Obama's speech tonight 2/19 in Texas

beachdweller
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edited February 2008 in A Moving Train
He went off, answered the question about "Hope", and called out McCain, yet another step up the latter! Great speech.
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    beachdweller wrote:
    He went off, answered the question about "Hope", and called out McCain, yet another step up the latter! Great speech.

    Yeah, it was def. a lot different then his other "victory" speeches, which too have always been impressive. Very good indeed!
    The end may be soon for the Clintons...and thank god for that!
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    i thought it was a great speech. i nearly cried when he was talking about Ryan the 20 year old soldier who was killed by an ied and obama was wearing the bracelet from his mom that had Ryan's name on it and it said "all gave some, he gave all".

    it seems like he was beginning to lay out his agenda for the one on one campaign against mccain. he basically said that voting for mccain is a vote for the same policies of the bush administration. people are tired of the same old crap and are not going to have it this time. i am going to call it right here, obama wins the nomination and beats mccain in a landslide. just look at the total votes cast so far, obama had more votes than the two GOP candidates combined.

    i liked how msnbc and cnn cut away from clinton's speech at the same time. if i have to hear "ready to lead on day one" one more time i am going to puke...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

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  • willtupper
    willtupper Posts: 70
    Something I noticed, just tonight, is that McCain is basically running on the same platform that Sen. Clinton is: the idea of seasoned, experienced politician.

    And look at how far that platform has gotten her.

    Looking forward to Pres. Obama in 2009! :D
  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    Obama will get at least 60% of the vote in the general election, you heard it here first :D
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    it was great stuff...



    i have never seen a politician like this in my generation...


    dont drop the ball america
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    Yeah, I am very excited!
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    He was on that is for sure. He got some boos whe he was talking about imigration. I thought it was a genius move to give Clinton a couple of minutes to speak, see if she conceids, and since she didn't---motherfuck her and watch the networks drop her instantly.

    Did anyone else though see the Texas State Senator on MSNBC, who is supporting Obama, fall on his face when asked to name an accomplishment in the US Senate? Holy moly! I had to change the station because it was so awful. He deserved to be drilled by Matthews. Stephanie Tubbs Jones was possibly more awful though. I cannot stand that woman.
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    At what point does Im Still Here come on and post some link from when Obama was 5 years old and broke a neighbor's window with a baseball, or a videotape of Obama actually said the word "Fuck"...? Or any other pointless thread created as a result of some non-issue that apparently needs to be addressed?
  • redmosquito10
    redmosquito10 Posts: 568
    Anybody have a link to this? I can't find it on youtube at the moment.

    Thanks
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  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    Even if Obama wins the primary, it's going to be a tougher general election than you think. Fear is a powerful weapon, and McCain isn't afraid to use it. :(
    It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    I agree. People are drinking KoolAid if they think this will be a landslide. You can't look at Republican vote numbers right now. Republican's aren't coming out right now. And the primary season is relatively tame. The shit will start hitting the fan in a couple of months and we'll have a better idea where things will shake out. I still think Obama wins vs McCain, and McCain wins vs Hillary. So if things keep going as they appear, Obama should win. But it will not be a cakewalk. He'll have to start talking more about substance. Hope and words are great and give us all tears and goosebumps, but I've got to agree with Hillary (as much as I can't stand her) - they don't put gas in the tank. He has finally started talking about actual proposals and issues, so that's a start.

    It will definitely be an interesting race.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    jeffbr wrote:
    I've got to agree with Hillary (as much as I can't stand her) - they don't put gas in the tank. He has finally started talking about acutal proposals and issues, so that's a start.

    It will definitely be an interesting race.

    Hilary's "solutions business" BS is the exact kind of empty rhetoric she seems to love to accuse Obama of using. Both have the same amount of talk on policy, it's just that he talks infinitely better than she does. So naturally she tries to turn it against him.

    But anyway I'm sure you realize that. I'm just sayin'.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    DOSW wrote:
    Even if Obama wins the primary, it's going to be a tougher general election than you think. Fear is a powerful weapon, and McCain isn't afraid to use it. :(

    i disagree that the general election will be tougher. i think people are so sick and tired of being told to be scared all the time that it will help obama if mccain keeps playing the "they are coming here to kill you" card. after 7 years that is so played out.

    another reason i think obama wins the general in a landslide is look how energized the usually predictably apathetic youth are right now. i saw that a large percent of those voting for obama are voting in their first primary election. the youth feel emboldened and empowered right now. they do not feel so disillusioned. i think they feel that they can be a part of changing history and changing the course of this country and they see that their time to do it is now and obama is their man to do it. they are telling the older generation and the "washington insiders" that their time is over. does anyone think that young people are going to vote for mccain and what he stands for? not a chance.
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  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i disagree that the general election will be tougher. i think people are so sick and tired of being told to be scared all the time that it will help obama if mccain keeps playing the "they are coming here to kill you" card. after 7 years that is so played out.

    another reason i think obama wins the general in a landslide is look how energized the usually predictably apathetic youth are right now. i saw that a large percent of those voting for obama are voting in their first primary election. the youth feel emboldened and empowered right now. they do not feel so disillusioned. i think they feel that they can be a part of changing history and changing the course of this country and they see that their time to do it is now and obama is their man to do it. they are telling the older generation and the "washington insiders" that their time is over. does anyone think that young people are going to vote for mccain and what he stands for? not a chance.

