'Imagine' Christian lyrics... Why?!?!?

cornnifer wrote:

You might be right, and as a Christian, i agree that the revised lyrics to the song are a bad idea. It isn't like Lennon wasn't demonstrating a "one sided attitude" of his own with the original lyrics, however. Lennon was basically saying "just think, if it weren't for those idiots that believed in God, if EVERYONE thought EXACTLY like i, the great, John fucking Lennon, do evreything would be keen". Sheesh. Anthem for the open-minded indeed. :rolleyes:
i agree the revised lyrics are cheesy and perhaps even in bad taste. Let's be honest, however, the original is a steaming pile also.

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Ummmm... no... that's NOT what Lennon was saying. He was saying that if there was no greed and selfishness and if we basically did unto others as we would have them do unto us... we'd all be a lot better off. And face it... like it or not... Nationalism and Religion are greed based selfish entities. Being, MY nation withing MY borders... or MY religion over yours... is why there is so much conflict. There is no mention of no God.

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Just like everyone else.

To a degree, you're right. You'll get no argument out of me on this one.

Cosmo wrote:

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Ummmm... no... that's NOT what Lennon was saying. He was saying that if there was no greed and selfishness and if we basically did unto others as we would have them do unto us... we'd all be a lot better off. And face it... like it or not... Nationalism and Religion are greed based selfish entities. Being, MY nation withing MY borders... or MY religion over yours... is why there is so much conflict. There is no mention of no God.

Hear, hear!

Yoko Ono recently said in an article that she believes John would've LOVED the internet, really dug it. She thinks the instant (karma - cough!) communication would've turned him on.

And I, for one, agree.

Bu2 wrote:

Yoko Ono recently said in an article that she believes John would've LOVED the internet, really dug it. She thinks the instant (karma - cough!) communication would've turned him on.

And I, for one, agree.

"We live in a country where John Lennon gets shot, Yoko Ono is standing right next to him...not one fucking bullet! Explain this to me, God! Explain it to me, God! I want it explained to me, JESUS!"

Bu2 wrote:

Yoko Ono recently said in an article that she believes John would've LOVED the internet, really dug it. She thinks the instant (karma - cough!) communication would've turned him on.

And I, for one, agree.

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Have you seen the 1968 Rolling Stones Rock 'N Roll Circus on PBS?
Lennon (guitar/vocals), Eric Clapton (guitar), Keith Richards (bass) and Mitch Mitchell (engine) are the 'Dirty Mac'. They do a kick ass version of 'Yer Blues' then a cool bluesy jam... great stuff...
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Then... Yoko steps up to the mic and starts screaming like a fucking monkey and completely ruins it.

cornnifer wrote:

Ummmmm... yes that, in part, IS what Lennon was saying. The song opens with the line "Imagine there's no heaven..." or to paraphrase "c'mon give up that silly faith of yours, its easy, Think just like me, and the world will be as one". Please. The word "God" is not used, but it is definitly implied.
Don't get me wrong, there is some good stuff in there about greed and materialism, but if he wasn't outright blaming greed on faith, he was certainly stressing (grossly exagrerating, in fact) the role faith plays in the world's ills. He obviously thought enough about it to open the fucking song with it. He didn't open with the business about greed and possessions (although he could have).

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There's a stretch.
No Heaven? Heaven is a REWARD. A reward for the SELF. People doing good things in this life in order to go to Heaven is a selfish act. You SHOULD be doing good things for people... unconditionally... because doing good things is the right thing to do. And religion holds heaven as your reward... whether it's for your charity for the poor or blowing up a bus full of infidels... Heaven is the reward.
I don't believe in Heaven... the good things I do for people is because they are people. I do not expect anything in return.

Bu2 wrote:

but the point is that Cosmo gets the last point in for saying what Cosmo just said, right above me.

You do good things, but for good rewards........or only for good people.....or only for good tax write-offs......

What in hell is the point of that? Heaven?

Just do good things. Who cares what happens after that? As long as you know you did a good thing, that's what matters in the end.

If there is a heaven that rewards you for thinking like that, so be it. Enjoy the streamers and balloons and cake that await you.

If there isn't, so what?

but that sounds like living for today....hang on a sec....

Ahnimus wrote:

Why would you do that? Why?

agreed, especially when a better spoof has been out there for YEARS...:)

Imagine there's no liberals
It's easy if you try
No Feminazi's
None of Billy's lies
No environmental wackos
Lying to our kids
You, you may not like Bill Clinton
Well, you're not the only one

Imagine the truth about the 80's
Even if you can
High schools without condoms
And no brand new health plan
Imagine all the people
Paying their own way
You, you may say I'm a dreamer
But, I'm not the only one
We should have listened to Rush Limbaugh
Then maybe George Bush might have won Bush I I think

Imagine Hillary baking cookies
I know it's very hard
No lesbians playing soldier
Or dragging tracks in the yard
What if Ronald Reagan
Could have had four terms
You, you may say I'm a dreamer
I'm not the only one
I hope some day you'll read "See I Told You So"
Then the world will live as one


Glenn Beck's spoof of a Conservative Xmas is even better:

So this is Christmas
Conservatives cry
Cause children are happy
And we want them to die

War mongering Christmas
We all had some fun
Bombing all the A-rabs
And starving their young

Conservative Christmas
Drive my SUV
Right over the homeless
Speed bump them with glee

Conservative Christmas
What a happy day
‘Cause we just stole 4 million
From your 401k’s

An intolerant Christmas
On the colored we spit
And beat them for crimes that
They did not commit

Conservative Christmas
Have a happy new year
Unless you’re a red man
Black, yellow or queer

There’s a new Christmas anthem
On this holiday
For all those who hate us
No matter what we say

A Conservative Christmas
Have a great holiday
Unless of course you’re a liberal
Or a conservative gay

A Conservative Christmas
And a write off next year
Pray for a bull market
And go kill a deer

We’re war mongers
Love no longer
White race stronger
Blah Blah Blah Blahhhhh


in the end, lighten up you people

Cosmo wrote:

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There's a stretch.
No Heaven? Heaven is a REWARD. A reward for the SELF. People doing good things in this life in order to go to Heaven is a selfish act. You SHOULD be doing good things for people... unconditionally... because doing good things is the right thing to do. And religion holds heaven as your reward... whether it's for your charity for the poor or blowing up a bus full of infidels... Heaven is the reward.
I don't believe in Heaven... the good things I do for people is because they are people. I do not expect anything in return.

Exactly