Eastern U.S. to be scorching by 2080's (NASA)

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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    chromiam wrote:
    wow general weather patterns... hell a little kid knows if you cross in the middle of traffic enough sooner or later you'll get hit by a car. That doesn't prove anything. Those general patterns don't dictate past temperatures or furture weather.

    When they can't accurately forecast what happens with a storm front in a 300 sq mile area 24 hours in advance, why should I believe they know what the weather will be like in 10 years let alone 80 years, globally??? And as Solat stated, they said that rain during the day drops temps but when there is no rain the temps rises... real intellect there.
    I wonder what they think will happen if it rains and the temps are cold....


    Why believe in an ice age? We weren't there and why should we believe that one actually happened. No pics or anything. Just to play the why believe a scientist game. ;)
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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    even flow? wrote:
    Why believe in an ice age? We weren't there and why should we believe that one actually happened. No pics or anything. Just to play the why believe a scientist game. ;)

    there is evidence to support an ice age... no evidence to support something that is going to happen in the future, just speculation. :)

    polaris- forcasters predicted wamer temps for the northeast a few months ago (springtime and all) ... and what happened, rain, sleet, and snow in April. Yep very accurate.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    chromiam wrote:
    there is evidence to support an ice age... no evidence to support something that is going to happen in the future, just speculation. :)

    polaris- forcasters predicted wamer temps for the northeast a few months ago (springtime and all) ... and what happened, rain, sleet, and snow in April. Yep very accurate.

    And didn't they predict one of the worst hurricane seasons last year and that Katrina was just a precursor for the future.

    I think last year was one of the mildest hurricane seasons on record.
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  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    it's weird, I live in South Carolina (eastern US) and so far, this has been the coolest May I can ever remember in my lifetime. is the globe supposed to cool before it warms? either way, there's a large rock that is hurling towards us that NASA isn't telling us about to keep chaos from breaking out. it's going to hit us 15-20 years from now. so we'll all be dead well before 2080, so it won't matter what the temp is.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Solat13 wrote:
    And didn't they predict one of the worst hurricane seasons last year and that Katrina was just a precursor for the future.

    I think last year was one of the mildest hurricane seasons on record.

    the vertical wind shear last season offset the warmer temperatures - having said that - the pacific typhoon season was one of the hardest in recent memories ...

    i have no idea what forecasters predicted for your area ... again - micro-climates can fluctuate a lot ... and again - this is not a forecast for a day or a week in 70+ years ... we are discussing overall changes ... so, your typical summer will be warmer and drier ...
  • 3inputchick
    3inputchick Posts: 845
    There is another thread that is stating you can get throat cancer from oral sex...
    we have bigger problems to deal with!!! Global warming is nothing compared to this!
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  • Smarter_Than_U
    Smarter_Than_U Posts: 515
    I think you guys shouldn't spend your energy attacking these ideas but instead use your time finding out what even a five degree average increase in temperatures means for the future of this planet...

    For example, according to the recent INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE report: "Approximately 20-30% of plant and animal species assessed so far are likely to be at increased risk of extinction if increases in global average temperature exceed 1.5-2.5 degree Celcius."

    http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM13apr07.pdf

    This weather-oriented report everyone is bashing is just one more voice in the chorus telling us we need to do something about climate change. Of course it's not perfect, but it does provide even more evidence (as if we need it) that we need to change our ways as far as energy development/consumption is concerned.

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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Smarter_Than_U wrote:
    I think you guys shouldn't spend your energy attacking these ideas but instead use your time finding out what even a five degree average increase in temperatures means for the future of this planet...

    For example, according to the recent INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE report: "Approximately 20-30% of plant and animal species assessed so far are likely to be at increased risk of extinction if increases in global average temperature exceed 1.5-2.5 degree Celcius."

    http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM13apr07.pdf

    This weather-oriented report everyone is bashing is just one more voice in the chorus telling us we need to do something about climate change. Of course it's not perfect, but it does provide even more evidence (as if we need it) that we need to change our ways as far as energy development/consumption is concerned.

