I'm sitting in a Pro Life meeting right now...

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  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    mdg164 wrote:
    You are basically trying to equate evil terrorists that want to kill US citizens, to unborn babies that are aborted because mommy couldn't keep her legs shut.

    Do you not think that's a gross oversimplification of both situations?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,838
    josevolution wrote:
    this will get very messy ...


    Yep...and it will go basically no where. Hence post #9...
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    mdg164 wrote:
    Criminals don't obtain guns legally, if legal guns were taken away, crime would skyrocket. This has happened everywhere a government has taken the guns from the people.

    Life is a very fragile thing, it's not that hard to kill someone with your bare hands.

    No I think it's much harder to kill someone with your bare hands then with a gun. you can be forty feet away and kill them with a gun.

    the real problem with legal guns for me is that too many IDIOTS have access to them. If you have a gun to keep in your house in case of a break-in, that's fine. If you hunt, fine, go ahead and hunt. but some people fuck around with guns like they're toys. the hicks who shoot at stop signs and do crazy shit. it's not a fucking game.

    I'm biased because I had a friend who, idiotically, shot himself dead when playing with a gun while all drunk. God rest his soul....but he's the type of idiot I'm talking about. Playing with it like it's was a fucking toy. And I have seen him do it before once when I was up his house. and I went out to have a smoke because I just wasn't about to be around a gun for no reason. I think it was about two months later that he was fooling around in the same manner and killed himself. I miss him, he was a good friend. but what a fucking dumb ass way to die

    so yeah I have to imagine there's people like him out there who might not take handling a gun seriously and that's a scary thought.
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  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    I understand that you're really witty with you 99% claims and your "roll eyes...." stuff but be serious for a second.

    I'm not oblivious to the fact that people are murdered in all the ways you've noted. well, maybe not rocks. but it's hard to kill someone with all that stuff:.
    But the reality is when you're talking about violence there SO many ways it happens. Just because guns make violence easier doesn't make them the problem.

    I understand the point, but you basically made it sound like guns are responsible for everything wrong in the world.

    I've seen so many news stories about stabbings, or hit and runs, etc. I know murders by gunshots are higher, but I don't think its THAT much more than the others (especially when you think about in-home violence where someone goes nuts and stabs everyone, strangles, etc, etc).

    Anyway - its a grim thing. I just hate when people go 'oh, those NRA people are worse than the terrorists.'

    And, no, I'm not in the NRA and never will be. It's just not a fair characterization - just as if I said all Democrats wanted a free pass to murder babies...
  • Great White North
    Great White North Posts: 253
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    it's already too late



    yeah and most of them are pro-guns too....but will always argue of course that "guns don't kill people, people kill people." true...but it's very hard to kill someone without a gun.

    Not if you're Chuck Norris
  • PrlJam27
    PrlJam27 Colonia, NJ Posts: 346
    can we move this thread already??
  • PilatesBetterman
    PilatesBetterman Posts: 306
    Okum wrote:
    Not if you're Chuck Norris
    Chuck Norris could kill this thread with his bare hands if he wanted to
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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,855
    drsluggo wrote:
    and how can people be anti-war yet pro-baby killing.

    Either way- its a huge stretch to post this in the PJ music forum - goto the political one with this crap..


    I'm not the thread starter...I threw in my 2 cents..you threw in yours


    Let it be
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,855
    3inputchick wrote:
    Catholic Church= biggest scam going



    I was raised Catholic...still kinda am to please my mom I guess


    but I do agree... not only a scam, a rich one at that
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    drsluggo wrote:
    But the reality is when you're talking about violence there SO many ways it happens. Just because guns make violence easier doesn't make them the problem.

    I understand the point, but you basically made it sound like guns are responsible for everything wrong in the world.

    I've seen so many news stories about stabbings, or hit and runs, etc. I know murders by gunshots are higher, but I don't think its THAT much more than the others (especially when you think about in-home violence where someone goes nuts and stabs everyone, strangles, etc, etc).

    Anyway - its a grim thing. I just hate when people go 'oh, those NRA people are worse than the terrorists.'

