do you think i'm stupid?

violet ray
violet ray Posts: 502
edited August 2004 in Poetry, Prose, Music & Art
~*~
You ask me to enter
But then You make me crawl
And I can't be holding on
To what You got
When all You've got is hurt
----
Underneath this smile lies everything
All my hopes and anger, pride and shame
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  • suede
    suede Posts: 247
    another good one. there are other world's to be rocked. if this person doesn't give you their time...then they are not worth your time. i learned that not too long ago.
  • Amaterasu
    Amaterasu Posts: 317
    people!! A person whoever she is has feelings too
    but you shred it as if its second nature...
    Maybe if you learn a thing or two about yourself
    you would think twice about how you effect the
    one you supposedly "love" then you wouldn't have
    to question your STUPIDITY.
  • violet ray
    violet ray Posts: 502
    Originally posted by Amaterasu
    people!! A person whoever she is has feelings too
    but you shred it as if its second nature...
    Maybe if you learn a thing or two about yourself
    you would think twice about how you effect the
    one you supposedly "love" then you wouldn't have
    to question your STUPIDITY.

    can you explain that please?
    You ask me to enter
    But then You make me crawl
    And I can't be holding on
    To what You got
    When all You've got is hurt
    ----
    Underneath this smile lies everything
    All my hopes and anger, pride and shame
  • DopeBeastie
    DopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    this poem questions one man's duplicity
    the author is by no means responsible for the emotions of the subject's other interests, only her own. she, like most amatuer poets, catharts a p.o.v., and it is necessary to do should she wish to transcend the experience ~ a rather intelligent move, imo

    to highlight and bold "stupidity" is low down, mean, hateful and selfish


    fire fodder


    as it were



    rot, even
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I side wholeheartedly with Pasta on this one.

    :)

    Thank you for your poem, violet ray.
  • violet ray
    violet ray Posts: 502
    and thank you both.

    i can't help but wonder why *my* shredded feelings aren't supposed to matter, amaterasu?
    You ask me to enter
    But then You make me crawl
    And I can't be holding on
    To what You got
    When all You've got is hurt
    ----
    Underneath this smile lies everything
    All my hopes and anger, pride and shame
  • violet ray
    violet ray Posts: 502
    .
    You ask me to enter
    But then You make me crawl
    And I can't be holding on
    To what You got
    When all You've got is hurt
    ----
    Underneath this smile lies everything
    All my hopes and anger, pride and shame
  • nailz100
    nailz100 Posts: 1,176
    I think she's talking about the feelings of this other girl....and maybe that you should warn her about this guy instead of leaving her to fend for herself against this wolf....who knows.
    Of course your feelings matter....I'm with you...my guess is one day this wolf will be come the sheep and be devoured.
    Only with our eyes closed can we truly see
  • Amaterasu
    Amaterasu Posts: 317
    Referring to your first post then the self posed
    question of stupidity only exemplifys your own
    victimization..
    I don't have time for this.
  • nailz100
    nailz100 Posts: 1,176
    What??....who's victimization is she supposed to write about if not her own?
    Only with our eyes closed can we truly see
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    If there is any rule in reading literature at all - and I'm a training literary critic and I can posit this with some qualification - then it's that you can never presume that the first person, self referential narrator of any piece of poetry or prose, though perhaps unnamed, is the actual poet or author. Rabindranath Tagore often wrote poems from a variety of vocal and focal perspectives, and it didn't make his work any the less 'true' for that. The above argument against the work doesn't reasonably respect the strength of the poem itself but presumes an authorial intention you can never know just by reading.

    "Criticism" in my book means an informed analytical reading of a text which is judicious to the work.
  • nailz100
    nailz100 Posts: 1,176
    I hear that fins....that could definately be true
    My point is (if it is indeed her own work)...then it is completely just, for her to write about how she feels and not have to worry about what other people think she should do. I'd be damned to let someone tell me how to write when I am spewing venom in every direction...my advice would be to cover your eyes. Kudos to you VR for writing whats on your mind, if indeed it is your mind that it is on...
    Only with our eyes closed can we truly see
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Originally posted by nailz100
    I hear that fins....that could definately be true
    My point is (if it is indeed her own work)...then it is completely just, for her to write about how she feels and not have to worry about what other people think she should do. I'd be damned to let someone tell me how to write when I am spewing venom in every direction...my advice would be to cover your eyes. Kudos to you VR for writing whats on your mind, if indeed it is your mind that it is on...

    Oh sure, we agree. If our works require feedback it should be constructive and never personal. :)
  • DopeBeastie
    DopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    Originally posted by Amaterasu
    Referring to your first post then the self posed
    question of stupidity only exemplifys your own
    victimization..
    I don't have time for this.

    as does the actual use of the word "victim"



    however...


    it's just a poem, right? lol....

    goofs :P
  • suede
    suede Posts: 247
    fuckin' a
  • violet ray
    violet ray Posts: 502
    this crappy bunch of words and you people are wondering if i "really" wrote it?

    i was trying to let my feelings out instead of holding them in for a change...
    gotta remember not to do that, it doesn't work.
    You ask me to enter
    But then You make me crawl
    And I can't be holding on
    To what You got
    When all You've got is hurt
    ----
    Underneath this smile lies everything
    All my hopes and anger, pride and shame
  • JDE-PJ
    JDE-PJ Posts: 721
    Originally posted by violet ray
    this crappy bunch of words and you people are wondering if i "really" wrote it?

    i was trying to let my feelings out instead of holding them in for a change...
    gotta remember not to do that, it doesn't work.

    nope you're wrong, letting them out is always the right thing, no matter what happens, if the people who read them don't get them, maybe the wrong people are in your life!


    oh and your words are not crappy.
    I know someday you will have a beautiful Life


    Jason
  • suede
    suede Posts: 247
    i'm soooo right ;)
  • violet ray
    violet ray Posts: 502
    Originally posted by JDE-PJ
    nope you're wrong, letting them out is always the right thing, no matter what happens, if the people who read them don't get them, maybe the wrong people are in your life!


    oh and your words are not crappy.

    its not the right thing to do
    it doesn't work
    it doesn't feel good
    and you end up being a total fucking asshole idiot
    You ask me to enter
    But then You make me crawl
    And I can't be holding on
    To what You got
    When all You've got is hurt
    ----
    Underneath this smile lies everything
    All my hopes and anger, pride and shame
  • JDE-PJ
    JDE-PJ Posts: 721
    Originally posted by violet ray
    its not the right thing to do
    it doesn't work
    it doesn't feel good
    and you end up being a total fucking asshole idiot


    nope, nope, nope.


    you're none of those things, and I am sorry you don't feel well, but again maybe you're writing your feelings out to the wrong people violet ray.
    I know someday you will have a beautiful Life


    Jason