Ophelia's Nun

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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Well, there was a note my mate, call him C__ for he really lived, left under his swinging feet for the guy who'd taken over his Sunday afternoon blues session and who'd pushed him out systematically and ruthlessly. I choose not to see it. But I knew what he'd want me to sing for him, putting the words to a song.

    Usually I write spontaneously here, but I'm going to include what I wrote at the time, channeling C__ against this other guy's greed. At the next Sunday after C__'s death, his wake, HIS blues jam, I sang this song onstage, with C__'s voice, with his soul, and on his black telecaster, directing in this other 'businessman's' face the message that the man who was really 'dead' was HIM, the guy "still there", the tone-deaf moneyman, and not C__, the musician, whose heart burned on:

    Sunday Man, how goes your plan?
    You said you were usurper, but in truth I stepped aside.
    How's your fun, now? Guess who won?
    When you recover from your stupor
    You'll have nothing of your pride.

    You can keep on demanding the limelight:
    You can keep on controlling the lead.
    You can make your encores after midnight:
    But I know you're dead.

    Sunday Man: Did you hear the one
    About silence, cunning, exile
    and the way to win a war?
    So, has it been in the space between
    my cameo appearances,
    the Joy you'd thought in store?

    When you took on the stage, did you feel loved?
    Did you see the ghosts out in the wings?
    Did you think that you once had the crowd moved?
    Or were they moved by other things?

    (Instrumental break)

    You can keep on demanding the limelight:
    You can keep on controlling the lead.
    You can make your encores after midnight
    But I know you're deaddeaddead.


    You know you fail at all that you try to do
    You know you fail at all that you try to do
    You know you fail at all that you try to do
    Yes, you know you fail at all that you try to do

    Sunday Man
    Sunday Man.....

    C__ would have sung that to the man. He passed six years ago today but his presence is alive and angry.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Georgey Boy, you're James the First,
    And The Patriot Act's your Basilikon Doron
    to an heir who'll die before accession,
    a would-be Henry the Ninth.
    The second son of the war will get your gift
    and call out that he's the elect of God
    above the Commons. And he'll be routed.
    Who knows who'll rule then. People of the land?
    Men in leather coats. In time, they'll fall, too,
    or just grow tired of killing to bureaucracy.
    Then your dynasty will be restored,
    The patriots modified.
    (Ah, they'll call that the Age of Reason!)
    But seriously,
    All I know is,
    that right now
    dissenters are having to equivocate
    to protect the holy in safe houses.

    Yes, that's enough of prophecies.
    Parallels suffice to tell a tale.
    So, in sum, then: the point. The point, by gum.
    James the First was ruler by default
    when the old line seemed to die of apathy.
    And he liked to speechify about the divine right of kings
    (kings crowned neither by secession nor consensus),
    But he really tore the blanket of his rhetoric,
    decrying tyrannical usurpers in foreign lands.

    So Georgie,
    Let's have this Doron, then,
    this Pax in proposal,
    Tomorrow's pretzel-wrapper.
    I'm almost starting to look forward,
    Intransitively.
    are you?
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Six thirty nine, and this forum's so quiet.
    There's only little old me,
    Left to write doggerel, trying to tie it
    with rhymes that work well and agree
    with basic aesthetics. Isn't it hushed
    on this forum? It's Saturday night!
    I could write something slowly, or something that's rushed:
    Turn out wonders, or turn out pure shite.

    I'll turn out the latter!
    In ways, it's much better!

    :D
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    HERR BRAUMER: Kaspar? Kaspar Hauser? Vatt are you doing viv datt toilet? Vatt are you doing viv zee flush, Kaspar?

    (pause)

    KASPAR: Venn..I..pee.....and venn I pull zee flush..... zee pee...zatt I can see.... goes away...

    HERR BRAUMER: Yessssss, Kaspar.... eento zee drain... outside...

