Halliburton CEO's stock rises by $78 million since Iraq invasion

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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    inmytree wrote:
    why........?

    Why, do you know? Id love some insight into how he manages his time between all the googling and posting he does. I could use some good tips on time management.
    Why go home

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Why, do you know? Id love some insight into how he manages his time between all the googling and posting he does. I could use some good tips on time management.

    perhaps you should google "time management"...just a thought...
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pickle/


    interesting article on time management. I have no opinion on it to offer at this time.
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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    http://www.netaddiction.com/resources/internet_addiction_test.htm

    interesting read.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    PaperPlates wrote:
    http://www.netaddiction.com/resources/internet_addiction_test.htm

    interesting read.


    and your thoughts on the original article?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    El_Kabong wrote:
    and your thoughts on the original article?

    I have to actually offer an opinion? Bullshit. I agree 100% with the articles I post. they speak for me. :)
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  • not4u
    not4u Posts: 512
    oh comeon now its no secret that the main reasons to go to war *in order* are Oil, Destroy and Rebuild to use more and make more, to become more powerfull with money to controll anything, oh and iraqi freedom.
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    PaperPlates wrote:
    I have to actually offer an opinion? Bullshit. I agree 100% with the articles I post. they speak for me. :)


    well if you disagree w/ something it's kinda helpful in a debate to express that...

    i posted my opinion already, maybe you should try reading it
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • EvilToasterElf
    EvilToasterElf Posts: 1,119
    Umm, if you're the CEO of a major corporation, and in 3 years you've only made 78 million dollars, you're not doing that well. This is pocket change.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    El_Kabong wrote:
    what's funny is a few months ago i was accused of 'beating my points to death' what's also funny is a post from one of the resident drama queens
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=2898434&postcount=24
    'at least kabong's rantings usually bear some relation to the article posted and he attempts to debate the topic offered.'

    now it's implied my opinion is 'secret' and i never have an opinion or an original opinion or 'complaint', i just 'regurgitate "articles".'

    so since everyone is in the dark on where i stand; i think this was a manufactured war over a manufactured threat. done so certain ppl can profit and loot the treasury, also to strengthen their control and influence as well as other things, but to me, those are forefront. i think ppl in this administration, like cheney and rumsfeld, used 9/11 to push for a needless war so they could have more control and influence over the region, it's resources and keeping it the petroDOLLAR instead of petroeuro. these 2, as well as several others, did it to pay one group of their old companies/friends/investors for making the bombs, then paying other former companies/friends/investors for 'rebuilding' the wreckage. not only that but allowing gross overcharges, poor to shitty treatment of our troops (the ones DYING) and after that comes to light still give them a fucking bonus.

    i think bush put the Carlyle Group's (daddy is on the board) company United Defense's Crusader system (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20020401/shorrock/2 ) back into the budget, even after the pentagon advisory board repeatedly voted against it, saying it wasn't worth the price b/c, obviously he wanted his dad's company to benefit...they got paid and as the pentagon had wanted all along, the program was dropped...AFTER the check was cashed, of course.

    i think this is a war of profit for them and their former companies/friends/investors. to say otherwise is ridiculous.

    so...there you go...the secret is out...is anyone shocked at where i stand? of course not, but that was never really the point. it was just an excuse for one poster to vent his waking up on the wrong side of the bed and another who is the epitome of 'whiney and bitching' to jump in and get some cuts, too.

    if there's anything to the article and my point of view on it you are more than welcome to express it, otherwise you can keep your personal attacks to yourself (and yes, i'm aware in a way i did the same right here, but...don't mean to push, but i'm being shoved)

    As per usual, I disagree with some of these opinions and the effectiveness of them.

    I think you put an overabundance of blame on Bush and his administration. Congress authorized the "war" and furthermore I'm pretty certain that Gore would have pursued military action after 9/11 as well.

    Secondly, it almost looks like you're implying that if the war was somehow justified it would be OK. I don't think war is ever justfied.

    Finally, I have to call into question your objectivity and the honesty of your opinions since you were in the military yourself. It's kind of like when you question the objectivity of someone who used to work in the Bush administration and now works for the FDA....
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    know1 wrote:
    As per usual, I disagree with some of these opinions and the effectiveness of them.

    I think you put an overabundance of blame on Bush and his administration. Congress authorized the "war" and furthermore I'm pretty certain that Gore would have pursued military action after 9/11 as well.

