It's Sarah Palin

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    I say no because people think governor is better experience than is Senator.


    Governor is better than Senator. ;)
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    macgyver06 wrote:
    did geraldine have sex appeal?

    You mean to tell me you wouldn't be all over this?????
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    I don't see much sex appeal in Palin either
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    Yeah, but she was running against the most beloved president in US history. This one against a black candidate with MUCH less experience than the top of her ticket.

    Actually her "experience" level could come into question in foreign policy, except the Obama camp cannot question it because of his.

    The question is, does this keep McCain from questioning Obama's experience. Not only because of his running mate's lack of experience but because of his age and the likelyhood that she will be president in the next 4 years? I say no because people think governor is better experience than is Senator.

    Well Obama is questioning McCain's judgment when his VP voted against the first Gulf War in Kuwait and for the Iraq war. I guess Biden feels the Iraq invasion in 2003 was more justifiable than attacking Iraq after it had invaded another country. ;)
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    From what I know about Palin she seems like a good pick. From her actions she seems honest and wants to do what is in the best interest of her constituants not her party. I think the down side to her is that many people have no idea who she is. As i stated before there are probably many people who can't even find Alaska on a map. A lot of people already know Biden and where he stands on many issues because of his previous campaigns for President. The McCain/pPalin campaign is going to have to waste a lot of time explaining who this woman is why the Dems can use that time to attack her. Either way I like her.
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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    cincybearcat wrote:
    By the way...I think this is a terrific pick.

    I look forward to learning even more about her and hope she can help be the future of the republican party.

    I can see it know...Obama talks of change then picks a guy that's been in the Senate since 1972 to be his top white guy. :) While McCain's first major decision as a presidential candiate is picking a woman VP...which of those is change?

    I'm pretty excited for the next couple of months.



    mccain picked himself a female who's views mirror his own...old white guy views......pro-life, pro-NRA, and least that is what i am reading so far....so not much 'change' there...except for gender. those who think hillary supporters will go ga-ga over this choice, grossly underestimate women. women will not chooce a woman simply b/c she is a woman. they choose a candidate at least partly based on what he/she offers FOR women, and a prolifer is NOT the choice most women, and most certainly not hillary supporters...would choose. hell, i am a woman and i have been thinking obama for a long time now.
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  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Solat13 wrote:
    True, but McCain has said he wants only term. Which could set up in 2012 Hillary vs. Palin meaning there would be a female president for the first time.



    most people don't think that far ahead when in the voter's booth. hell it's difficult enough to get em to think about the candidates in the running right now. ;)


    and while i would LOVE to see a female president...i don't want it to happen 'just' to have a female prsident, but a candidate i believe in. we'll see what hillary has to offer down the road....but NO way would i support a pro-life conservative candidate, ever....male or female.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    decides2dream wrote:
    mccain picked himself a female who's views mirror his own...old white guy views......pro-life, pro-NRA, and least that is what i am reading so far....so not much 'change' there...except for gender. those who think hillary supporters will go ga-ga over this choice, grossly underestimate women. women will not chooce a woman simply b/c she is a woman. they choose a candidate at least partly based on what he/she offers FOR women, and a prolifer is NOT the choice most women, and most certainly not hillary supporters...would choose. hell, i am a woman and i have been thinking obama for a long time now.


    Please tell me the last time the VP candidates position on abortion did anything to effect abortion in America.

    That is exactly why I have stopped caring about candidate's positions on abortion, as Obama says...this is a big election, don't let it come down to small issues.

    I'll tell you 1 thing...I'm betting that the Dems are not happy about this. They had a plan in place I'm sure to go after the McCain ticket, and I doubt it ever crossed their minds that it could be McCain/Palin...well, for more than a few seconds.
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  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    I just don't see it helping McCain...

    She is in an ethics situation now with her sister's ex-husband, and this will bring more attention to the state of Alaska and probably Ted Steven's mess.

    Sure, the conservatives will come out, but he just gave the finger to the independent swing voters that could have helped him. After 8 terrible years based on ideology, I don't think going to the well one more time will work.

    And while it is only a VP pick, I can't see the McCain camp still being able to use the experience arguement against Obama.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    decides2dream wrote:
    mccain picked himself a female who's views mirror his own...old white guy views......pro-life, pro-NRA, and least that is what i am reading so far....so not much 'change' there...except for gender. those who think hillary supporters will go ga-ga over this choice, grossly underestimate women. women will not chooce a woman simply b/c she is a woman. they choose a candidate at least partly based on what he/she offers FOR women, and a prolifer is NOT the choice most women, and most certainly not hillary supporters...would choose. hell, i am a woman and i have been thinking obama for a long time now.

