Eddie Vedder is an Atheist...and I'm proud of him.

Bathgate66 · July 2008

Ed also says every night , they are going to break the curfew and play all night,..( not the song )

Maybe he made a remark once, ( about no god )

but exactly who is Ed referring to in Marker In The Sand, when he says

God, what do you say? What do you say?

Calling out,......... Calling out.
Calling out,......... I'm calling you out.

bootlegger10 · July 2008

muppet wrote:

I've been reading a lot of Richard Dawkins, who's probably most famous for his book The God Delusion. I don't fully agree with him all the time, and at the end of the day he's a bit of a douchebag, but it's an interesting read.

The "End of Reason" by Ravi Zacharias is a good book that counteracts the famous atheism books. You might like it.

1wrdistillbelieve · July 2008

is belief in the game, controls that
keeps us in a box of fear
we ever linger
voice inside
so
drown now
drown you are
you are a furry thing.... gotta love that song!

DiRtyFranK38 · July 2008

bootlegger10 wrote:

That is where the Atheist and religious argument converge. At some point there had to have been a beginning. Neither side can show for fact they are correct.

exactly .. and that's what just leaves us to ponder on our own. we'll never know the truth .. until maybe after we die. that's whole other story.

John Briggs 2008 wrote:

Like the bible though, Ed contradicts himself more than often. The guy is spiritual, he just doesn't buy into the standardized God and Bible routine. I do not either but I have a perspective about all things connected just the same. I say do what you do and it is what it is.

i agree. i think ed is a bit unsure about his opinion on God and religion and is just trying to not focus on it, but focus on being a good person and making a difference in the life he knows he is living. kind of what faithful is about.

Bathgate66 wrote:

Ed also says every night , they are going to break the curfew and play all night,..( not the song )

Maybe he made a remark once, ( about no god )

but exactly who is Ed referring to in Marker In The Sand, when he says

God, what do you say? What do you say?

Calling out,......... Calling out.
Calling out,......... I'm calling you out.

lets not forget also in the iconoclasts show with laird hamilton, that surfing show ed was on, when he saw the beutiful land he said something like "now it's things like this that give me hope that God actually does exist."

and in the garden 03 dvd after they play either wishlist or faithful, i forget, but ed trys to tell them something about belief and all that, but then says something like "well a belief in something greater, that's all i'm trying to say."

ed is a spiritual guy. his opinions are just as unsure as lots of us. he is not an atheist. he is undecided.

In My Dreams · July 2008

He made a reference to God, "So help me God" in Story Tellers.

Hey, I'm atheist too and also feel more comfortable around like minded people. I wonder if Eddie is changing his mind about it.

smithnic · July 2008

Again, Wikipedia and everyone here is taking his stage banter as truth. He is PERFORMING and his stage banter is just banter, not to be taken as any semblance of truth whatsoever.

Who gives a shit what he believes in??

And now a quote from Larry David:

"If you believe that god talks to you, you should be locked up like the Son of Sam"

In My Dreams · July 2008

smithnic wrote:

And now a quote from Larry David:

"If you believe that god talks to you, you should be locked up like the Son of Sam"

Good one!

1wrdistillbelieve · July 2008

In My Dreams wrote:

Good one!

I love your Rush tag...cool!

12345AGNST1 · July 2008

LIES!!! Given To Fly is about god!!!! Ed is no atheist!

i am a target · July 2008

perhaps we should all concern ourselves with what WE believe in and not what others do...

LedZepFan · July 2008

hobbes wrote:

perhaps we should all concern ourselves with what WE believe in and not what others do...

but i thought the only reason we came on this board was to disect the psyches of all the band members? or maybe just Ed?

leiniebock · July 2008

I'm pretty sure Ed made a comment at MSG a couple weeks back about thanking god but he didn't believe in him. Something along those lines. Need to wait for the bootleg...

So I don't think he's changed his mind. I'm atheist and say things like "god only knows" just from habit. But I guess that expression still makes sense as in no one knows.

And I always thought of Marker in the Sand kind of "If you are there is a god, where the hell are you?" kind of take? Cynically calling out god.

Carlos D · July 2008

The Long Road wrote:

This is from wikipedia in regards to eddie's religious beliefs. And I agree with this statement 100%. How many people have died and will die in this world in the name of Religion? My two friends would still be alive and working in the World Trade Center right now, if it weren't for religion playing such a major part in the destruction caused on 9/11. There is nothing wrong with being an atheist. Some people believe in God....and some don't.