    Secondly, it almost looks like you're implying that if the war was somehow justified it would be OK. I don't think war is ever justfied.

    Finally, I have to call into question your objectivity and the honesty of your opinions since you were in the military yourself. It's kind of like when you question the objectivity of someone who used to work in the Bush administration and now works for the FDA....

    so your assuming Gore would have done the same...? I assume he would have not done the same...where does that leave us..? know-where...

    as for calling into question ones objectivity and honesty of opinions...is that your honest opinion or are you lying...my point is: if someone is sharing an opinion is it not honest...aren't opinions based on past experiences....? I would think someone who was involved in the Military would have a good knowlege base in address and share concerns and comments...
  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    there is no way in hell gore would have gone into iraq ... and if he did - you can be sure he would have been impeached by now ...
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    know1 wrote:
    As per usual, I disagree with some of these opinions and the effectiveness of them.

    I think you put an overabundance of blame on Bush and his administration. Congress authorized the "war" and furthermore I'm pretty certain that Gore would have pursued military action after 9/11 as well.

    Secondly, it almost looks like you're implying that if the war was somehow justified it would be OK. I don't think war is ever justfied.

    Finally, I have to call into question your objectivity and the honesty of your opinions since you were in the military yourself. It's kind of like when you question the objectivity of someone who used to work in the Bush administration and now works for the FDA....


    you think gore would've invaded iraq??
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    EvilToasterElf wrote:
    Umm, if you're the CEO of a major corporation, and in 3 years you've only made 78 million dollars, you're not doing that well. This is pocket change.


    well, that article is a bit old, but their stock went up from $9 in Jan 02 to a little over $74 now, they made $21.44Billion in revenue last year, their yearly revenue for 2002 was just a little over $12Billion...tht's almost twice what they made before the war.

    (thanks yahoo finance! :D )
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    El_Kabong wrote:
    you think gore would've invaded iraq??

    Not necessarily, but I think it's certain that he would have pursued some sort of military action.

    Are you saying some military actions are OK?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    know1 wrote:
    Not necessarily, but I think it's certain that he would have pursued some sort of military action.

    Are you saying some military actions are OK?


    stop dodging the points, not answering my questions and then asking me even more questions of your own.

    i think if bin laden was responsable and afghanistan was hiding him then certain military actions would be acceptable.

    now back to my point of the administration starting a war w/ iraq partly for porfit but none of it for actual 'spreading of democracy'....?

    halliburton's stock went up from $9 in 2002 to over $74 now, obvioulsy ppl ARE profiting from this war
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    El_Kabong wrote:
    stop dodging the points, not answering my questions and then asking me even more questions of your own.

    i think if bin laden was responsable and afghanistan was hiding him then certain military actions would be acceptable.

    now back to my point of the administration starting a war w/ iraq partly for porfit but none of it for actual 'spreading of democracy'....?

    halliburton's stock went up from $9 in 2002 to over $74 now, obvioulsy ppl ARE profiting from this war


    Huh? I directly answered your question about Iraq. I said I'm not sure if he would have invaded Iraq, but I am certain that he would have pursued military action post-9/11.

    We haven't found Bin Laden yet, so if that were the course that Gore pursued and Bin Laden weren't captured by now, would you be so adamantly against that military action and claim that it was faulty intelligence, lies and illegal?

    Can't you read?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    know1 wrote:
    Huh? I directly answered your question about Iraq. I said I'm not sure if he would have invaded Iraq, but I am certain that he would have pursued military action post-9/11.

    Can't you read?

    what makes you certain...?
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    inmytree wrote:
    what makes you certain...?

    Well, certain probably is strong wording, but my opinion is the sentiment of the country in the post 9/11 timeframe was to seek retribution. There is evidence in how the Democrats backed the war in Iraq. I think Gore would have taken some sort of military action.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    know1 wrote:
    Huh? I directly answered your question about Iraq. I said I'm not sure if he would have invaded Iraq, but I am certain that he would have pursued military action post-9/11.

    We haven't found Bin Laden yet, so if that were the course that Gore pursued and Bin Laden weren't captured by now, would you be so adamantly against that military action and claim that it was faulty intelligence, lies and illegal?

    Can't you read?


    you say you're not certain and i say you don't want to admit what you really think...but anyways...it depends on how the war went if i'd call it lies and illegal. if it went how it is now then yes.

    so back to the original point of halliburton and the profit from war...do you think that was a motivation in the push for war w/ iraq?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way

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