Bush says: "We're kicking ass in Iraq"

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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jeffbr wrote:
    My use of success was in terms of measuring against stated objectives, morality notwithstanding. I understand your point.

    You may look at Afghanistan as criminal. I saw it as a retaliation against Al Queda which was justified in my mind. I make no apologies for that.

    I just don't believe that the way to deal with 'terrorists', or any other criminal organization, is to bomb a whole country back into the stone age.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jeffbr wrote:
    Thanks. I hadn't heard of this. I've added it to my Netflix queue.

    It's a great movie.

    John Newton, author of the famous hymn Amazing Grace used to be a slave ship master who became an Abolitionist.

    "(John Newton) Among his greatest contributions to history was encouraging Wilberforce, a Member of Parliament for Hull, to stay in Parliament and "serve God where he was", rather than enter the ministry. Wilberforce heeded the ex-slave ship captain's advice, and spent the next twenty years working for the abolition of the slave trade in the British Empire."

    John Newton is played by Albert Finney...superb acting.

    They did it back then (exploit) for financial gain...it's happening again now. History repeating.
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  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    I like it when people like to spin Bush' mangling of the English language to folksy charm that middle America can relate to. Kind of like how we all enjoyed Sling Blade I guess.
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    actually...this thread...and libs like you are amusing :D

    you are so out of touch with regular Americans...and regular people. you have chuckie schumer saying that the American troops are incapable of anything, you have absolute vacant heads like grandma pelosi basically saying they don't care what's actually happening in Iraq...they will stick to their "failed policy" talking points. The left is invested in defeat. period. and it's so transparent.

    at what point do you divorce yourself from the defeatist strategy. at what point do you put country ahead of ideology? well...i'm guessing people here put ideology ahead of country...but how 'bout the Dems? i mean, they have elections to win.

    to me...it's hilarious watching the far left take over and completely destroy the democrat party. george mcgovern even thinks you're over the edge.

    ha! ... calling jeffbr a lib! ... that's a good one! ...

    loyalty is a fantastic trait but when you are loyal to people who don't give a shit about you - that's when it sucks ...
  • FredFlintstone
    FredFlintstone Posts: 193
    Quote: at what point do you divorce yourself from the defeatist strategy. at what point do you put country ahead of ideology? well...i'm guessing people here put ideology ahead of country...but how 'bout the Dems? i mean, they have elections to win.

    Oh sweet irony....sweet sweet irony. Amazing.
    Speaking of elections....I can't recall....which party introduced the "vote" on authorizing military action in Iraq just in time for the 2002 mid terms...and then smeared their opponents and Al Qaeda sympathizers or worse??? I can't recall. Can u help?
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  • Jeanwah
    Jeanwah Posts: 6,363
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    actually...this thread...and libs like you are amusing :D

    you are so out of touch with regular Americans...and regular people. you have chuckie schumer saying that the American troops are incapable of anything, you have absolute vacant heads like grandma pelosi basically saying they don't care what's actually happening in Iraq...they will stick to their "failed policy" talking points. The left is invested in defeat. period. and it's so transparent.

    at what point do you divorce yourself from the defeatist strategy. at what point do you put country ahead of ideology? well...i'm guessing people here put ideology ahead of country...but how 'bout the Dems? i mean, they have elections to win.

    to me...it's hilarious watching the far left take over and completely destroy the democrat party. george mcgovern even thinks you're over the edge.
    Apparantly PH can't come back and justify all the points against him? And the comment that I bolded, um, hello we are regular Americans, regular people, it's impossible to be out of touch. Perhaps you are though, it's pretty blatant that are stiffly Republican unwilling to see that this war isn't going well.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    gabers wrote:
    I like it when people like to spin Bush' mangling of the English language to folksy charm that middle America can relate to. Kind of like how we all enjoyed Sling Blade I guess.

    He has a pathetic grasp of the English language.

    I'd be curious to know if any president in history (let alone one who is illegally occupying another country?!?) has referred to that occupation as "kicking ass".

    ....he's fucking insane.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    actually...this thread...and libs like you are amusing :D

    you are so out of touch with regular Americans...and regular people. you have chuckie schumer saying that the American troops are incapable of anything, you have absolute vacant heads like grandma pelosi basically saying they don't care what's actually happening in Iraq...they will stick to their "failed policy" talking points. The left is invested in defeat. period. and it's so transparent.

    at what point do you divorce yourself from the defeatist strategy. at what point do you put country ahead of ideology? well...i'm guessing people here put ideology ahead of country...but how 'bout the Dems? i mean, they have elections to win.



    to me...it's hilarious watching the far left take over and completely destroy the democrat party. george mcgovern even thinks you're over the edge.


    This is amazing. I gather that the only regular people are people who totally agree with the nonsense that you're spuming.

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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    g under p wrote:
    This is amazing. I gather that the only regular people are people who totally agree with the nonsense that you're spuming.

