It's Sarah Palin

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  • Yellow Ledbelly
    Yellow Ledbelly Posts: 3,749
    Gmoney wrote:
    The only thing that makes sense about this pick is her sex. Mccain looks like a desperate hypocrite today...
    Hmmm....interesting
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    decides2dream wrote:
    i grew up catholic...and beyond JFK...it seems to me the catholics i have known have always held conservative views and thus mostly republicans. i didn't expect any changes on that front in this election.


    i am simply pointing to the fact that she is female, alone, really will make zero difference for most women who support choice.


    and solat...absolutely....VERY, very strategic. my very first thought.

    The thing is that among Catholic registered Dems, Hillary was by far the preferred choice to Obama. Hillary got soemthing like over 70% of Catholic voters in the PA primary. Palin, being a woman and pro-life may attract a good number over to the right when the alternative is Obama who beat their first choice and Biden who like Kerry and Pelosi is another Pro-Choice Catholic.
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  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    Gmoney wrote:
    The only thing that makes sense about this pick is her sex. Mccain looks like a desperate hypocrite today...


    lol...hypocrite? Obama has been preaching change to Washington for how long? And he picks a dude to run with him that has been in Washington for 35 years?

    McCain is the hypocrit for picking a conservative Governor? Where do some of you libs come up with this stuff??
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Yellow Ledbelly wrote:
    As much as the media doesn't want us to believe it we do have a choice in this election. I too think this is an excellent choice because I don't believe the GOP had a chance in hell with a McCain/Romney ticket....this, I think, gives the campaign a HUGE lift.

    Hmmm, I wonder how many homes Palin owns?

    Considering her dad was a science teacher and her husband a commercial fisherman and oil rig worker probably not too many. ;)
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Drew263 wrote:
    lol...hypocrite? Obama has been preaching change to Washington for how long? And he picks a dude to run with him that has been in Washington for 35 years?

    McCain is the hypocrit for picking a conservative Governor? Where do some of you libs come up with this stuff??

    There is nothing hypocritical about Obama picking Biden. Joe Biden is still the same man today as he was when he was first elected. He's proof that you can serve in Washington, but not be a part of the Washington culture.
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  • Gmoney
    Gmoney Posts: 1,618
    Honestly, Mccain is 72 and has had health issues before. If something awful occurs, we then have a 44 year old with 2 years experience in governing Alaska (sex matters none) running our nation. How can you base your campaign on experience, then select a vp with this amount of experience?
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Gmoney wrote:
    Honestly, Mccain is 72 and has had health issues before. If something awful occurs, we then have a 44 year old with 2 years experience in governing Alaska (sex matters none) running our nation. How can you base your campaign on experience, then select a vp with this amount of experience?
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  • Gmoney
    Gmoney Posts: 1,618
    Drew263 wrote:
    lol...hypocrite? Obama has been preaching change to Washington for how long? And he picks a dude to run with him that has been in Washington for 35 years?

    McCain is the hypocrit for picking a conservative Governor? Where do some of you libs come up with this stuff??
    Funny, Im about as liberal as you are. It has nothing to do with Obama, I'm not an Obama supporter. The bottom line is she has 2 years experience and if something happens to mccain she will be running our nation. That is scary to me. If Hillary wasn't involved in this election would mccain have made this vp pick? Not a shot.
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  • Yellow Ledbelly
    Yellow Ledbelly Posts: 3,749
    Solat13 wrote:
    Considering her dad was a science teacher and her husband a commercial fisherman and oil rig worker probably not too many. ;)
    I was being sarcastic...see this thread
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=301359

    And as for any question about her experience....how long has Obama been in the game again? Yeah, he's been around the block more than a handful of times
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    It was a very interesting move that now needs to shift the debate away from age/experience/insider/etc...

    On both tickets are old, white, Washington insider males. On both tickets are people with vast experience. On both sides are candidates with little experience but lots of energy and enthusiasm. On both sides we find an underrepresented class of voter. On both sides we find young, good looking candidates standing next to old wrinkly men.

    So hopefully we can move past the shallow analysis we've seen too much of, and start worrying about substance.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    jeffbr wrote:
    It was a very interesting move that now needs to shift the debate away from age/experience/insider/etc...

