Here we go with Iran

smithnic
smithnic Posts: 1,565
edited July 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh

it's pretty long, but worth the read.
Go Get 'Em Tigers!
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    was going to post this. great read.
  • DixieN
    DixieN Posts: 351
    I saw a great bumper sticker yesterday...It had "IRA" followed by the "Q" heading down and the "N" from above replacing it in "speedometer" style. Whoever came up with that...brilliant.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    Tribute to fanch.
    DixieN wrote:
    I saw a great bumper sticker yesterday...It had "IRA" followed by the "Q" heading down and the "N" from above replacing it in "speedometer" style. Whoever came up with that...brilliant.

    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/21/100-bumper-stickers/

    Stuff White People Like
    #100 Bumper Stickers
    May 21, 2008 by clander


    It is a fact that white people will never turn down an opportunity to enlighten other people on the correct way to think. While this is very easy to do through email or face to face conversation, it is exceptionally difficult to do while driving a car. Fortunately for white people there is a solution that is both popular and ineffective: bumper stickers.

    Before talking about the types of bumper stickers that white people like, it’s very important to get an understanding about layout and placement. When a white person drives an older car (6+ years old) that has a resale value under $2000, they will coat the entire backside of the car in bumper stickers. Because of the abundance of space they are free to include stickers from all areas of white support: music, politics, the environment, insults to right wing politicians, and various movements that tell people to keep a city “weird.”

    But when white people have a nice new car such as a Prius or an Audi station wagon, the fear of losing resale value prevents them from applying more than one sticker. Therefore that one sticker must properly capture the essence of the car and the political views of the driver.

    The safest and most accepted choice for a sticker is always one that supports a Democratic Presidential candidate (Ralph Nader is an acceptable substitute). As of February 2008, white law requires an Obama 08 bumper sticker to be placed on the back of every Prius. Though these stickers reach peak effectiveness during an election year, it is acceptable to leave this sticker on the car until the next election regardless of whether or not the candidate actually won. If it’s a disputed election like in 2000, the sticker can be left on for the life of the car.
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    _outlaw wrote:
    Tribute to fanch.

    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/21/100-bumper-stickers/

    Stuff White People Like
    #100 Bumper Stickers
    May 21, 2008 by clander

    It is a fact that white people will never turn down an opportunity to enlighten other people on the correct way to think. While this is very easy to do through email or face to face conversation, it is exceptionally difficult to do while driving a car. Fortunately for white people there is a solution that is both popular and ineffective: bumper stickers.

    Fantastic work!
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    _outlaw wrote:
    Tribute to fanch.



    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/21/100-bumper-stickers/

    Stuff White People Like


    ***Winner of worst website on the internet***

    Flip it around and it would be racist.
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    unsung wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    Tribute to fanch.



    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/21/100-bumper-stickers/

    Stuff White People Like


    ***Winner of worst website on the internet***

    Flip it around and it would be racist.

    Stuff White People Like
    #101 Being Offended
    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/28/101-being-offended/

    To be offended is usually a rather unpleasant experience, one that can expose a person to intolerance, cultural misunderstandings, and even evoke the scars of the past. This is such an unpleasant experience that many people develop a thick skin and try to only be offended in the most egregious and awful situations. In many circumstances, they can allow smaller offenses to slip by as fighting them is a waste of time and energy. But white people, blessed with both time and energy, are not these kind of people. In fact there are few things white people love more than being offended.

    Naturally, white people do not get offended by statements directed at white people. In fact, they don’t even have a problem making offensive statements about other white people (ask a white person about “flyover states”). As a rule, white people strongly prefer to get offended on behalf of other people.

    It is also valuable to know that white people spend a significant portion of their time preparing for the moment when they will be offended. They read magazines, books, and watch documentaries all in hopes that one day they will encounter a person who will say something offensive. When this happens, they can leap into action with quotes, statistics, and historical examples. Once they have finished lecturing another white person about how it’s wrong to use the term “black” instead of “African-American,” they can sit back and relax in the knowledge that they have made a difference.

    White people also get excited at the opportunity to be offended at things that are sexist and/or homophobic. Both cases offering ample opportunities for lectures, complaints, graduate classes, lengthy discussions and workshops. All of which do an excellent job of raising awareness among white people who hope to change their status from “not racist” to “super not racist.”

    Another thing worth noting is that the threshold for being offended is a very important tool for judging and ranking white people. Missing an opportunity to be outraged is like missing a reference to Derrida-it’s social death.

    If you ever need to make a white person feel indebted to you, wait for them to mention a book, film, or television show that features a character who is the same race as you, then say “the representation of <insert race> was offensive and if you can’t see that, well, you need to do some soul searching.” After they return from their hastily booked trip to land of your ancestors, they will be desperate to make it up to you. At this point, it is acceptable to ask them to help you paint your house.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

    Stuff White People Like
    #101 Being Offended
    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/28/101-being-offended/
    awesome!!
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    unsung wrote:

    Stuff White People Like
    #101 Being Offended
    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/28/101-being-offended/

    To be offended is usually a rather unpleasant experience, one that can expose a person to intolerance, cultural misunderstandings, and even evoke the scars of the past. This is such an unpleasant experience that many people develop a thick skin and try to only be offended in the most egregious and awful situations. In many circumstances, they can allow smaller offenses to slip by as fighting them is a waste of time and energy. But white people, blessed with both time and energy, are not these kind of people. In fact there are few things white people love more than being offended.

    Naturally, white people do not get offended by statements directed at white people. In fact, they don’t even have a problem making offensive statements about other white people (ask a white person about “flyover states”). As a rule, white people strongly prefer to get offended on behalf of other people.