    Peace

    and I'm ashamed by what my country is doing.
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  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    Purple Hawk wrote:
    actually...this thread...and libs like you are amusing :D

    you are so out of touch with regular Americans...and regular people. you have chuckie schumer saying that the American troops are incapable of anything, you have absolute vacant heads like grandma pelosi basically saying they don't care what's actually happening in Iraq...they will stick to their "failed policy" talking points. The left is invested in defeat. period. and it's so transparent.

    at what point do you divorce yourself from the defeatist strategy. at what point do you put country ahead of ideology? well...i'm guessing people here put ideology ahead of country...but how 'bout the Dems? i mean, they have elections to win.

    to me...it's hilarious watching the far left take over and completely destroy the democrat party. george mcgovern even thinks you're over the edge.

    Hahaha. I guess the right is invested in "winning" (whatever that might be)? Let me know when that happens. Maybe in another 5 years, after another 5000 Americans die, we can all have a big victory in Iraq celebration. Fucking Bush should just install a dictator that is "friendly" to the US for the time being and stop fucking about. That way, he and Cheney can still make their cash and no more Americans would die for nothing. By the time the new dictator turns against America, it will be someone else's problem anyway. Isn't that the American way?
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    Songburst wrote:
    Hahaha. I guess the right is invested in "winning" (whatever that might be)? Let me know when that happens. Maybe in another 5 years, after another 5000 Americans die, we can all have a big victory in Iraq celebration. Fucking Bush should just install a dictator that is "friendly" to the US for the time being and stop fucking about. That way, he and Cheney can still make their cash and no more Americans would die for nothing. By the time the new dictator turns against America, it will be someone else's problem anyway. Isn't that the American way?


    Isn't it though.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    yeah, with the help from the austrians and opec, and you know we are kicking serious ass when the president still has to sneak into and out of Iraq, now that's control and ass kicking at it's best.

    someone draft the adult children of Bush and his administrative geniuses and send them to Iraq, bet they pull out overnight
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  • Bu2
    Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    beachdweller wrote:
    yeah, with the help from the austrians and opec, and you know we are kicking serious ass when the president still has to sneak into and out of Iraq, now that's control and ass kicking at it's best.

    someone draft the adult children of Bush and his administrative geniuses and send them to Iraq, bet they pull out overnight

    should take a picture of Jenna Bush and put her in prosthetics and post it to every website they can get their hands on.
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  • Uncle Leo
    Uncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Songburst wrote:
    Hahaha. I guess the right is invested in "winning" (whatever that might be)? Let me know when that happens. Maybe in another 5 years, after another 5000 Americans die, we can all have a big victory in Iraq celebration. Fucking Bush should just install a dictator that is "friendly" to the US for the time being and stop fucking about. That way, he and Cheney can still make their cash and no more Americans would die for nothing. By the time the new dictator turns against America, it will be someone else's problem anyway. Isn't that the American way?

    We have to win!

    It's like we're a college football team. And look what just happened to Michigan. We don't want that to be us.
    I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    Byrnzie wrote:
    I just don't believe that the way to deal with 'terrorists', or any other criminal organization, is to bomb a whole country back into the stone age.


    Umm, that country never left the stone age to begin with. Did it?
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Umm, that country never left the stone age to begin with. Did it?

    Maybe so but the infrastructure was much better than before we went in and occupied the country of Iraq. At the very least they had water, electricity, sewage before the US fucked it all up. Let's see you go without those essentials for a couple of years then you'll know what the fuck the stone age is.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    g under p wrote:
    Maybe so but the infrastructure was much better than before we went in and occupied the country of Iraq. At the very least they had water, electricity, sewage before the US fucked it all up. Let's see you go without those essentials for a couple of years then you'll know what the fuck the stone age is.

    Peace

    Or wonder why primitive people act they way they do when they are denied the basics of life, and then hold it against them as though they are modernized and should know better.

    Nice double standard. It's like kicking a dog every day, then putting it to sleep when it finally bites you.

    Pathetic.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,249
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Or wonder why primitive people act they way they do when they are denied the basics of life, and then hold it against them as though they are modernized and should know better.

    Nice double standard. It's like kicking a dog every day, then putting it to sleep when it finally bites you.

    Pathetic.

    Hey I like THAT!

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    g under p wrote:
    Hey I like THAT!

    Peace


    I'm just glad you get it brother.

    Peace indeed to you and yours.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Songburst
    Songburst Posts: 1,195
    Uncle Leo wrote:
    We have to win!

    It's like we're a college football team. And look what just happened to Michigan. We don't want that to be us.

    Are you insinuating that a war with Appalachian State would be a quagmire? I bet a guy like Purple Heart could get behind a war against Appalachian State if his president told him that it would make the streets of America safer. After all, no president would ever lie about something like that, would they?
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