Reactions to kerry's comments

miller8966
miller8966 Posts: 1,450
edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
Besides other dems now not wanting the ex presidential nominee to support them heres what the general public feels in regards to the remark. From the Foxnews website:

I have a smile on my face when I tell a joke, even if I botch it. It is obvious Kerry wasn't joking, as he continues to sling petty verbal arrows toward President Bush. All politicians should wake up and realize the majority of American people have an aversion to personal attacks and tactics used by grade-schoolers. I can disagree with someone's position, while at the same time respecting his or her right to have it. Apparently, Kerry and others of his ilk on both sides of the aisle have issues in this area." — Quinn

"Kerry blew his slam on President Bush. Think about it. One week before the election, would you be talking about the education level and intelligence of the troops or the education level and intelligence of your opposing party's leader? Watch him on TV; he hesitates and tries to find his joke in his notes just as he is screwing up. What he probably meant to say is, if you don't get educated, and you don't make yourself smart then you could end up leading the country into a war. This sounds like typical liberal rhetoric and would have been much funnier to a young liberal crowd. As much as Kerry has shown in the past that he has little respect for our troops, don't think for a second that there was anything to gain from his delivered comments. Hate Kerry for his policies, not these comments." — Mike

"What good would an apology do? We all know how Kerry feels about the military. Any apology would be the equivalent of crocodile tears and only offered for political purposes after an outcry from the majority of Americans. John Kerry is an enemy of our troops and his academic, elitist, and know-it-all attitude is reflective of what's going on at our college campuses." — Bonny (Shelbyville, TX)

"Whether John Kerry's comments were directed at our troops or at our president, his remark says a lot about the mean spirit within the man. What comes out of the mouth, comes from the heart. We could use more statesmen and fewer politicians on both sides." — Fred (Cary, NC)

"I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He says his joke was supposed to have the punch line — "...just look at George Bush." But even so, the analogy he was making in his attempt to skewer the president was that uneducated, stupid people only have the military as a career option, and that's not only very wrong, but very condescending and shameful." — Susan (Baltimore, MD)

"Yes, Kerry should apologize to the fine men and women of our country serving to protect us (and Kerry's family). Regardless of the intent, he did offend! His arrogance by refusing to apologize to our troops will definitely help Republicans. If he had humbled himself and apologized, he could have bolstered his image and the Democratic Party. Now, he continues to degrade his image (and that of the Dems) by degrading not only our president, but also our troops!" — Kelli

"Kerry can rationalize all he wants about the meaning but the words remain the same. Even if he was correct in his view of the intention, he should apologize to the troops that his comments were misunderstood and were not intended for them. He should apologize for having inadvertently offended them. " — Gary

"To castigate Kerry for a remark that obviously wasn't meant to denigrate the troops is typical of the egregiously broad brush of intellectual dishonesty that highlights this political season. Kerry would never denigrate troops; he is neither that cold-hearted nor that stupid. Whereas George Washington supposedly couldn't lie about cutting down a cherry tree, George Bush is lying in cherry-picking from a cut-down aimed at him. Shame on Bush and his boys for making a stink bomb out of a foggy statement." — George (Charleston, SC)

"The word 'apology' has lost its true meaning in today's world. It has become an empty word not worth very much. Don't even bother asking Kerry to 'apologize.' The damage has been done and the hurt is still there." — JSM (Glendale, AZ)

"I am sickened by John Kerry's comments. I have a son in Iraq right now. He left college in February 2005 to join the active service. Kerry's displaced anger with President Bush or the GOP, does not give him the right to insult 140,000+ American patriots. I wish Senator Kerry well in his future political campaigns. I don't think he could win the election for dog catcher after this." — Debra (Ames, IA)

"If John Kerry has all the answers, why wasn't he elected president?" — Shawn

"Our son is in the military. What was said was a disgrace. I cannot believe what we heard. That's it — enough is enough. We truly hope that every family who have military personnel in the armed services shows their anger on November 7." — Greg and Debbie