    KASPAR: Soooo.... eeet must grow smaller....

    because...

    I cannot see eeet....

    HERR BRAUMER: No, Kaspar... eeet disappears....

    KASPAR: Yessss... eeet must... get....smaller.....

    HERR BRAUMER: NO!!! Eeeeet stays zee same size! Eeeet just deesappears...eeento ee drain....

    KASPAR: And zis drain ees very very small....

    HERR BRAUMER: NO!!! Eeeet eeezz outside!!!

    KASPAR: Yesss. And zee toilet eeez beeeger than the outside of zee house.

    HERR HAUSER: How zee fuck ees zee outside of zee house smaller than eeenside zee toilet, Kaspar?

    KASPAR: Because venn I am eenside, I turn all around me, and I only see ziss building.... everywhere. But venn I go outside, I valk around zee outside of zee house, and turn around, and I can see lots of theeengs. So, zee eeenside of zee house eees beeeger zan outside, and zee peee eeenside must get smaller when eeet eees outside. Eeeeet eees log-ic-al. Peee shreeeenks outside.

    HERR HAUSER: Errr... no... Kaspar, I theeenk ziss is going to take a leetle beet of work, just yet.

    KASPAR: Oh.

    :D
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    She doesn't want to be the black-clad, wan
    stereotype, wilting at the door,
    Mariana-like, wishing her man

    Would head back smiling, uniformed, from war.
    She won't pull down her shades: she wants the light
    To enter through her window, though he's dead.

    Because he's gone, she chose to wear her bright
    sun-yellow blouse today, the one he often said
    he liked the best on her. She steps outside

    upon the porch. She knows deep in her heart
    it isn't foolishness to think the wide
    Beam of golden heat his soul in part,

    Holding her once more. Crude sentiment
    Is not for her, but here, out from the shade,
    the summer sun suggests a firmament

    Of Afterness, and promises remade.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Pat curls, foetal, on the wet bench.
    Rainsoaked, he shivers in his pinstriped suit,
    The one he wore when he left Mary,
    and he splays the broad red hand
    that held the shovel every day for thirty years
    over his unshaven face, blacking out the sun.
    The sounds of footsteps echo from concrete to steel to wood,
    Through his shivering back. The knock of heels
    Becomes the boreen trot of Mother's mare
    to Corrigan's well, he nine years old, lazy flies
    buzzing heavily about the animal's rump
    and thudding into his own face. Plodding on the grassy track,
    hearing two empty buckets of tin, tied both ends
    on a rope across the creature's back slapping her flanks in rhythm,
    His eyes flit from the small fence, the main route in,
    to a short cut across the bog, head-posied,
    Butterfly blazing. Beautiful in a sungleam.
    He leads the animal on, hurrying in a happy canter,
    humming half broken airs of nameless reels,
    wild and laughing at his brilliant idea
    To find the spring without the path.

    A scream. Nostrils flare. Whinnying snorts and mudsplattering thuds.
    A leg caught, deep in wire. Brown eyes askant, teeth bared; A tearing,
    a rearing. Buckets hurled, crashing into a ditch.
    Pat looking around in the bog for Corrigan himself,
    sees heedlessly himself a lifetime ahead,
    An image conjured in firing iris:
    Going to Holyhead on the ferry with his uncle
    and arriving by train to a London fog,
    (a city of shiny routes to glory and tripwires),
    and seeing "No Irish" in the windows
    of suburban guesthouses, along entire streets
    When he and Uncle are weary and need to rest
    before scouring sites in the morning for ganging work.
    He might view a life to come:
    Knowing the five o' clock start in the lamplit chill,
    Cooking bacon off the shovel for breakfast,
    Learning to live in a curving spine, a breaking mind.
    Neither Irish nor English anymore: a pair of hands,
    a grunt, a spit of cliched insults to the new lad with the barrow,
    A barrow he'd himself overstacked with hardcore
    for the boy to slip on the plank
    running the way up the skip,
    as punishment for earnestness
    and an aversion to shortcuts.