    And, no, I'm not in the NRA and never will be. It's just not a fair characterization - just as if I said all Democrats wanted a free pass to murder babies...

    agreed on the violence stuff, but I'd rather be a murdered baby then a baby born to parents don't even want me
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  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,577
    mdg164 wrote:
    Death Row inmates had a shot at life, unborn babies did not.

    For most cases, the mother who want's a "choice", has already had a choice. Pro-Choice is really Pro-Second Choice. While I agree that abortions should be allowed in the case of rape, I can see how people don't think that it's the baby's fault. People need to take responsibility for their actions... not trade it for a vote!



    Criminals don't obtain guns legally, if legal guns were taken away, crime would skyrocket. This has happened everywhere a government has taken the guns from the people.

    Life is a very fragile thing, it's not that hard to kill someone with your bare hands.



    Your trying to compare apples and oranges, that is why it doesn't make sense! There really is no such thing as pro-war. Just beacause you support the troops doesn't make you pro-war. And remember, the US is at war with evil people who have made their choices. Unborn babies have not had chance to make choices.

    You are basically trying to equate evil terrorists that want to kill US citizens, to unborn babies that are aborted because mommy couldn't keep her legs shut.

    Woah, this post hits like every propoganda point on the Christian Republican pamphlet. Well done. Wait. No. What about the gays?
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  • Dylan Stone
    Dylan Stone Posts: 1,145
    3inputchick wrote:
    I worked at a Catholic Charities group home on Long Island for teenage mothers and their babies. We could not discuss any form of birth control- no condoms- it was nuts!

    I worked on Long Island for St. Christopher-Ottilie... under the Diocese of Brooklyn

    We weren't "supposed to" either. We did anyway... ;)
  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
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    And if this shit keeps going, I figure I'm going to have to throw in my .02 also.
  • SoMuchClearer
    SoMuchClearer Posts: 59
    WOW!!! I should have known! You guys never disappoint!

    Sorry to bring politics into a PJ Forum...

    But like I said I only mentioned it because of how it reminded me of MTV Unplugged with "Pro-Choice" on Ed's arm.

    Let's put this one to bed before someone loses an eye!
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  • mdg164
    mdg164 Posts: 206
    meistereder wrote:
    Woah, this post hits like every propoganda point on the Christian Republican pamphlet. Well done. Wait. No. What about the gays?


    Wow, and I thought I was refuting all the standard liberal BS talking points!

    Why not toss in how drilling in Alaska is bad, and protecting our borders is rascist? Let's not forget the global warming scam... oh wait, it's fading so fast you do want me to forget it!
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  • Mrs.Vedder78
    Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    3inputchick wrote:
    Catholic Church= biggest scam going

    I have to agree with this....

    I'm baptized, did the holy comunion and I'm confirmed went through 12 years of catholic school and in a way I'm glad I did because it allowed to chose not to be catholic anymore once I had free will and didn't have to go with what my parents wanted....
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  • Mrs.Vedder78
    Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    SoMuchClearer wrote:
    WOW!!! I should have known! You guys never disappoint!

    Sorry to bring politics into a PJ Forum...

    But like I said I only mentioned it because of how it reminded me of MTV Unplugged with "Pro-Choice" on Ed's arm.

    Let's put this one to bed before someone loses an eye!


    Oh come on! You can't bring this to the board and expect for people to say "have fun in your meeting" and keep their opinion to themselves...
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  • not4u
    not4u Posts: 512
    ha, yea
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    This thread is like watching South Park's San Francisco "Smug Cloud" episode. Look at me, I'm so enlightened I think it is okay to kill a baby who is 8 months in the womb.
  • Lizardking
    Lizardking Posts: 936
    SoMuchClearer wrote:
    Just wanted to say that it brings mr back to MTV Unplugged... I think I'll scribe "PRO-CHOICE" in my forearm with a sharpie and then pretend to be Superman while I lay on my bar stool!

    You will just like an idiot doing it, but based on your thread posting in Porch....Not suprised.

    Why the Fuck is this thread here????? Anyone?


    Maybe you can get this for your kid?
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