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SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:ok ill ask....
what do YOU believe caused the buildings to collapse????
in your opinion.....what events took place in order for those buildings to collapse???
I just want to know what you all think melted the steel. I would like to hear just one legitimate explanation.
The melted steel is not a casual finding at all.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:I just want to know what you all think melted the steel. I would like to hear just one legitimate explanation.
The melted steel is not a casual finding at all.
i just want to know what YOU believed happened that day to cause those building to fall.....Take me piece by piece.....
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RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:There is no conspiracy. They found the WMD. The Iraq war is a success. All the govt tells is the truth apparently.
You just highlighted the major flaw in your delusional beliefs. If the US gov't had staged the entire 9/11 incident, flown planes full of innocents to their death, rigged the towers with explosives that killed thousands more innocents, why didn't they plant the WMDs to be found? That's why they went to Iraq. When none were discovered a new "war on terror" excuse had to be made. If the administration were so clever, and this entire thing were as scripted as you looneys belive, why didn't the US gov't plant tons of WMDs throught Iraq?"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
jeffbr wrote:You just highlighted the major flaw in your delusional beliefs. If the US gov't had staged the entire 9/11 incident, flown planes full of innocents to their death, rigged the towers with explosives that killed thousands more innocents, why didn't they plant the WMDs to be found? That's why they went to Iraq. When none were discovered a new "war on terror" excuse had to be made. If the administration were so clever, and this entire thing were as scripted as you looneys belive, why didn't the US gov't plant tons of WMDs throught Iraq?
That is totally unrelated and easily explainable, and for a few reasons.
If you could address my question instead side stepping it.
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please address the question.....SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:i just want to know what YOU believed happened that day to cause those building to fall.....Take me piece by piece.....
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SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:i just want to know what YOU believed happened that day to cause those building to fall.....
The crux of the argument is, stemming from my original question, which need not be responded to with yet another question in order to to sidetrack the immediate issue...
Somebody explain to me why (or how) you think the steel melted?
How was this possible from jet fuel exactly?Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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please inform the rest of us of what YOU believed happened in order for those buildings to collapse like they did.....RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:The crux of the argument is, stemming from my original question, which need not be responded to with yet another question in order to to sidetrack the immediate issue...
Somebody explain to me why (or how) you think the steel melted?
How was this possible from jet fuel exactly?Take me piece by piece.....
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SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:please inform the rest of us of what YOU believed happened in order for those buildings to collapse like they did.....
I posed a serious and extremely legitimate question. No one has yet answered it.
What does it matter what I think?
Look at the facts of the matter?
Does opinion rule you?Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:That is totally unrelated and easily explainable, and for a few reasons.
If you could address my question instead side stepping it.
thx
I already did in another thread.jeffbr wrote:http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/sciam/
"Newspapers and TV newscasts reported that the twin towers had been designed to withstand a collision with a Boeing 707. The events of September 11th show that this was indeed the case. "However, the World Trade Center was never designed for the massive explosions nor the intense jet fuel fires that came next—a key design omission," stated Eduardo Kausel, another M.I.T. professor of civil and environmental engineering and panel member. The towers collapsed only after the kerosene fuel fire compromised the integrity of their structural tubes: One WTC lasted for 105 minutes, whereas Two WTC remained standing for 47 minutes. "It was designed for the type of fire you'd expect in an office building—paper, desks, drapes," McNamara said. The aviation fuel fires that broke out burned at a much hotter temperature than the typical contents of an office. "At about 800 degrees Fahrenheit structural steel starts to lose its strength; at 1,500 degrees F, all bets are off as steel members become significantly weakened," he explained."
Now answer my "unrelated" question, which is actually directly related to the lunatic ravings of conspiracy theorists. Why weren't WMDs found if this was such a masterfully scripted scenario?"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:I posed a serious and extremely legitimate question. No one has yet answered it.
What does it matter what I think?
Look at the facts of the matter?
Does opinion rule you?
i posed a serious and pretty simple question to you....
what do you believe happened to cause those buildings to collapse????Take me piece by piece.....
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SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:i posed a serious and pretty simple question to you....
what do you believe happened to cause those buildings to collapse????
You're baiting me, and detracting from the original issue. I'm not getting into it with you for that reason alone.
I could very easily however, perhaps in another thread...perhaps another time.
Anyone else?
