Uh-Oh, 4/10 of Israeli West bank Settlements Are On Private Palestinian Lands

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Those Real Estate moguls and building contracters must love the West Bank. Love it to Death.
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  • qtegirl
    qtegirl Posts: 321
    ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:
    Isn't all of that land Palestinian? I suggest we pack all of the jews on a barge, sail it a few miles off shore, and sink it.

    That would make everyone left happy. Therefore everyone's happy.

    Peace in the Middle East.

    Your sarcasm stiffles real debate.

    All the land is part of the Palestinian mandate. However, when Israel was formed, a lot of the native people we expulsed from their land. The problem with Israel is not that it wants to exist or that it does exist. The problem is that it wants to be a Jewish State. If the Palestinians, or in general, the Arabs are allowed to stay in the area, or the ones that were expulsed were allowed to return, they would outnumber the Jews and Israel would have to become a liberal democracy, not a Jewish nation.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Rue D'Awakening wrote:
    the ol' "original sin" argument. this is exactly what i was talking about. your whole post is premised on the opinion that israel's existance is illegitimate, that it's creation was simply stealing.
    you are simply ignorant of history. if you read the works of benny morris (who is by no stretch of the imagination soft on israel) or efraim karsh, you'll learn that the history of the years between 1881 and 1949 is not as simple as you conceive it.



    the palestinians' right to exist was very high on the priority of all who were involved in the partition of palestine. that's why there were several different proposals for partition between the 1920's and 1947 and the arabs rejected every single one.




    what's arrogant is your sanctimonious polemic about israel that has no basis in fact or logic whatsoever. -all based on the self delusion that you know the first thing about jewish or israeli history to qualify you to make such condemnation. let me be the first to tell you, you don't know the first thing about jewish or israeli history. -or for that matter, arab history.
    condemning ideologically racist movements who intentionally target civilians is not arrogance, for fuck's sake. defending oneself against those who would (and do) do you harm is not a murderous way. and Israel's nuclear arsenal has never been used for genocidal purposes, or to blackmail another state, or to allow terrorist groups to attack other states with impunity. i dare you to say straight-faced that iran would behave the same way.


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