"Sen. Kerry ought to join Al Gore on the Polar Ice Cap and just melt away. What a jerk." — Frank (South Carolina)

"Yesterday, Sen. Kerry again put his foot in his mouth. Today he put his other foot in his mouth. I know he has a BIG mouth, but he is running out of feet." — Betty (Brewster, NY)

"Kerry displayed his hatred for the military after Vietnam, and he continues do to so. I guess integrity, honesty and selflessness, the traits displayed daily by our military, are traits he tries to avoid." — George

"Let's get real. The man volunteered to enter combat in Vietnam. It is amazing to me that we are even talking about this. If you really want to respect the troops, let's give them real support: the resources that they need to actually fight the war. Lip service has never saved a single life. TALK ABOUT ISSUES!" — Douglas

"Kerry's arrogance will never let him get over losing to President Bush. Giving Kerry the benefit of the doubt though, he should have explained what he meant, and then apologized to the troops if his comments were clumsy and misunderstood. — Lanny (Pennsylvania)

"Sure, maybe the White House did know it was a botched joke about the president and the president's people, but I didn't. I guess I'm not as smart as the next guy or girl. I wonder what the families of those who have bled and died in Iraq would say to that? I really must be some kind of idiot for enlisting in the Marines, serving multiple tours in Iraq, and continuing the tradition that has gone on in my family for four generations. That tradition is serving my country." — Matt (San Diego, CA)

"No politician in their right mind would openly insult soldiers. He was obviously criticizing the fact that wars are generally fought by those from the lower classes. I don't like Kerry, but he is a veteran and his refusal to apologize is warranted." — M.P.

"I am in the U.S. Army serving in Iraq, and I am more disgusted with the commentators who are saying that all military members feel Senator Kerry referred to them as uneducated, than I am about what he actually said. DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME. I believe Senator Kerry misspoke, and the Republicans are simply trying to profit from that. I am on my second tour in Iraq, and I am intelligent enough to realize the 'stay the course' philosophy is in desperate need of an overhaul." — G.D.

"My son enlisted in the Army after high school because he always wanted to do that. He just returned from Afghanistan last week and will likely go to Iraq next summer. That young man has more character in his little finger than Mr. Kerry does in his entire body." — John (Houston, TX)

"Bush botches almost every other sentence out of his mouth. If anyone in this country should give someone a pass for misspeaking, it is George W. Bush and the Republican Party." — Jason

"I think Kerry's comments were just another one of his despicable attempts to marginalize President Bush's efforts in Iraq, with no thought for the wonderful ladies and gentlemen putting their lives on the line for democracy. He himself was a Yaley in the Vietnam War — what's he thinking?" — Bonnie

"Kerry is RIGHT ON TARGET. This administration should apologize to our troops and stop politicizing every remark made that is made in due respect about this failure in Iraq. G W Bush has set this country back decades and embarrassed us on a global level. He is a failure as a president and leader and history will not be kind. It is going to take extraordinary leadership in the next 20 years to dig us out of the failures of the past six years." — Judy

"Kerry just keeps digging the hole deeper and deeper. Regardless of what his intentions were, the statement was crude and distasteful. If he was just trying to insult the president's intelligence, then it was a tacky jab by a sore loser." — Brian

"The irony is that the military as a whole are much more educated than the people of Massachusetts who continually elect Senator Kerry. The proportion of high school and college graduates in the military is higher than that of his state. The disdain comes from the fact that the military votes decidedly in favor of conservative candidates. So the real questions are:Why don’t more liberals join the military? Why do so many conservatives join the military? The answer is very telling. But obviously I’m no Rhodes Scholar, I had to join the military and fight in Iraq! Hooah!" — MAJ Anonymous

"Whatever Kerry thinks of the Bush administration it gives him no right to degrade our troops. He said it and no amount of spin can change that. He speaks of taking responsibility so take some and apologize." — MS (Ohio)

