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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Sweet Emotion wrote:
    Elevated potential can only exist when the skirmishes are done away with and energy can be focused
    more directly on the problems at hand.
    Elevated potential always exists, independent of our obliviousness to it, or our ability to access it.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    aNiMaL wrote:
    The copy provided from the HI department of health satisfies this request.

    So scroll down and explain C re: "Indonesian citizenship" to me if it's all so apparently clear.

    http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/065_Obama%20Crimes%20Ad%20-%20Wash%20Times%2020081117.pdf
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Sweet Emotion
    Sweet Emotion Posts: 100
    angelica wrote:
    Interesting how you are attempting to tell someone else how to think.

    When you understand that others just think the way they do, then talk to me about being pragmatic and practical. Until then, you are undermining your own argument.

    I'm not telling you how to think, Angelica, only pointing out that you might consider it. The fact that I've done so indicates that I am already well aware that 'others just think the way they do." It was just friendly advice.
    Have a nice day.
    I'm not who you think i am....
  • Sweet Emotion
    Sweet Emotion Posts: 100
    angelica wrote:
    Elevated potential always exists, independent of our obliviousness to it, or our ability to access it.

    You are right. I should have said elevated potential can only be fully harnessed when...
    Not being oblivious to it was part of the point of my post. Also about unified effort in attaining to newer heights.
    I'm not who you think i am....
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Sweet Emotion wrote:
    I'm not telling you how to think, Angelica, only pointing out that you might consider it. The fact that I've done so indicates that I am already well aware that 'others just think the way they do." It was just friendly advice.
    Have a nice day.
    If you are now recognizing that it's much more realistic (alongside being more psychologically healthy) to suggest someone consider something rather than telling them what to do (quote by you: "Invoke common sense from time to time"), then improvement noted.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Sweet Emotion wrote:
    You are right. I should have said elevated potential can only be fully harnessed when...
    Not being oblivious to it was part of the point of my post. Also about unified effort in attaining to newer heights.
    hopefully, then, you recognize that this potential is reached when we resolve the conflicts within, and therefore realize the external conflicts we see no longer exist, then. We recognize them to have been a figment of our own fragmented view. (black/white dichotomous thinking)

    if you see this, you understand how cool it is to understand this...one then can easily see who is being realistic, and who is not....
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    So scroll down and explain C re: "Indonesian citizenship" to me if it's all so apparently clear.

    http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/065_Obama%20Crimes%20Ad%20-%20Wash%20Times%2020081117.pdf
    Provide something other than a .pdf from a overtly anti-Obama website and I will entertain it. Otherwise, you can save your obamacrimes.com website links for Driftin'.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Personally I think there could be (maybe) a potential technicality in the mix that ties into his Indonesian citizenship, and it's being avoided. To say it's biased extreme right tinfoil hat stuff is a but much though. Berg is a Democrat btw...

    This whole "he has no time thing" is folly.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Provide something other than a .pdf from a overtly anti-Obama website and I will entertain it. Otherwise, you can save your obamacrimes.com website links for Driftin'.


    Dude it's reality. Face up to the fact. Google around. "obama indonesian citizenship"

    knock yourself out
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Sweet Emotion
    Sweet Emotion Posts: 100
    angelica wrote:
    hopefully, then, you recognize that this potential is reached when we resolve the conflicts within, and therefore realize the external conflicts we see no longer exist, then. We recognize them to have been a figment of our own fragmented view. (black/white dichotomous thinking)

    if you see this, you understand how cool it is to understand this...one then can easily see who is being realistic, and who is not....

    What I recognize is that there is a man trying to put together a team that will be tackling very real problems that have been festering and gathering momentum for the last 8 years. Those problems are of daily consequence on the global stage. There is a very real possibility of warfare between India and Pakistan, 2 nuclear powers.
    I don't see that throwing banana skins like this Birth certificate nonsense under the feet of a man who is serious and has a focused vision, isn't anything but an unhealthy, fragmented, partisan agenda. And buying into it is dichotomous thinking.
    I'm not who you think i am....
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Sweet Emotion wrote:
    What I recognize is that there is a man trying to put together a team that will be tackling very real problems that have been festering and gathering momentum for the last 8 years. Those problems are of daily consequence on the global stage. There is a very real possibility of warfare between India and Pakistan, 2 nuclear powers.
    I don't see that throwing banana skins like this Birth certificate nonsense under the feet of a man who is serious and has a focused vision, isn't anything but an unhealthy, fragmented, partisan agenda. And buying into it is dichotomous thinking.
    I'm well aware of your view.

    Just as I am well aware that other people see things differently.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • Sweet Emotion
    Sweet Emotion Posts: 100
    angelica wrote:
    I'm well aware of your view.

    Just as I am well aware that other people see things differently.