    Losing his work through the gambling,
    spending the newfound long days with
    Mary in Anne's pub, puking the Guinness pure
    come evening with no food in the belly,
    Going hard on the bench with the cider
    with poor dead O' Ryan:
    his heart became his lacerated mare.
    He splays his hand over his face, blacking out the sun
    But hearing his life in the step of passing shoes,
    A step that stops then starts and dies away,
    A step he should know still
    as Mary's.
  • DopeBeastie
    DopeBeastie Posts: 2,513
    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    incline your face, your stretched-out mouth again
    into the dreampool shoulder-hollow of
    her shallow-rising body; now, begin
    to coax new honey words, lent from above,
    into the godland of a woman’s love

    just caught this one...

    i like it :)
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Thank you, Pasta! :)
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Don't ask me why, but I am more moved by frogs on drains than anything else tonight....

    A big bulbous throat, blub-bubbling air
    Fingers sheathed, glazing in rubbery green
    hind legs paired, heart shaped in arching; a stare
    of lidless black eyes that a long tongue licks clean:

    It's the frogster.
    Until it jumped up, I had thought it a leaf.
    It's the frogster.
    It sat on the gutter then popped underneath.
    Hey there frogster!
    Tell me this fact as you vacate the scene:
    Tell me frogster!
    How'd you keep out of view when you're ugly as sin?

    Only jokin' tharr,
    Beautiful froggy.
    Yoooo loveable creatureeeee yoooooooooo.

    ;)
  • anOmis
    anOmis Posts: 223
    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    Well, there was a note my mate, call him C__ for he really lived, left under his swinging feet for the guy who'd taken over his Sunday afternoon blues session and who'd pushed him out systematically and ruthlessly. I choose not to see it. But I knew what he'd want me to sing for him, putting the words to a song.

    Usually I write spontaneously here, but I'm going to include what I wrote at the time, channeling C__ against this other guy's greed. At the next Sunday after C__'s death, his wake, HIS blues jam, I sang this song onstage, with C__'s voice, with his soul, and on his black telecaster, directing in this other 'businessman's' face the message that the man who was really 'dead' was HIM, the guy "still there", the tone-deaf moneyman, and not C__, the musician, whose heart burned on:

    Sunday Man, how goes your plan?
    You said you were usurper, but in truth I stepped aside.
    How's your fun, now? Guess who won?
    When you recover from your stupor
    You'll have nothing of your pride.

    You can keep on demanding the limelight:
    You can keep on controlling the lead.
    You can make your encores after midnight:
    But I know you're dead.

    Sunday Man: Did you hear the one
    About silence, cunning, exile
    and the way to win a war?
    So, has it been in the space between
    my cameo appearances,
    the Joy you'd thought in store?

    When you took on the stage, did you feel loved?
    Did you see the ghosts out in the wings?
    Did you think that you once had the crowd moved?
    Or were they moved by other things?

    (Instrumental break)

    You can keep on demanding the limelight:
    You can keep on controlling the lead.
    You can make your encores after midnight
    But I know you're deaddeaddead.


    You know you fail at all that you try to do
    You know you fail at all that you try to do
    You know you fail at all that you try to do
    Yes, you know you fail at all that you try to do

    Sunday Man
    Sunday Man.....

    C__ would have sung that to the man. He passed six years ago today but his presence is alive and angry.