"John Kerry was bashing the armed forces in Iraq. He, along with a majority of American voters, are fed up with the Bush administration policies in Iraq. His voice needs to be listened to. Grateful that he's willing to take a strong justified stand against and unjustified war." — Stephen (New York)

"Sen. Kerry's refusal to apologize after what was clearly an insult to all those that have, are or will serve in Iraq, makes it clear for all to see why he never was presidential material. The only 'botched joke' is one where Sen. Kerry is the punch line to a long running joke that is both humorless and in poor taste." — Jon (Colorado)

"It is obvious that he was referring to Bush. Why is everyone getting so upset? Facts speak for themselves. We should be questioning the negative responses to what might have been a bit of a blunder of words." — L.T.

"If Kerry's comments were the result of a joke gone wrong, he should apologize for it. What's so terrible about saying he's sorry, that he forgot a few lines and didn't intend it to come out the way it did. I'm sorry, but the more he refuses to apologize, the guiltier he looks." — Army Mom

"There is no way that Sen. Kerry's comment can be interpreted as a criticism or President Bush's policies on Iraq, and appending the comment to previous speeches does not change the meaning." — Brantz

"Kerry had just mentioned he had been in Texas the previous day, and it was it that context his comments were made. I knew immediately he was talking about the president, but he didn't mention the president by name and I knew his remarks would be taken out of context and become an issue during this critical phase of the campaign." — K

"I think that he should express exactly what he means instead of trying to put it in a joke format. But he should not apologize to no one. We all know that he didn't say anything against the troops; we all know he was directing it to the president and all of his people that constantly criticize him about his service — but none of them fought one day for their country." — Stef

"Wait a minute, you're saying somebody believes we're not stuck in Iraq?" — Steve (New York)

"Even if he were talking about Bush, the comments were poorly delivered. He has a hard time putting a sentence together." — Brian

"I watched the entire Kerry speech yesterday. Sen. Kerry was talking about President Bush!
The comment was the punchline of a joke. You can clearly hear the audience's laughter and jeers after the Senator delivered the line. The audience got it. The Senator was criticizing the decision-making Bush used to get us into the war and keep us there." — David (California)

"I think he is absolutely right. The Republican machine is looking for a story to use as they are in deep trouble everywhere. They need to be voted out NOW!" — Alexis (Los Angeles, CA)

"The Republicans try to jump on every little thing they can to try to divert attention away from their disasterious policy in Iraq. Never mind the thousands of Americans killed to turn Iraq into a the new terrorist breeding ground. Just focus on Kerry instead." — D.A.

"My son is an honor graduate from high school who decided to join the U.S. Army because he is a patriot. I am very offended by Senator Kerry's remarks and feel he should immediately apologize. He has lost credibility in my eyes." — Sharon



"Of course it has been hyped. What Kerry meant is, 'You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get us stuck in Iraq.' One word, 'us,' is the difference. It was a joke meant to imply that Bush didn't study and didn't do well in school. Regardless, it was clumsy on Kerry's part and is fair game. October Surprise?" — Matt (Centennial, CO)
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Who cares what Kerry said. Is he fucking running right now?
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Who cares what Kerry said. Is he fucking running right now?

    He was the front runner for the dems just 2 years ago...sure his opinion matters.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    Who cares what Kerry said. Is he fucking running right now?


    He is in the senate...who cares if someone is running?

    Still, I don't care what he said because I believe it was taken out of context really. Kerry is a jerk, but he isn't that stupid. He's just guilty of being unfunny.
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  • I'll put it very simple...

    JOHN KERRY IS NOT ANTI-TROOPS
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    I'll put it very simple...

    JOHN KERRY IS NOT ANTI-TROOPS


    John Kerry hates white people.
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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    miller8966 wrote:
    He was the front runner for the dems just 2 years ago...sure his opinion matters.
    It's his fucking opinion. Not every ones. You know people are spinning this shit. Stop playing stupid. I would hope you have common sense on this. Just admit it. It's being spun. Say it with me. "The issue is being spun"... You're smarter than that.
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMRecdL_No

    Video of Don Imus telling Kerry to stop talking
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    I posted this in another thread but I would love to see what miller's response would be.