    Stop splitting hairs.

    survival of the fittest... Isn't that where evolution and adaptation come in??? Ohh wait I forgot, everything that is alive now on Earth has been here for millions of years and hasn't changed at all over that time ... ;)
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  • Smarter_Than_U
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    chromiam wrote:
    survival of the fittest... Isn't that where evolution and adaptation come in??? Ohh wait I forgot, everything that is alive now on Earth has been here for millions of years and hasn't changed at all over that time ... ;)

    You should frame this quote and save it for your grandchildren so they can know what a good person you were...
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    chromiam wrote:
    yes I do... and notice the key word in my comment... accurately. I surely don't base plans totally on what they forecast. There are way too many times where they are less than accurate.


    actually, i find weather reports to be very accurate. i think that is a myth.
  • Ms. Haiku
    Ms. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,371
    Summer hasn't even started, and I'm already sick of it. It is so humid and hazy out here. Eeek! 83 degrees is nothing really, but sure does seem hot. I wished I was a meteorologist, though. I love looking at weather, and patterns, etc.
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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Smarter_Than_U wrote:
    You should frame this quote and save it for your grandchildren so they can know what a good person you were...

    why?? cause I look at science as a sum of its parts and realize that its all interelated?? And because of this I don't discount the ability of a species to adapt to its ever changing environment???
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  • PaperPlates
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    my2hands wrote:
    actually, i find weather reports to be very accurate. i think that is a myth.

    Perhaps where you live the weather is always near the same?


    Weather forecasts being "off" more often than not isnt a myth, at least not for most.

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    i love how people will dismiss 99% of the scientific community when it comes to the enviroment.


    ALL of the experts are on board with this, perhaps they know what they are talking about? and i am usually the first one to question what i read, but when so many trained, educated, and highly talented people are saying the same thing after extensive research, i might have to start considering their conclusions.

    or i can compare them to my local weather guy? give me a fucking break :rolleyes:
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    my2hands wrote:
    actually, i find weather reports to be very accurate. i think that is a myth.

    You live in the Philadelphia area. How many times did John Bolaris call for the storm of the century when he was on the air here. Glenn "Hurricane" Schwartz is almost as bad.

    The funny thing is no one called that April snow storm we got, but they called many other snow storms that never happened this year.

    Open your eyes. Weather forecasting and baseball are the only professions you can be right 30% of the time and make a ton of money.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Perhaps where you live the weather is always near the same?


    Weather forecasts being "off" more often than not isnt a myth, at least not for most.

    Btw, the sky is blue.

    they told me today would be in the 80's and humid. and today it is in the 80's and humid. imagine that :rolleyes:
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Solat13 wrote:
    You live in the Philadelphia area. How many times did John Bolaris call for the storm of the century when he was on the air here. Glenn "Hurricane" Schwartz is almost as bad.

    The funny thing is no one called that April snow storm we got, but they called many other snow storms that never happened this year.

    Open your eyes. Weather forecasting and baseball are the only professions you can be right 30% of the time and make a ton of money.

    i dont watch the bow tie guy, i go to the weather channel for my reports, and i find them to be impressivley accurate. seriously.

    the shit is so accurate i can get an hour by hour weather report, that seems to always be correct.
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    my2hands wrote:
    they told me today would be in the 80's and humid. and today it is in the 80's and humid. imagine that :rolleyes:


    Cool beans for you, you have the one accurate weatherman in history.

    Now let me know the percentage of days he remains accurate over the next 9 months.

    Hour by hour report? Thats about as simple as looking outside.
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  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    my2hands wrote:
    i dont watch the bow tie guy, i go to the weather channel for my reports, and i find them to be impressivley accurate. seriously.

    the shit is so accurate i can get an hour by hour weather report, that seems to always be correct.

    so you have scattered thunderstorms right now??? ohh wait that's what I'm supposed to be getting but its nice and sunny for miles..... and the radar is clear.
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  • Solat13
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    polaris wrote:
    the vertical wind shear last season offset the warmer temperatures - having said that - the pacific typhoon season was one of the hardest in recent memories ...

    i have no idea what forecasters predicted for your area ... again - micro-climates can fluctuate a lot ... and again - this is not a forecast for a day or a week in 70+ years ... we are discussing overall changes ... so, your typical summer will be warmer and drier ...

    Well then, the East Coast will be safe. 57% of variance in surface temperature and precipitation of the East Coast comes from Pacific sea surface temperature. So a stormy Pacific makes a rainy East Coast and a cooler East Coast accoring to this study.
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