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Ophelia's Nun

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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I

    Stretched green cloth's pulled tight about the board
    and gilded at the spine. It's long acquainted
    with dust and coffee rings, inkblots and thumbprints,
    and the sweat of dreaming pupils' heads
    splashed by a clap from the master.This cloth
    gives a populist codex, a prizegiving primer
    a cloak of mock spring in a wintered Empire.
    A single volume, a portable octavo,
    opening to a sepia, steel engraved portrait -
    a plate of the poet in profile,
    the bearded Laureate, drawn by Stoddart
    (the plate veiled with tissue now aged and spotted, discoloured brown) -
    affords this book the imperial air of a first edition,
    1894, with its dedicatory poem to Her Majesty
    the first in the collection.

    But the title plate says 1920, the twentieth impression:
    octavo top and fore edge folds and cuts are uneven,
    serrated insets jut out at angles suggesting cheap labour,
    stitching whispers brokenly of the Bookbinders' strike,
    and in the back of the book is a page of advertisements
    selling cheap editions of patriotic verse for a shilling a go.

    II

    Young widows
    pale
    tired
    in factories
    for days upon days
    after Armistice
    cut
    and sewed the papers,
    gathering them
    into a prizegiving book
    sold
    to teach
    their half-orphaned children

    The Glory of Empire

    as the poppy fields in France

    still grew

    under cold, forgotten
    blood,

    every drop
    a headbowed
    sweetheart's sigh

    every drop
    a life
    unbound

    ungathered.
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Right now, as in right now, and now, this now
    and this one, I am trying to say "Now
    is one round moment, one whole now, a now
    of nowness moulded in a poem"; now
    I find each now is then and that each now
    is somewhat different, but still a now
    of sorts, but not the now as was the now
    back then: oh wait, that now's now then, not now!
    Whatever can we do, to make each now
    now, forever? Now, I know! Each now
    I've written in this poem is a now
    each time you read it! That's the answer, now!

    :)
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    "We have to stop the lying men in charge.
    So, close the schools right now, and shut each small
    marketplace. Block rivers from the barge
    of trade, and then rip up the roads. Install
    within the soil the tallest trees there are;
    then live on berries, don't exploit the meat.
    Close down each sewer duct and reservoir.
    Unshirt your backs and then unshoe your feet."

    Learn how to shirk the language, shun codes, all
    shaped by another's need. Begin to grunt.
    And learn to stoop. In time, begin to crawl,
    Then go back to the ocean, splash and shunt
    across the sea without a spine. Still, then
    you'll taste where man's polluting lies have been.
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    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    "We have to stop the lying men in charge.
    So, close the schools right now, and shut each small
    marketplace. Block rivers from the barge
    of trade, and then rip up the roads. Install
    within the soil the tallest trees there are;
    then live on berries, don't exploit the meat.
    Close down each sewer duct and reservoir.
    Unshirt your backs and then unshoe your feet."

    Learn how to shirk the language, shun codes, all
    shaped by another's need. Begin to grunt.
    And learn to stoop. In time, begin to crawl,
    Then go back to the ocean, splash and shunt
    across the sea without a spine. Still, then
    you'll taste where man's polluting lies have been.

    Hmmmmm. Interesting...

    Why "without a spine?" Become a fish? Why become a fish to taste where man's lies have been?
    Liberal Douchebags that Blame Bush for Everything are Useless Pieces of Trash. I Shit on You.
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Originally posted by Barroom Hero
    Hmmmmm. Interesting...

    Why "without a spine?" Become a fish? Why become a fish to taste where man's lies have been?

    Questions, questions! :)

    I've edited out my first attempt of an interpretation of the poem because really, it's what you like it to mean that matters.

    Cheers,
    Richard.

    :)
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    Bravo!
    DO <> RE <> MI FA <> SOL <> LA <> SI DO
    1 <> 2 <> 3 4 <> 5 <> 6 <> 7 8
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    "You're in good focking luck! The greatest tongue, it flatters you!"

    That tongue's in rotten luck. It's grated dung. That matters? Ewww!!
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    excellento my good friend!
    Of course all you post are excellent!
    If being sane is thinking there's something wrong with being different....I'd rather be completely fucking mental.
    (Angelina Jolie)
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    BuruBuru Posts: 8,473
    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    Right now, as in right now, and now, this now
    and this one, I am trying to say "Now
    is one round moment, one whole now, a now
    of nowness moulded in a poem"; now
    I find each now is then and that each now
    is somewhat different, but still a now
    of sorts, but not the now as was the now
    back then: oh wait, that now's now then, not now!
    Whatever can we do, to make each now
    now, forever? Now, I know! Each now
    I've written in this poem is a now
    each time you read it! That's the answer, now!