    I hope you're right about the fear thing. It might be played out, but it still worries me. You could say I'm afraid of fear itself. :D

    By the way, I'm one of those empowered youth you're talking about.
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i disagree that the general election will be tougher. i think people are so sick and tired of being told to be scared all the time that it will help obama if mccain keeps playing the "they are coming here to kill you" card. after 7 years that is so played out.

    another reason i think obama wins the general in a landslide is look how energized the usually predictably apathetic youth are right now. i saw that a large percent of those voting for obama are voting in their first primary election. the youth feel emboldened and empowered right now. they do not feel so disillusioned. i think they feel that they can be a part of changing history and changing the course of this country and they see that their time to do it is now and obama is their man to do it. they are telling the older generation and the "washington insiders" that their time is over. does anyone think that young people are going to vote for mccain and what he stands for? not a chance.


    I completely disagree about people being sick of "being afraid". The fear card has worked amazingly well for Republicans in the past and I have a feeling it will be used again...especially against such an "inexperienced" candidate like Obama.

    Look back to 2004...
    Look back at the last time the "National Security Level, color indicator was used". When was the last time you saw a Yellow, Orange, or Red...or for that matter even heard about that method still being used. The Bush administration raised that security level like 6 times before the election. After he was in that was it. Remember the commercial with the wolves? You remember his entire campaign being about security in unsecure times and how a "Liberal Democrat from Massachusetts" couldn't possibly protect you...blah blah blah!

    That kinda shit stirs the masses of ignorant Americans to making stupid choices.

    I like Obama and think he will win, but the Republicans will come out with more fire then they did against Kerry.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    mca47 wrote:
    I completely disagree about people being sick of "being afraid". The fear card has worked amazingly well for Republicans in the past and I have a feeling it will be used again...especially against such an "inexperienced" candidate like Obama.

    Look back to 2004...
    Look back at the last time the "National Security Level, color indicator was used". When was the last time you saw a Yellow, Orange, or Red...or for that matter even heard about that method still being used. The Bush administration raised that security level like 6 times before the election. After he was in that was it. Remember the commercial with the wolves? You remember his entire campaign being about security in unsecure times and how a "Liberal Democrat from Massachusetts" couldn't possibly protect you...blah blah blah!

    That kinda shit stirs the masses of ignorant Americans to making stupid choices.

    I like Obama and think he will win, but the Republicans will come out with more fire then they did against Kerry.

    i am telling you that mccain is going to lose. he can not even get the conservatives' base to support him, nor the religious right and without that support he is sunk. people like rush and hannity have alot of pull and they are not supporting him, actually they are bashing him. i have some friends that are true conservatives and they are voting for obama over mccain because mccain is not conservative enough and they would rather take their chances with obama than vote for hillary.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • DOSW
    DOSW Posts: 2,014
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i am telling you that mccain is going to lose. he can not even get the conservatives' base to support him, nor the religious right and without that support he is sunk. people like rush and hannity have alot of pull and they are not supporting him, actually they are bashing him. i have some friends that are true conservatives and they are voting for obama over mccain because mccain is not conservative enough and they would rather take their chances with obama than vote for hillary.

    Obama's satisfaction within party: 82%
    McCain's satisfaction within party: 76%

    Not a huge difference. Of course, Obama's will probably go up a few percentage points if he wins the primary and some of the rabid Clinton fans come around.
    It's a town full of losers and I'm pulling out of here to win
  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i am telling you that mccain is going to lose. he can not even get the conservatives' base to support him, nor the religious right and without that support he is sunk. people like rush and hannity have alot of pull and they are not supporting him, actually they are bashing him. i have some friends that are true conservatives and they are voting for obama over mccain because mccain is not conservative enough and they would rather take their chances with obama than vote for hillary.


    I also think Obama will win and also have some conservative friends that like Obama over McCain too. I just think McCain and the repubs will get REALLY nasty!
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    mca47 wrote:
    I also think Obama will win and also have some conservative friends that like Obama over McCain too. I just think McCain and the repubs will get REALLY nasty!

    i agree with you. but should obama take the high ground or get nasty as well?? i saw a person high up in the mccain campaign either resigned or will resign if obama gets the nomination because "he does not want to be a part of trashing someone he has alot of respect for." i need to try to find that link. it was on msnbc.com on thursday or friday last week.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    well it should be the greatest upgrade in US leadership in our history... hope it is enough

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