    True, but many Catholics which make up 26% of the voting population will sway over especially after the Pelosi trying to define abortion flap. I mean having a female pro-life vp against Beiden a pro-choice Catholic will make the decision easier for them to switch to the right.

    One of the main reasons Kerry lost is even though he is Catholic he lost the Catholic vote to W.

    I can't see how Catholics are going to switch back to the left in this election.

    It was a great strategic move by McCain.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    decides2dream wrote:
    but NO way would i support a pro-life conservative candidate, ever....male or female.


    Well then, it doesn't really matter what you think abotu McCain's choice then does it, it doesn't matter at all.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Please tell me the last time the VP candidates position on abortion did anything to effect abortion in America.

    That is exactly why I have stopped caring about candidate's positions on abortion, as Obama says...this is a big election, don't let it come down to small issues.

    I'll tell you 1 thing...I'm betting that the Dems are not happy about this. They had a plan in place I'm sure to go after the McCain ticket, and I doubt it ever crossed their minds that it could be McCain/Palin...well, for more than a few seconds.


    just so everyone is aware... McCain is pro life but he has no intention of making that the law.. HE USES HIS OWN MIND.. not his parties.
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    decides2dream wrote:
    mccain picked himself a female who's views mirror his own...old white guy views......pro-life, pro-NRA, and least that is what i am reading so far....so not much 'change' there...except for gender. those who think hillary supporters will go ga-ga over this choice, grossly underestimate women. women will not chooce a woman simply b/c she is a woman. they choose a candidate at least partly based on what he/she offers FOR women, and a prolifer is NOT the choice most women, and most certainly not hillary supporters...would choose. hell, i am a woman and i have been thinking obama for a long time now.

    Exactly. VP picks are basically just wrapping paper on a gift. Not needed, but it's gets the media's dicks hard for a couple of days and gives you a decent boost.

    Women will not vote for a man who has voted against equal pay for women every time since he has been in the Senate or against a woman's right to choice.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Please tell me the last time the VP candidates position on abortion did anything to effect abortion in America.

    That is exactly why I have stopped caring about candidate's positions on abortion, as Obama says...this is a big election, don't let it come down to small issues.

    I'll tell you 1 thing...I'm betting that the Dems are not happy about this. They had a plan in place I'm sure to go after the McCain ticket, and I doubt it ever crossed their minds that it could be McCain/Palin...well, for more than a few seconds.

    I like Palin, but she is inexperienced an opens up a lot of hole for the Dems to attack. McCain's campaign is going to have to spend time telling the country who this woman is, that is time and money taken away from selling himself and/or attacking his opponent.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Exactly. VP picks are basically just wrapping paper on a gift.


    Cheney's just wrapping paper?
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    mammasan wrote:
    I like Palin, but she is inexperienced an opens up a lot of hole for the Dems to attack. McCain's campaign is going to have to spend time telling the country who this woman is, that is time and money taken away from selling himself and/or attacking his opponent.


    Yes it will, I just happen to think that's it's worth it. Everyone always likes someone better before they've had the time to get to know everything about them. ;)
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Also her inexperience coupled with McCain's age can be a liability. I know one of the first things I would point out is that fact. What if something happens to McCain do we want this inexperienced first term governor fro Alaska as our president. I personally don't see anything wrong with that but you can sure bet that many voter do.
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Cheney's just wrapping paper?
    Yes. It assures you will not be disappointed if the gift is a package of tube socks.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Yes it will, I just happen to think that's it's worth it. Everyone always likes someone better before they've had the time to get to know everything about them. ;)


    I would actually prefer her as the presidential candidate over McCain or Obama.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    mammasan wrote:
    I like Palin, but she is inexperienced an opens up a lot of hole for the Dems to attack. McCain's campaign is going to have to spend time telling the country who this woman is, that is time and money taken away from selling himself and/or attacking his opponent.


    If you want change, you should be ok with this...no?

    So, it'll be issue that the Reb VP has little experience, but not an issue that the Dem Presidential candidate has little experience?
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    cincybearcat wrote:
    If you want change, you should be ok with this...no?

    So, it'll be issue that the Reb VP has little experience, but not an issue that the Dem Presidential candidate has little experience?

    That's why this is probably an OK choice for McCain. If it was two experienced Democrats they'd be open to the attacks, but when the TOP of the ticket is inexperienced, they cannot attack the opposing running mate for the same.
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