    :)

    haha you silly man!!
    now I am confused :p

    for if this is now, what comes next?
    and if this is now, what was then?
    y la banda de Guille... cuando toca?
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I'll tell you what comes next.

    I say goodnight. Nicely. Thanks! :)
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    BuruBuru Posts: 8,473
    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    I

    Stretched green cloth's pulled tight about the board
    and gilded at the spine. It's long acquainted
    with dust and coffee rings, inkblots and thumbprints,
    and the sweat of dreaming pupils' heads
    splashed by a clap from the master.This cloth
    gives a populist codex, a prizegiving primer
    a cloak of mock spring in a wintered Empire.
    A single volume, a portable octavo,
    opening to a sepia, steel engraved portrait -
    a plate of the poet in profile,
    the bearded Laureate, drawn by Stoddart
    (the plate veiled with tissue now aged and spotted, discoloured brown) -
    affords this book the imperial air of a first edition,
    1894, with its dedicatory poem to Her Majesty
    the first in the collection.

    But the title plate says 1920, the twentieth impression:
    octavo top and fore edge folds and cuts are uneven,
    serrated insets jut out at angles suggesting cheap labour,
    stitching whispers brokenly of the Bookbinders' strike,
    and in the back of the book is a page of advertisements
    selling cheap editions of patriotic verse for a shilling a go.

    II

    Young widows
    pale
    tired
    in factories
    for days upon days
    after Armistice
    cut
    and sewed the papers,
    gathering them
    into a prizegiving book
    sold
    to teach
    their half-orphaned children

    The Glory of Empire

    as the poppy fields in France

    still grew

    under cold, forgotten
    blood,

    every drop
    a headbowed
    sweetheart's sigh

    every drop
    a life
    unbound

    ungathered.

    beautiful and very descriptive as always (and wordy!)
    I like the shift in the poem and the very different styles in I and II, and the accusatory tone in the second
    y la banda de Guille... cuando toca?
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    BuruBuru Posts: 8,473
    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    I'll tell you what comes next.

    I say goodnight.

    oh... good night
    but what shall I do now that you're gone?
    I think I'll go too, maybe after reading a few...

    gnight Fins
    y la banda de Guille... cuando toca?
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Goodnight, Buru. Thanks! :)
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    It's not too often I resort to cheap
    propagandising. Well here's my leap
    from artistry to saying what I feel.
    Is it not good time you said, 'Don't kneel
    to Bu$h and Ridge's terror scares, and shit
    to make you tick "Republican" when it
    comes to that election day?' ... Vote Kerry.
    Otherwise, eat filth on Bush's berry.
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    oldermanolderman Posts: 1,765
    i found it to be a strange lot.. some thought of the day as one in which all should be sober and bow to the ballot.. yet, most of us who gathered at Jack's Bar thought otherwise.. in fact, led by a host of characters, each to his own wickedness a pleasure derived, indeed, though never having voted, the mob decided to hang the bastard from the highest fucking branch of the closest oak tree and the process of elimination which eliminated all of us from having any worthwhile thing to contribute as, is the fact, we were all a bunch of drunks with not much, indeed nothing at all to sssss.....say
    Down the street you can hear her scream youre a disgrace
    As she slams the door in his drunken face
    And now he stands outside
    And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
    He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
    What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
    Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
    And his tears fall and burn the garden green
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    There comes, through these deep flowing ululations
    in lipping waterkissings on the verge
    of bankside rushes, wave vibrations,
    a pulse, a coded whisper in a surge.

    "Your name, your name, my love, your name, your name,
    A moving riverflush, delicious shame."
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    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    There comes, through these deep flowing ululations
    in lipping waterkissings on the verge
    of bankside rushes, wave vibrations,
    a pulse, a coded whisper in a surge.

    "Your name, your name, my love, your name, your name,
    A moving riverflush, delicious shame."

    WOW. Something about that last stanza instills in me some soul power.

    The iambic sound of "your name your name my love your name your name" and then the connotations of "riverflush" and "delicious" appeal greatly to my sensibilities. Can't tell you exactly why it gives me a good feeling, but thanks.
    Liberal Douchebags that Blame Bush for Everything are Useless Pieces of Trash. I Shit on You.
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Thanks.