    FC, you are a genious!!!

    i would love to HEAR you sometime..

    like yer music..

    coz yer words are awsume
    ~~dont mind yer make up, just make up yer mind~~

    ~~its better to be hated for who you are than be loved for who you are not~~

    F.ZAPPA
  • anOmis
    anOmis Posts: 223
    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    Pat curls, foetal, on the wet bench.
    Rainsoaked, he shivers in his pinstriped suit,
    The one he wore when he left Mary,
    and he splays the broad red hand
    that held the shovel every day for thirty years
    over his unshaven face, blacking out the sun.
    The sounds of footsteps echo from concrete to steel to wood,
    Through his shivering back. The knock of heels
    Becomes the boreen trot of Mother's mare
    to Corrigan's well, he nine years old, lazy flies
    buzzing heavily about the animal's rump
    and thudding into his own face. Plodding on the grassy track,
    hearing two empty buckets of tin, tied both ends
    on a rope across the creature's back slapping her flanks in rhythm,
    His eyes flit from the small fence, the main route in,
    to a short cut across the bog, head-posied,
    Butterfly blazing. Beautiful in a sungleam.
    He leads the animal on, hurrying in a happy canter,
    humming half broken airs of nameless reels,
    wild and laughing at his brilliant idea
    To find the spring without the path.

    A scream. Nostrils flare. Whinnying snorts and mudsplattering thuds.
    A leg caught, deep in wire. Brown eyes askant, teeth bared; A tearing,
    a rearing. Buckets hurled, crashing into a ditch.
    Pat looking around in the bog for Corrigan himself,
    sees heedlessly himself a lifetime ahead,
    An image conjured in firing iris:
    Going to Holyhead on the ferry with his uncle
    and arriving by train to a London fog,
    (a city of shiny routes to glory and tripwires),
    and seeing "No Irish" in the windows
    of suburban guesthouses, along entire streets
    When he and Uncle are weary and need to rest
    before scouring sites in the morning for ganging work.
    He might view a life to come:
    Knowing the five o' clock start in the lamplit chill,
    Cooking bacon off the shovel for breakfast,
    Learning to live in a curving spine, a breaking mind.
    Neither Irish nor English anymore: a pair of hands,
    a grunt, a spit of cliched insults to the new lad with the barrow,
    A barrow he'd himself overstacked with hardcore
    for the boy to slip on the plank
    running the way up the skip,
    as punishment for earnestness
    and an aversion to shortcuts.

    Losing his work through the gambling,
    spending the newfound long days with
    Mary in Anne's pub, puking the Guinness pure
    come evening with no food in the belly,
    Going hard on the bench with the cider
    with poor dead O' Ryan:
    his heart became his lacerated mare.
    He splays his hand over his face, blacking out the sun
    But hearing his life in the step of passing shoes,
    A step that stops then starts and dies away,
    A step he should know still
    as Mary's.

    another masterpiece
    i could relate w/some parts of it!!
    ~~dont mind yer make up, just make up yer mind~~

    ~~its better to be hated for who you are than be loved for who you are not~~

    F.ZAPPA
  • anOmis
    anOmis Posts: 223
    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    She doesn't want to be the black-clad, wan
    stereotype, wilting at the door,
    Mariana-like, wishing her man

    Would head back smiling, uniformed, from war.
    She won't pull down her shades: she wants the light
    To enter through her window, though he's dead.

    Because he's gone, she chose to wear her bright
    sun-yellow blouse today, the one he often said
    he liked the best on her. She steps outside

    upon the porch. She knows deep in her heart
    it isn't foolishness to think the wide
    Beam of golden heat his soul in part,

    Holding her once more. Crude sentiment
    Is not for her, but here, out from the shade,
    the summer sun suggests a firmament

    Of Afterness, and promises remade.