    I swore to myself I wouldn't post in the Kerry threads again, but I'm a gluten for punishment. I'm not even going to touch wether Kerry should apologize or wether he was right or wrong. We all have our different opinion on that. I was watching the news last night and saw President Bush demanding that Kerry apologize to the troops in Iraq. Now I can't stand either of these two men and would dance in the street the day they are both out of politics, but if anyone in this country should be apologizing to the troops in this country it is the leaders of this administration. Forget about wether we should or shouldn't have invaded Iraq. I'm just focusing on the management of this war. We sent our men and women over there ill equiped. Some had no body armor, some had to scavenge through dumps to find metal plating to use as make shift armor on thier humvees. The response these men and women get by the head of the military is "You go to war with what you have." Men like Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld should be first in line to apologize to our troops and their families and really shouldn't be pointing fingers at anyone when the issue of disrespecting troops surfaces. While John Kerry's words where stupid and yes people may have been offended by them, an apology should be in order. His where just words while this administration has disrespected our troops with actions. Actions that but them in harms way. Actions that sent them to a war zone short of the life saving equipment that they depend on.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • John Kerry hates white people.

    John Kerry thinks every puppy should be turned into glue...
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    mammasan wrote:
    I posted this in another thread but I would love to see what miller's response would be.

    I swore to myself I wouldn't post in the Kerry threads again, but I'm a gluten for punishment. I'm not even going to touch wether Kerry should apologize or wether he was right or wrong. We all have our different opinion on that. I was watching the news last night and saw President Bush demanding that Kerry apologize to the troops in Iraq. Now I can't stand either of these two men and would dance in the street the day they are both out of politics, but if anyone in this country should be apologizing to the troops in this country it is the leaders of this administration. Forget about wether we should or shouldn't have invaded Iraq. I'm just focusing on the management of this war. We sent our men and women over there ill equiped. Some had no body armor, some had to scavenge through dumps to find metal plating to use as make shift armor on thier humvees. The response these men and women get by the head of the military is "You go to war with what you have." Men like Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld should be first in line to apologize to our troops and their families and really shouldn't be pointing fingers at anyone when the issue of disrespecting troops surfaces. While John Kerry's words where stupid and yes people may have been offended by them, an apology should be in order. His where just words while this administration has disrespected our troops with actions. Actions that but them in harms way. Actions that sent them to a war zone short of the life saving equipment that they depend on.

    Voting to go to war and then voting to not arm the troops= John Kerry
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    miller8966 wrote:
    Voting to go to war and then voting to not arm the troops= John Kerry


    What about Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld? We have already established that Kerry is a fucking shmuck, but I find it so hypocritical of anyone from this administration pointing fingers when it comes to disrespecting the troops.

    ps. You also failed to mention that once that military apropriations bill was presented a second time Kerry did vote yes. He originally voted no because of some line items he disagreed with. Way to only paint half the picture.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • miller8966 wrote:
    Voting to go to war and then voting to not arm the troops= John Kerry

    "We've never been about Stay the Course, George"- W
  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    miller8966 wrote:
    Besides other dems now not wanting the ex presidential nominee to support them heres what the general public feels in regards to the remark. From the Foxnews website:


    LOL ! The general public taken from the Fox news site !! I think I'll go see what the general public thinks about illegal aliens on the Minutemen website. LOL @ Miller. Wow.
  • the copy/paste technique isn't that impressive IMO, plus it's wayyyy too long

    Kerry obviously works for the GOP, that much should be clear by now.
    hate was just a legend
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    LOL ! The general public taken from the Fox news site !! I think I'll go see what the general public thinks about illegal aliens on the Minutemen website. LOL @ Miller. Wow.

