, since they're always maxing out the scale for whatever trivialty.
Point is, that even if you ARE right in your assertions, that clip is nowhere near making that case for you. It's a hint at best.
Peace
Dan
So bottom line we can at least agree that the elite ARE in FACT pushing for GLOBAL GOVERNMENT?
I like how you have repeatedly sidestepped the truth here by saying it is a "life time achievement" award.
It is the GLOBAL GOVERNANCE AWARD.
It isn't about peace, it isn't about equity.
Sure that is one of the reasons they seem to think it is a good idea.
But the award was not for peace or equity.
It was for GLOBAL GOVERNANCE.
So now the cat is out of the bag, right?
I don't have to come on here and bludgeon everyone over the head with all this "conspiracy theory" crap about global government, right?
You AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE that there IS a push on for it.
Now we just disagree over
1. Whether this is "good" or "bad"
2. If\How\When they will achieve it
3. The motives
Correct?
So i win a battle, but not the war?
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