Stalin and Hitler were Atheists...that doesn't mean all Atheists are bad so I don't think you should use just cases were religion was harmful to describe it as a menace.I could just as easily ask how many people will fix their lives and want to become better people because of religion.
People are good and bad,if there was no religion I'm sure they'd find something else to fight about.Personally I couldn't care what you believe in as long as you're a good person and despite what numerous religions say I don't think God cares that much either.

eldarion75 · July 2008

hobbes wrote:

perhaps we should all concern ourselves with what WE believe in and not what others do...

exactly...Ed's always skirted around the God issue..he may be Bono's biggest fan but would you really want him turning into him??

and by the way..faithfull is about the lack of God..or anyone out there...read the lyrics..

EvilRabbit · July 2008

Carlos D wrote:

Stalin and Hitler were Atheists...that doesn't mean all Atheists are bad so I don't think you should use just cases were religion was harmful to describe it as a menace.I could just as easily ask how many people will fix their lives and want to become better people because of religion.

Stalin and Hitler didn't do what they did BECAUSE they were atheists. They were inherently evil and just happened to be atheists. It's a fallacy to say they did what they did because of their lack of belief in a God.

In contrast, the evil perpetuated by religious fundamentalists (be they Muslim or Christian) can be directly linked to their beliefs.

Ledbetterman10 · July 2008

The Long Road wrote:

This is from wikipedia in regards to eddie's religious beliefs. And I agree with this statement 100%. How many people have died and will die in this world in the name of Religion? My two friends would still be alive and working in the World Trade Center right now, if it weren't for religion playing such a major part in the destruction caused on 9/11. There is nothing wrong with being an atheist. Some people believe in God....and some don't.

[edit] Religion
Eddie Vedder is an atheist. There have been several instances in which Vedder has made athiest statements. At a concert in July 1998, he stated, "I would thank God, but I don't believe in it."[45] When asked in a 1998 interview about his feelings on God, Vedder responded:

"I think it's like a movie that was way too popular. It's a story that's been told too many times and just doesn't mean anything. Man lived on the planet -- [placing his fingers an inch apart], this is 5000 years of semi-recorded history. And God and the Bible, that came in somewhere around the middle, maybe 2000. This is the last 2000, this is what we're about to celebrate [indicating about an 1/8th of an inch with his fingers]. Now, humans, in some shape or form, have been on the Earth for three million years [pointing across the room to indicate the distance]. So, all this time, from there [gesturing toward the other side of the room], to here [indicating the 1/8th of an inch], there was no God, there was no story, there was no myth and people lived on this planet and they wandered and they gathered and they did all these things. The planet was never threatened. How did they survive for all this time without this belief in God? I'd like to ask this to someone who knows about Christianity and maybe you do. That just seems funny to me."[46]

You're proud of him? I can see you saying "I respect him for it" or "I share the same views as him." but "proud of him?" that's something you say to your son or daughter when they do good on their spelling test.

EvilRabbit · July 2008

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

You're proud of him? I can see you saying "I respect him for it" or "I share the same views as him." but "proud of him?" that's something you say to your son or daughter when they do good on their spelling test.

Maybe he's proud that Ed has the balls to admit he doesn't believe in a God. Atheists are so hated in this country (America) that it takes courage to publicly express such doubt.

Bathgate66 · July 2008

leiniebock wrote:

And I always thought of Marker in the Sand kind of "If you are there is a god, where the hell are you?" kind of take? Cynically calling out god.

thats a good theory, but he doesnt say " God , if youre out there, what do you say, its very direct he says
God, what do you say? What do you say?

Calling out,......... Calling out.
Calling out,......... I'm calling you out.

I guess its true that one can interpret the different meanings of the same songs, in many different ways.

Like maybe he's calling out to somneone ( in jest ) that he knows isnt going to answer,.

bootlegger10 · July 2008

EvilRabbit wrote:

Stalin and Hitler didn't do what they did BECAUSE they were atheists. They were inherently evil and just happened to be atheists. It's a fallacy to say they did what they did because of their lack of belief in a God.

In contrast, the evil perpetuated by religious fundamentalists (be they Muslim or Christian) can be directly linked to their beliefs.

Hmmn...so Stalin and Hitler were just evil even though their atheist views led them to believe that there is no moral code and that it is okay to kill innocent human beings because their is no ethical reason not to. You would probably consider them misguided and power hungry.

But when Christians and Muslims kill each other you chalk it up to religion and not misinterpretation, power hunger, or evil.

over bends · July 2008

EvilRabbit wrote:

Maybe he's proud that Ed has the balls to admit he doesn't believe in a God. Atheists are so hated in this country (America) that it takes courage to publicly express such doubt.

That's not even true for the places Ed plays and for what his fanbase is. Saying I don't believe in God to liberals in New York City is pretty much just joining the crowd. Yea, I'm over-generalizing but listen to the applause that Ed gets when he says his "I'd like to thank God, who I don't believe in..." comment. It's right in the first minute of my Watchtower video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0RFOMwwFDc

Real ballsy... I doubt he'd make the same comment in the Bible Belt.

Eddie Vedder is an Atheist...and I'm proud of him.

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