    *sits on her ass reading the poem again*
    captured my breath...
    ~~dont mind yer make up, just make up yer mind~~

    ~~its better to be hated for who you are than be loved for who you are not~~

    F.ZAPPA
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Hypertext purports to end the long
    Monopoly print-editors have had
    in choosing what is "right" or what is "wrong"
    in early versions that a novel's had.
    The argument is this: An editor
    Will take a well-known book and look, perhaps
    to scrutinise say three, or maybe four
    editions of the novel, then collapse
    their variants, intending to produce
    a "ideal text." But surely this rewrites
    A work that's truly fluid and more loose
    than school editions show? This thought invites
    the question: If you showed us, side by side,
    online, all variants, and we applied

    our own approach to reading, to prepare
    our text that seems definitive, from those
    facsimilies presented there, are we
    empowered in that we "were those who chose
    their ideal version of the text, not some
    Professor's?" Well, I have a doubt
    about this, really. See, you take a tome
    and open it, and there, spotted about
    each page are flies. Yes, flies. Now, take your book
    and place it underneath a photo lens
    to make your site- facsimile. And look
    at what you've photographed. The curled and dense
    imprint of a small and flattened fly
    Becomes a comma to the untrained eye.

    So, what you're analysing might mislead
    your view. A punctuation stroke
    inserted in the right place could succeed
    in managing, in syntax, to evoke
    a concept disparate from what might be
    its meaning if that mark were just left out.
    And if the mark's a fly-splat, you will see
    a meaning in the text that's there, without
    Due reference to that work's history.
    So, I'll half-conclude that hypertext
    Can't really but select and falsify
    its evidence. But still, I'm quite perplexed.
    How can we give the readers, us, the wide
    Breadth of thought these variants provide?
  • olderman
    olderman Posts: 1,765
    the writer was deemed to be a genious when the meaning of the work was misinterpreted by the business editor, whose own life was made possible by a bad decision his mother had made..(indeed, she had chosen to have a child with a man who fooled her into thinking that he had a future, when he was no more than a habitual liar and had a horrible secret habit which dried the funds in the college savings account) .. but back to the work.. the stain of the fly caught the editor's eye and changed the meaning of the text .. an advance was made and the editor lost his job when the book did not move and he too succumbed to the horrible habit that was his legacy....
    Down the street you can hear her scream youre a disgrace
    As she slams the door in his drunken face
    And now he stands outside
    And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
    He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
    What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
    Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
    And his tears fall and burn the garden green
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Of course, one of the ironies of writing Internet poetry is that one can continue to edit one's posts. So, in the pursuit of a definitive final version of a piece of work, all previous versions get lost, unless another poster reproduces an earlier variant as a "quotation" in a post or, going back to the principles of hard copy, prints it off!

    And concerning misinterpretation: there's a famous incident where a literary critic wrote an enthusiastic treatise on the brilliance of the phrase "soiled fish" in a book of Melville's. The phrase was a printer's error: It should have read "coiled fish".

    ;)
  • olderman
    olderman Posts: 1,765
    Originally posted by FinsburyParkCarrots
    Of course, one of the ironies of writing Internet poetry is that one can continue to edit one's posts. So, in the pursuit of a definitive final version of a piece of work, all previous versions get lost, unless another poster reproduces an earlier variant as a "quotation" in a post or, going back to the principles of hard copy, prints it off!

    but the only time you will get a fly stain is when you kill a fly on your screen and decide not to clean it off..
    Down the street you can hear her scream youre a disgrace
    As she slams the door in his drunken face
    And now he stands outside
    And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
    He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
    What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
    Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
    And his tears fall and burn the garden green
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Originally posted by olderman
    but the only time you will get a fly stain is when you kill a fly on your screen and decide not to clean it off..

    The two copies of Shakespeare's 1623 Folio that I've seen are practically decorated with them. It seems that Renaissance readers used Shakespeare for everyday consultation, but only in anticipation of fly spray.

    :D
  • Yellow
    Yellow Posts: 699
    i put up a poem called nigh end travesty a ways back
    lost it
    it got deleted...
    i found the hand-write
    and had to re-write the whole thing to make it presentable again...


    very interesting way to mind one's p's and q's...


    :D
    It's all yellow.


  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I like that story, Yellow! :D
  • Yellow
    Yellow Posts: 699
    well, it applies, mr. carrots :):):)


    *sigh*


    i can't believe mods deleted THAT one


    lol :)
    It's all yellow.