ThxProgress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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you know, the WTC weren't constructed like other normal buildings had been up to that time. they were unique in that their support came from the central configuration of columns placed, funnily enough, within the centre of the buildings, AS WELL as around the outside of the buildings. apparently this gave the buildings the advantage of being especially stable. i imagine a 9/11 scenario wasn't factored into the equation. one would wonder how that would be anyway imo. perhaps maybe an accidental collision but a deliberate act, i don't know.
and something else i was just thinking about. BOTH towers fell in identical circumstances. wouldn't that mean that ALL the circumstances involved in the collapse of BOTH towers would have to be the same in order to produce the same effect? just wondering tis all.
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jeffbr wrote:I already did in another thread.
Now answer my "unrelated" question, which is actually directly related to the lunatic ravings of conspiracy theorists. Why weren't WMDs found if this was such a masterfully scripted scenario?
and of the melted steel? your thoughts?Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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im asking you a simple question....RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:You're baiting me, and detracting from the original issue. I'm not getting into it with you for that reason alone.
I could very easily however, perhaps in another thread...perhaps another time.
Anyone else?
Thx
i was curious to see what you belive to be cause of those buildings to collapse....
i was curious to see what events you believe took part on 9-11....
im sorry....they just seemed like questions that you would be more than happy to answer since you seem to have done plenty of research on 9-11............Take me piece by piece.....
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SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:im asking you a simple question....
i was curious to see what you belive to be cause of those buildings to collapse....
i was curious to see what events you believe took part on 9-11....
im sorry....they just seemed like questions that you would be more than happy to answer since you seem to have done plenty of research on 9-11............
Sorry I don't feel like getting into it at this time. I'm more into talking about the heart of the matter "condensed version" than all the static surrounding it.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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oh i understand....RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:Sorry I don't feel like getting into it at this time. I'm more into talking about the heart of the matter "condensed version" than all the static surrounding it.
cuz at this moment i dont feel like talking about melting steel.....Take me piece by piece.....
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could it have been possible for both buildings to collapse under their own wieght after their support structures were damaged?hear my name
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catefrances wrote:could it have been possible for both buildings to collapse under their own wieght after their support structures were damaged?
Oh please. You'd have to NOT be a loony to believe that."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
jeffbr wrote:You just highlighted the major flaw in your delusional beliefs. If the US gov't had staged the entire 9/11 incident, flown planes full of innocents to their death, rigged the towers with explosives that killed thousands more innocents, why didn't they plant the WMDs to be found? That's why they went to Iraq. When none were discovered a new "war on terror" excuse had to be made. If the administration were so clever, and this entire thing were as scripted as you looneys belive, why didn't the US gov't plant tons of WMDs throught Iraq?
This is a legitimate supposition and I'll give my assessment of it. Yes it would've have been quite easy to plant WMD in Iraq but there was a bigger plan in going into Iraq. The US needed the American people behind the country in whatever country, wherever the US decided it was going to invade.
With an event like 9/II the atmosphere of FEAR is there to change laws, deny rights, implement Patriot Acts, torture becomes permissible and so on. As for Iraq under the 9/II event it could still be claimed Iraq has WMD through the media influenced through Pentagon officials. We then can control the oil, occupy the country, build permanent military bases and most of all a sustained military occupation makes that "War on Terror" a profiteering venture...Haliburton, KBR and our US oil companies.
If we had planted those WMD's and then invaded Iraq the country would not backed US government to invade another country. They needed the country mad enough and wanting revenge disregarding any sane plausibility that these WMD's couldn't be in Iraq. Similar to Pearl Harbour, before the attack in 1941 a small percentage 15% wanted a war after the attack 91%. That's a huge jump and that's exactly what happened after 9/II.
One the country would back the US under the threat of FEAR, wholeheartedly which brings forth the many advantages above. The other not enough advantages to be had.....war profiteering, lack of FEAR with not being attacked, country not backing the govt and control of the region which then leads to other invasions like Iran.
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SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:oh i understand....
cuz at this moment i dont feel like talking about melting steel.....
Not exactly. It really doesn't matter what I think, or what anybody "thinks".
I'd rather leave pointless conversations about opinions aside exactly where they belong, and talk about facts of the matter.
It couldn't have been such a great investigation if no one can approach or explain why there were pools of melted steel found at ground zero.
I want to know why, and what caused it.Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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