    And so you continue to muddle through life comfortable with your obliviousness, casting aspersions from some supposed loftier place, playing pop psychologist and luminary. Your moralizing and pontificating are horribly stale like last night's cigarettes in an overflowed ashtray.
    I'm not who you think i am....
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Dude it's reality. Face up to the fact. Google around. "obama indonesian citizenship"

    knock yourself out
    Now, just like anyone who is trying their hardest to damn a person, has now changed gears. Are you worried that he was born in Kenya, or that at some point under the age of 5 that Obama may have been adopted by his father in Indonesia to attend school there for a short time, which at no point ever voided his US citizenship?

    So he said he never had another given name. But this was when he was younger than 5 years old. At no point does this argument have any weight bearing issues on the issues at hand. it is all meant to disguise and cloud the current issues to block him from actually being the president.

    He is a US citizen and he has been elected the President of the United States.

    Obama is not a terrorist!!
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Now, just like anyone who is trying their hardest to damn a person, has now changed gears. Are you worried that he was born in Kenya, or that at some point under the age of 5 that Obama may have been adopted by his father in Indonesia to attend school there for a short time, which at no point ever voided his US citizenship?

    So he said he never had another given name. But this was when he was younger than 5 years old. At no point does this argument have any weight bearing issues on the issues at hand. it is all meant to disguise and cloud the current issues to block him from actually being the president.

    He is a US citizen and he has been elected the President of the United States.

    Obama is not a terrorist!!

    Holy shit man. Nobody is saying BO is a terrorist at any point here.

    There is clearly something technical to do with his Indonesia citizenship status. Quite frankly I'm amazed you don't know the particulars of this story but you pretend like do.
    It's rather ridiculous.

    Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, so he would have to drop his US citizenship to be enrolled in a school there regardless of what piece of paper exists in Hawaii.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Sweet Emotion wrote:
    And so you continue to muddle through life comfortable with your obliviousness, casting aspersions from some supposed loftier place, playing pop psychologist and luminary. Your moralizing and pontificating are horribly stale like last night's cigarettes in an overflowed ashtray.
    which brings us back to your colourful representation of how you are right; others are wrong.

    I get it....
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    So scroll down and explain C re: "Indonesian citizenship" to me if it's all so apparently clear.

    http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/065_Obama%20Crimes%20Ad%20-%20Wash%20Times%2020081117.pdf
    I addressed that charge, but you didn't respond to my response. So, I'll reiterate. A 10 year old does not have the legal standing to renounce his U.S. citizenship, and a step-father does not have the authority to do it for him. Therefore, the nation of Indonesia can "grant" citizenship to whomever they want - it's what the U.S. recognizes that counts. And, just in case it hasn't been made clear enough yet - the U.S. recognizes Barack Obama as a natural born citizen.

    Doesn't Israeli government recognize all Jews as citizens of Israel? By Berg's logic, that means that no Jew would ever be eligible for the office of President. Fortunately, Berg is an irrational conspiracy theorist, and Jews are allowed to be President.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    RainDog wrote:
    I addressed that charge, but you didn't respond to my response. So, I'll reiterate. A 10 year old does not have the legal standing to renounce his U.S. citizenship, and a step-father does not have the authority to do it for him. Therefore, the nation of Indonesia can "grant" citizenship to whomever they want - it's what the U.S. recognizes that counts. And, just in case it hasn't been made clear enough yet - the U.S. recognizes Barack Obama as a natural born citizen.

    Doesn't Israeli government recognize all Jews as citizens of Israel? By Berg's logic, that means that no Jew would ever be eligible for the office of President. Fortunately, Berg is an irrational conspiracy theorist, and Jews are allowed to be President.

    Interesting. This would have been good information to put out several months ago. Perhaps I missed it, was it?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Holy shit man. Nobody is saying BO is a terrorist at any point here.

    There is clearly something technical to do with his Indonesia citizenship status. Quite frankly I'm amazed you don't know the particulars of this story but you pretend like do.
    It's rather ridiculous.

    Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship, so he would have to drop his US citizenship to be enrolled in a school there regardless of what piece of paper exists in Hawaii.
    Just because Indonesia didn't recognize his US citizenship, doesn't mean the US doesn't. Nice try though... :) he never lost his US citizenship in the United States.

    Next.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Interesting. This would have been good information to put out several months ago. Perhaps I missed it, was it?
    What information do you mean? That the U.S. recognizes is own citizenship laws? That pre-pubescent children do not have the legal standing to renounce their U.S. citizenship? I just figured this was all pretty common stuff.
  • Sweet Emotion
    Sweet Emotion Posts: 100
    angelica wrote:
    which brings us back to your colourful representation of how you are right; others are wrong.

    I get it....

    Not all others
    I'm not who you think i am....

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