    On both tickets are old, white, Washington insider males. On both tickets are people with vast experience. On both sides are candidates with little experience but lots of energy and enthusiasm. On both sides we find an underrepresented class of voter. On both sides we find young, good looking candidates standing next to old wrinkly men.

    So hopefully we can move past the shallow analysis we've seen too much of, and start worrying about substance.

    Good point but since neither candidate offers much substance I highly doubt it will move past that.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Watching it on TV right now...are they introducing John McCain or the Chicago Bulls.

    Nice pick with a woman all about big oil John...dumbass
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  • Gmoney
    Gmoney Posts: 1,618
    jeffbr wrote:
    It was a very interesting move that now needs to shift the debate away from age/experience/insider/etc...

    On both tickets are old, white, Washington insider males. On both tickets are people with vast experience. On both sides are candidates with little experience but lots of energy and enthusiasm. On both sides we find an underrepresented class of voter. On both sides we find young, good looking candidates standing next to old wrinkly men.

    So hopefully we can move past the shallow analysis we've seen too much of, and start worrying about substance.
    Well said. I agree. But being neutral here, I think that Biden compliments a campaign of change better than Palin does experience.
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  • Drew263
    Drew263 Birmingham, AL Posts: 602
    jeffbr wrote:
    So hopefully we can move past the shallow analysis we've seen too much of, and start worrying about substance.

    This I agree with...just as talking heads on CNN insinuate that Palin should stay home and raise her 5 kids. Good ole liberal elitism...
  • Pats54
    Pats54 Posts: 276
    blackredyellow wrote:
    I just don't see it helping McCain...

    She is in an ethics situation now with her sister's ex-husband, and this will bring more attention to the state of Alaska and probably Ted Steven's mess.

    Sure, the conservatives will come out, but he just gave the finger to the independent swing voters that could have helped him. After 8 terrible years based on ideology, I don't think going to the well one more time will work.

    And while it is only a VP pick, I can't see the McCain camp still being able to use the experience arguement against Obama.

    Yes those are major ethics violations, give me a break. If her name was Clinton those would be considered minor transgressions. Obama is from Chicago the home of questionable politics/ethics. If that is the best they have against her then bring it on. I love the pick. A lot of those Hillary supporters in Ohio and PA were Catholic blue collar voters. McCain just peeled some of them his way AKA the Reagan democrats, the same block Obama is having a tough time appealing to. Obama to me carries himself and acts like he knows it all. He is like the athlete on the field who has no clue but thinks he is the star of the team. I laugh every time I see him and it is funny to see how mindless people buy into someone like him.
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    Clearly a political move to pick up fence sitting Hillary supporters.
    I guess it's going to be tough for McCain to go on the experience card anymore.
  • catch22
    catch22 Posts: 1,081
    decides2dream wrote:
    VERY strategic.


    mixed race dude goes with the older white guy to 'balance' himself out....the old white guy goes with a female to 'balance' himself out. interesting, interesting. of course, i am more interested in who the president is....so no swaying with VP choices. obama is it for me. i just hope that as many say lots are voting for obama simply b/c he is black :rolleyes:...no one is 'dazzled' simply by the idea of a female VP. sure, mccain is old, so she could get the top job.....but none the less.......she still is 'only' VP....so go with the prez candidate of importance!

    to the post above, most women will go with the presidential candidate who BESt represents women's rights/choices....and that would be obama by a landslide over mccain, no matter who he chose for VP.

    kinda what i was thinking. whatever else mccain's choice does, it takes a little thunder from obama's claims that this is same old. if mccain had picked another old white dude, i think he was a goner. but just having a woman helps people recall a little bit of his "maverick" reputation from 8 years ago. i think it was a good call on his part. independent voters won't know she's a hard-line nutcase, they'll just see mccain has a younger woman as a running mate and then obama's claims that the repubs are just the same old party of old white folks will be that much less effective.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    mca47 wrote:
    Clearly a political move to pick up fence sitting Hillary supporters.
    I guess it's going to be tough for McCain to go on the experience card anymore.

    Yup, just as Obama's pick made it tough for his campaign to play the age/health card or the Washington Insider card anymore.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Watching it on TV right now...are they introducing John McCain or the Chicago Bulls.

    Nice pick with a woman all about big oil John...dumbass

    I guess Biden being in the pocket of the credit card companies is much better. ;)
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  • carolinabeerguy
    carolinabeerguy Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,517
    She definitely looks better than Cheney!

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