    It is also valuable to know that white people spend a significant portion of their time preparing for the moment when they will be offended. They read magazines, books, and watch documentaries all in hopes that one day they will encounter a person who will say something offensive. When this happens, they can leap into action with quotes, statistics, and historical examples. Once they have finished lecturing another white person about how it’s wrong to use the term “black” instead of “African-American,” they can sit back and relax in the knowledge that they have made a difference.

    White people also get excited at the opportunity to be offended at things that are sexist and/or homophobic. Both cases offering ample opportunities for lectures, complaints, graduate classes, lengthy discussions and workshops. All of which do an excellent job of raising awareness among white people who hope to change their status from “not racist” to “super not racist.”

    Another thing worth noting is that the threshold for being offended is a very important tool for judging and ranking white people. Missing an opportunity to be outraged is like missing a reference to Derrida-it’s social death.

    If you ever need to make a white person feel indebted to you, wait for them to mention a book, film, or television show that features a character who is the same race as you, then say “the representation of <insert race> was offensive and if you can’t see that, well, you need to do some soul searching.” After they return from their hastily booked trip to land of your ancestors, they will be desperate to make it up to you. At this point, it is acceptable to ask them to help you paint your house.





    ***yawn***
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    unsung wrote:
    Flip it around and it would be racist.

    This is leaping into action by giving an example. Now, unsung can sit back & relax, knowing that he/she has made a difference by raising awareness.
    Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    fanch75 wrote:
    This is leaping into action by giving an example. Now, unsung can sit back & relax, knowing that he/she has made a difference by raising awareness.


    Whatever.

    The website is childish. I also find it weak that people constantly refer to it during what would normally be considered a serious conversation.
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    unsung wrote:
    Whatever.

    The website is childish. I also find it weak that people constantly refer to it during what would normally be considered a serious conversation.

    Raising awareness is also awesome because once you raise awareness to an acceptable, aribtrary level, you can just back off and say “Bam! did my part. Now it’s your turn. Fix it.”

    So to summarize - you get all the benefits of helping (self satisfaction, telling other people) but no need for difficult decisions or the ensuing criticism (how do you criticize awareness?). Once again, white people find a way to score that sweet double victory.

    Popular things to be aware of: The Environment, Diseases like Cancer and AIDS, Africa, Poverty, Anorexia, Homophobia, Midde School Field Hockey/Lacrosse teams, Drug Rehab, and political prisoners.
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  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    Iran Leader Plays Down War Talk

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7495869.stm
  • unsung
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    fanch75 wrote:
    Once again, white people find a way to score that sweet double victory.

    Popular things to be aware of: The Environment, Diseases like Cancer and AIDS, Africa, Poverty, Anorexia, Homophobia, Midde School Field Hockey/Lacrosse teams, Drug Rehab, and political prisoners.


    So it is popular for white people to care about these issues? People of other races and colors don't care about these things?

    I just don't see how these things should fall on some lame list like white people are in some exclusive group that supports the issues. The website is pointless and people who post references to it when it is obvious that ALL people care about the same things are just as clueless.

    Where is the list on what black people like? The list on what Jewish people like? None exist, at least not in popular culture because you would be labeled a racist or a bigot. I don't find it acceptable to make a list about white people either, and certainly won't accept it for use as some 'source' during any serious conversation.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,295
    unsung wrote:
    _outlaw wrote:
    Tribute to fanch.



    http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/05/21/100-bumper-stickers/

    Stuff White People Like


    ***Winner of worst website on the internet***

    Flip it around and it would be racist.

    How could someone possibly be offended about fried chicken and watermelon?
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    fanch75 wrote:
    Raising awareness is also awesome because once you raise awareness to an acceptable, aribtrary level, you can just back off and say “Bam! did my part. Now it’s your turn. Fix it.”
    :D
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    unsung wrote:
    I just don't see how these things should fall on some lame list like white people are in some exclusive group that supports the issues. The website is pointless and people who post references to it when it is obvious that ALL people care about the same things are just as clueless.

    I don't find it acceptable to make a list about white people either, and certainly won't accept it for use as some 'source' during any serious conversation.

    Perhaps you would feel better about discussing tour statistics, since there is a fine thread about all of the songs played on this recent grand tour.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5630816&postcount=35
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    unsung wrote:

    I just don't see how these things should fall on some lame list like white people are in some exclusive group that supports the issues. The website is pointless and people who post references to it when it is obvious that ALL people care about the same things are just as clueless.

    You're overthinking things. It's just for fun. You remember fun, don't you?
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    for the least they could possibly do
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    unsung wrote:

    How could someone possibly be offended about fried chicken and watermelon?


    http://youtube.com/watch?v=wJ4B7G8Rw3Q

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=b5OBNhkQZyk

    :D

    "if you don't like chicken and watermelon then something's wrong w/ you, motherfucker"
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    El_Kabong wrote:
    "if you don't like chicken and watermelon then something's wrong w/ you, motherfucker"

    I agree with that shit. I could eat both every day of my life. Not only that, I'd be healther than all you fast/junk food eating people.
    Do you remember Rock & Roll Radio?
  • Sludge Factory
    Sludge Factory Posts: 976
    fanch75 wrote:
    I agree with that shit. I could eat both every day of my life. Not only that, I'd be healther than all you fast/junk food eating people.


    I used to love watermelon but then one day I took a huge bowl of it outside and gorged myself on it and became sick from eating too much of it. Needless to say I hated it for years (I'm talking around 10 years at least). I'm only now starting to reacquaint myself with and court the love I once knew from my childhood.

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