    Did you read through it...some said that it was no big deal. You just ASSumed though huh?

    Actualyl, while I don't care, the public's opinion on the matter is very important. So, in actuality, Miller's thread about it is the most important thread about it. Just look at his fellow Dems running away from him. He will no longer be campaigning with anyone during this election, canceling speaking engagements, etc.

    So I think it's Much Ado...but I though tthat abotu Trent Lott's comment's about his friend in the Senate. Of course, people here bashed him...wonder if they have rethought that now?
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  • Quote:
    Originally Posted by sonicreducer
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...06Rumsfeld.htm

    that is the second time rummy has slipped up and said that flight 93 was shot down. him and george sure do need to get their facts straight because im starting to believe they are telling the truth.

    Quote:
    Originally Posyed by Dino283
    People make mistakes. Get over it.

    Advice to Dino regarding Senator Kerry, take your own advice
  • AstroFan
    AstroFan Posts: 193
    Here's a response from a group of Iraq and Afghanistan vets...


    http://www.iava.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=2128&Itemid=67

    NEW YORK - The nation's first and largest Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans organization, IAVA (iava.org), released the following statement today from Executive Director Paul Rieckhoff in response to Senator John Kerry's remarks Monday.

    "Senator Kerry should issue an immediate apology for his misguided and inappropriate remarks," said Paul Rieckhoff, an Iraq War veteran, and the founder and executive director of IAVA. "His comments, and his refusal to offer an apology, have angered many troops and veterans, and have become an unfortunate distraction from the real issues that face this nation."

    "Let's not forget that while our politicians are busy fighting each other, our troops are busy fighting the enemy. Right now there is a US Soldier missing somewhere in Iraq, but our leadership in Washington and the American media is consumed by this latest example of politics at its worst," Rieckhoff said. "It's time to get back to the issues that matter."


    Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement for the way either side has handled this.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    AstroFan wrote:
    Here's a response from a group of Iraq and Afghanistan vets...


    http://www.iava.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=2128&Itemid=67

    NEW YORK - The nation's first and largest Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans organization, IAVA (iava.org), released the following statement today from Executive Director Paul Rieckhoff in response to Senator John Kerry's remarks Monday.

    "Senator Kerry should issue an immediate apology for his misguided and inappropriate remarks," said Paul Rieckhoff, an Iraq War veteran, and the founder and executive director of IAVA. "His comments, and his refusal to offer an apology, have angered many troops and veterans, and have become an unfortunate distraction from the real issues that face this nation."

    "Let's not forget that while our politicians are busy fighting each other, our troops are busy fighting the enemy. Right now there is a US Soldier missing somewhere in Iraq, but our leadership in Washington and the American media is consumed by this latest example of politics at its worst," Rieckhoff said. "It's time to get back to the issues that matter."


    Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement for the way either side has handled this.


    Makes sense to me.

    Question...why'd you bold what you did...you almost put the whole thing in bold so it wasn't only the highlights. ;)
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  • AstroFan
    AstroFan Posts: 193
    Makes sense to me.

    Question...why'd you bold what you did...you almost put the whole thing in bold so it wasn't only the highlights. ;)

    I started off bolding what I thought was important, and just got carried away ;)
  • flywallyfly
    flywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    Did you read through it...some said that it was no big deal. You just ASSumed though huh?

    Actualyl, while I don't care, the public's opinion on the matter is very important. So, in actuality, Miller's thread about it is the most important thread about it. Just look at his fellow Dems running away from him. He will no longer be campaigning with anyone during this election, canceling speaking engagements, etc.

    So I think it's Much Ado...but I though tthat abotu Trent Lott's comment's about his friend in the Senate. Of course, people here bashed him...wonder if they have rethought that now?

    Actually i did read it so ASSume yourself. I was just pointing out the source just like many on here point out when it is a liberal source. It is a little strange you attack me and then say you dont care about the public's opinion. Perhaps you should focus on that.