    Thanks to everyone who has contributed to "Ophelia's Nun". I've had a blast on it.

    I just feel like going back to writing little threads again. :)

    Thank you,
    Finsbury.
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Long live big. :D Just as long as this boring old fart of a thread doesn't annoy anyone, I'll keep it up. I don't do this big thread for ego purposes. But it does help me to know where all my poems are.

    Okay, World Blue....

    I'll put it here. :D

    Unclose my eyes, my world blue morning love
    and lay your golden hair upon my arm;
    Let love's bejewelling whisper kissings prove
    Earth treasuries of magic in a warm
    Red sun dawning. Oh! How you now soar
    Beyond whole continents of signed ground
    to make the ocean's original roar!
    My love! World blue, world wordless, world unbound.
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Plumeria, red royal poinsetta,
    and yellow shower trees sundazzling,
    are nodding in the breeze of island shores

    and my lover's heart flies skying
    upon the blue, the deep true island blue,
    she a crimson I'iwi bird, sunsoaring,

    transcended, a golden ‘akiapola‘au.
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Years on, years on,
    Granny's irises roar in the deep rush
    rocking winded fire, an orangeblaze
    on the ditchbank from where foxeyes flash
    under an Atlantic ocean thunder sky
    in blue and gold.

    Years on they light the contours
    away on Slievemore mountain.
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I shall kiss the hands
    Kona bee caressed
    that made plumeria leis
    in an azure shade
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    ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    Finsbury....I love your thread.....:)
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Thanks, I was just checking, you know. :)
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    ISNISN Posts: 1,700
    it's awesomely wonderful......like a box of personal treasure in the attic that you stumble upon one day and keep as a secret.....and sneak up and peek in every now and then.....hehehe

    (Maggie Tulliver and her fetish.....ah the ghosts of yesteryear)
    ....they're asking me to prove why I should be allowed to stay with my baby in Australia, because I'm mentally ill......and they think I should leave......
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    John Cafferkey's red tractor, streaked with gold
    mane mud, beats the greeny boreen like a stick
    upon a bodhran, and it rattles old
    rhythms with its wheels, blur spinning, thick
    with tumbling jumps and yelps from Rex the dog
    who loves the chase of rubber on the road
    of irises and orchids by the bog
    of black Doona, deep rushing, heather broad.
    And I laugh, in the tractor bucket, rust
    reddening my hands that hold the edge
    of my groundbanging shuttle pounding dust
    and shuddering in tune as we hit hedge
    upon big hedge on taking corners. How
    the music of my land is made, here, now.
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    "This is where you were the day it happened,
    This is what you saw, this image here,
    and this is how you felt, and how you said
    the world would never be the same again.
    This is when you feared the world might end,
    this moment that we captured on our lens
    of you. You say the picture's been touched up?
    We say we'll tell you what you thought and felt
    that day and all the days that followed. Right?"
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    You and I will rise, one mountain flower
    beside ten thousand years of standing stone:
    a hidden bay's unbroken ocean tower.
    Here we'll bloom when cities are undone.
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    FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    If I fluff my feathers, that one there
    with her nose flat up against my bars
    will say "It's gonna rain!" If I share
    my perch with that big plastic thing, there's "ahhhh"s
    and "Oooooo, he thinks that toy's his girlfriend." Tut!
    if I pass time headbuttin' at the mirror
    that one again goes "Awwwww, now look at dat!
    He thinks he's found a pal!", and wipes it clearer
    for me - - AHHHH!!!!! :eek: Nahhhhh!!!!!! :eek: What's that!!! Awww not.... a cat??????!!!!!!
    What???? Just an china ornament???? Oh my!!!!!!!
    Watcha tryin' to do to me, what's dat?
    You cage me with a plastic tweety pie
    beside a china cat with too real eyes?????
    You fakkin' humans ees some tweeeested guys...

    :D
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    Still HereStill Here Posts: 661
    this is by far the best thread...amazing.

    hope no-one minds if I post my own thoughts...
    PJ: Toledo-9/22/96. E. Lansing-8/18/98. Detroit-8/23/98. Detroit-10/7/00. Detroit-6/25 & 6/26/03. Toledo-10/2/04 [VFC]. Detroit-5/22/06. Chicago-8/5/07 [Lolla]. Cleveland-5/9/10. Baltimore-10/27/13.

    EV: Honolulu-4/21 & 4/22/07 [Kokua]. Detroit-6/26/11.
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